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To want a little snake?

112 replies

CarbyDiem · 30/11/2017 20:18

I met one last week , a python, and fell in love. She was just lovely. And now I want one.

Where do I start? Where can I learn more? Where does one purchase a snake?

I have a name lined up ready.

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mustbemad17 · 30/11/2017 22:16

Oh i did wonder Cru - it was the 'warming & braining' that got me; surely a live mouse would already be warm 😂

My python won't feed outside of his viv. Little shit - in his viv he feeds perfectly. Gave up on that one quickly

elfonshelf · 30/11/2017 22:17

Live feeding is illegal in the UK and with royals you are risking severe injury to the snake if they don't eat the rodent straight away.

Braining is where you use a knife or kitchen scissors to cut open the rodents head and expose the brain in the hopes of making said rodent appear extra delicious to your non-eating snake. Has never worked for me Sad

I have had the joyous experience of getting meds into a snake which meant injecting them into the dead mouse and then feeding mouse to snake. Was really not very easy or pleasant.

CruCru · 30/11/2017 22:19

Ah, I see. Thank you.

Tinselistacky · 30/11/2017 22:19

My older ds had a huge snake that would only feed inside a little basket put inside the viv at feed times. Shy lad!
Little snake is happy for all 4 dc to be noses pressed against the glass. Gory little feckers!!

mustbemad17 · 30/11/2017 22:20

I don't get why anybody would want to feed live anyway, not worth the risk in a domestic bred snake surely!

I am so glad I haven't had to do that 😱 My royal did once squeeze a chick so hard it's head fell off...that was, interesting, to watch. He knew something was amiss too cos he went back for the head 🤢

CarbyDiem · 30/11/2017 22:22

I’m fairly used to mouse brains and guts. Ex-cat was a hunter who liked to share.
I have discovered a fairlylocal reptile rescue. I think i might give them a ring at some point.

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Tinselistacky · 30/11/2017 22:23

In the 70's my df had 2 beasty huge snakes that escaped into the flat downstairs regularly, poor woman would scream loud and my df knew where to find them!! He also bred rats to feed them. Acceptable back in the day apparently. Yuck.

Wolfiefan · 30/11/2017 22:24

They may be able to tell you about local vets etc. good source of info. I wonder if they would look after a snake whilst you were on holiday for a donation to the rescue?!

mustbemad17 · 30/11/2017 22:24

I know someone who breeds rats & mice to feed his (huge) snake collection. Not something I would be able to do handle i'm afraid

mustbemad17 · 30/11/2017 22:25

If not the rescue may have fosters willing to do holiday cover 🙂 A lady I know through dog rescue has recently started taking on snakes & tarantulas (bleeeurgh) for rescues until decent homes can be found

RoseWhiteTips · 30/11/2017 22:30

I could not under any circumstances enter a house with a snake in it - no matter what the size.

iklboo · 30/11/2017 22:35

Fluffy is luffly

Incitatus · 30/11/2017 22:35

This is my snake. He’s a royal python and they remain small. He’s lovely and very easy to handle. They’re quite timid and you can handle them easily which helps them get used to you.

Mine has a heat mat and has a mouse once a week. I make his container interesting with lots of places to hide etc. He’ll move into a vivarium once he’s bigger. I take him out into the garden during the summer so he can see the outside world a bit.

I also have two garter snakes who are very active and quite action packed. They’re too fast and wriggly to handle much, but they like to explore their viv all the time and I change things around for them so they don’t become bored.

Snakes are relatively easy to keep. They’re silent and don’t make smells or mess. You need to research what they need and what type of housing is best for them.

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Incitatus · 30/11/2017 22:41

This is one of my garters. Had him since 2012.

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CarbyDiem · 30/11/2017 22:41

Icitatus. He/she is lovely (as is Fluffy).
I shall ponder. No quick daft decisions.

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MyWhatICallNameChange · 30/11/2017 22:49

Oh my gosh, that garter snake has the cutest little snake face ever!

I met some snakes a couple of weeks ago and it's the first time I've handled them for any length of time and they are lovely. I totally fell in love! Which pleased my children greatly as they've been asking for a snake for a while.

We're not ready at the moment though, as adorable as they are.

Incitatus · 30/11/2017 22:50

If you would like a more interactive pet then look at bearded dragons as well.

IHeartKingThistle · 30/11/2017 22:58

Severus Snake, surely? Grin

MyWhatICallNameChange · 30/11/2017 23:02

IHeart, that's the name my kids have chosen should we get a snake! Grin

Lollyb86 · 30/11/2017 23:04

I have two snakes a 5ft corn and a 2ft royal python they are lovely and very low maintenance

Severide08 · 30/11/2017 23:59

I have a Royal Python too .I just find snakes fascinating .Royals can be terrors at feeding .Mine is pretty good but he does have his moments when he decides not for me thanks .My DC's handle him with no problem at all .Elfonshelf me to i find them amazing creatures.One thing i have done is insure my Royal because if he did become ,hopefully never they have to go to specialist vet and you would be looking at a serious bill.I know they are not everyones cup of tea but i think they are fascinating.

SisyphusHadItEasy · 01/12/2017 00:13

I have a royal python. She is a rescue, and came to us in rough shape.

Do your research, and if you are certain you can care for it properly, get a captive bred one.

Prepare for a long term commitment, they don't have the life span of a hamster...

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SisyphusHadItEasy · 01/12/2017 00:22

Note... Not all royal pythons are small. Natasha is a big girl - she is about 4 kilos and over 1.5 metres long.

These pictures are from when she joined us, in the middle of a bad shed.

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GingerNutMarmite · 01/12/2017 02:04

Hey OP

A few bits of advice for you, hope it helps and I don't waffle too much... It’s more practical advice for the setup than anything. For buying the snake it depends where you are really. Crystal Palace Reptiles/Snakes and Adders/Coast to Coast Exotics/ Evolution Reptiles and loads more (that I can’t remember) are well known.

Have a look online for good breeders/rescues. Shops will always be much pricier.

Reptile Forums UK has always been a gold mine for me for advice and classifieds. In terms of posts it’s much less active now but you can still search the old threads for advice (once you figure out the annoying search function). There are plenty of detailed care sheets on there on the snake section for loads of species.

Royal pythons are famously very tame but can have feeding issues. The key is to monitor their weight regularly. Most start feeding again and it's rare for them to lose any serious weight even after several months. Saying that, most are good feeders.

Corn snakes have great temperaments too and will often feed more reliably than royals. They are lovely and active snakes.

King snakes tend to feed very well and are handleable but can be feisty, especially when young. They are nicknamed the dustbins of the snake world for their love of food.

As a good general rule female snakes are larger than males, in both girth and length Wink

Shopping wise:
Swell reptiles are probably the best and cheapest online shop for equipment.

What you would need to buy for a ‘standard’ set up:

Vivarium - most brands are similar in design and quality. For adult corns/kings/royals a 4ft x 2ft x 2ft is the usual recommended size but the bigger the better!

Heater- this can be confusing at first. Basically you need a heater and a thermostat to control the heater. There are three standard options:

1.	Heat mat and mat thermostat - cheapest option and works well. Heat mat should be as long as around 30-40% of the length of vivarium. Easiest option for newbie owners!

2.	Ceramic heat bulb with a pulse proportional thermostat. Ceramic bulbs don't give out light but give out a better all round heat. They are normally the most expensive option. 

3.	Basking heat bulb with dimming thermostat. Basking bulbs will provide a basking spot but also light up the enclosure. Middle cheapy option. 

The thermostat is a really important piece of kit to buy, and is left out of some starter kits because the price puts people off. The thermostat controls the heater and prevents it from overheating the enclosure. Without the thermostat the heater can get too hot and could burn the snake or potentially start setting things on fire.

Heat bulb guard - if using a ceramic or basking heat bulb (covers the bulb with a metal cage and screws into the ceiling of the vivarium)- some snakes will wrap themselves around the bulb and burn. Exotic vet bills are horrendous Shock

Digital thermometers x 2 (one at hot end of vivarium and one at cold end) I get mine from amazon- much cheaper then reptile shops. Get a digital hygrometer too. Just check the reviews. Don’t buy the stick on or round analogue dial thermometers/hygrometers- they are shite.

Substrate- aspen is commonly used, cheap and easy to clean. Make it deep enough in the viv for the snake to burrow.

Couple of hides - can be reptile hides, tubs, things to hide under/sleep in. At least one on cold end and one on hot end.

Fake leaves and logs/decor - lots so snake can hide. Also a nice big water bowl.

Don’t buy heat rocks - really bad

Hope it helps, sorry to ramble. Can’t sleep, drank too much wine!

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