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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To be concerned about her parenting?

46 replies

Bambamber · 19/11/2017 18:52

Bear with me, it will be long

I have an acquaintance on Facebook that I haven't spoken to in years, who has recently had a baby and I'm concerned for her and the baby from the things she posts. The baby is less than 6 weeks old and she's freely admits she doesn't tend to the baby until the baby is purple from holding it's breath from screaming, Because she doesn't want baby to become clingy or be too dependent on her being there.

As a mother, this goes against every mothering instinct I have and saddens me greatly. Now I fully understand and accept that everyone makes different parenting choices, and there often isn't a right answer. One of those choices is not going to a baby as soon as they cry, and normally I wouldn't bat an eyelid as it's not my child, not my choice. But surely leaving a baby that young util they're holding their breath isn't healthy? I genuinely don't know, I'm literally at the opposite end of parenting choices. People keep commenting saying how that's the right thing to do, but surely it isn't working if the mum is obviously struggling so much (going by what she posts). She seems to think that a baby that young shouldn't be waking much at night, and leaving the baby to scream until it's holding it's breath is the way to solve this.

I probably sound like I'm being judgmental, and if I'm honest I am a little bit. But People could also easily judge my parenting as pandering too much, But I truly believe you can't spoil a baby with love. But I really want to message her and point her in the direction of some resources about things like the 4th trimester just to let her know that there are other things to try, and giving your baby a cuddle isn't going to be damaging to them. I don't want to tell her she's wrong, as well I'm no expert. But maybe open her up to other options. Obviously don't want to try convert her parenting style to mine, But there's lots of middle ground that may help her. But my husband tells me to butt out and not say anything.

I'm torn. I have never had a baby that has been difficult to settle. I only have one child who is still super young. So maybe I'm wrong and she is doing what's best for her baby, I really don't know. But I do know how annoying it is when people think they know best for their child. But I am genuinely concerned for her and the baby.

So would I be unreasonable to message with some word of support and then point her in the direction of some resources that may be of some help. And to reiterate, I don't think she should parent in the same way as me as I have no doubt I'm getting lots of things wrong. But just to open her up to other options that

That was longer than I expected, well done if you made it through my ramblings!

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CauliflowerSqueeze · 19/11/2017 18:53

I would leave it to her closer friends to comment I think.

puglife15 · 19/11/2017 18:55

That's really hard, YANBU to be concerned, maybe message her asking how she's getting on? Talk about how hard you found it?

The fact she's posting about it suggests it feels wrong and she wants reassurance.

You could if you think she'd be open to it down the line share something with her about attachment theory and that actually babies who are well attended to end up being MORE secure in the long run. While ackowledging it can be really hard to attend to a little baby's every need.

Bambamber · 19/11/2017 19:06

@cauliflowersqueeze that's what my husband said, as she is much more likely to kindly to it if it comes from someone closer to her

@puglife15 that was my thoughts as well. To me it sounds like she's crying out for help as she has mentioned difficulties with her own mental health more than once now, so just want to reach out and try and help her and give her and her baby a great big hug

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Witsender · 19/11/2017 19:15

I don't know what I would do about it, but I would feel the same.

Changerofname987654321 · 19/11/2017 19:16

I would contact NSPCC for advice. That is there job.

ColinCreevy · 19/11/2017 19:17

I had to stop reading after the first paragraph Sad I'm not sure what you can do but yanbu to feel upset by it.

Changerofname987654321 · 19/11/2017 19:18

I have PMed you.

dontquotemeondailymail · 19/11/2017 19:21

Could she be exaggerating things for Facebook? Maybe she is leaving the baby to self soothe a little but perhaps just not going as far as she makes out.

But anyways, I agree that if she’s only an acquaintance, she may not take kindly to advice, even if it’s given with the best intentions.

RatRolyPoly · 19/11/2017 19:27

Honestly if you haven't spoken to her in years you've got nothing to lose! And then if she IS open to ideas and would be grateful for a bit of proactive support then everyone wins. And if she isn't? One less person on your Facebook feed I guess.

I reckon eckonessage her. Something about how you found those early days super tough and in retrospect you would have loved it if someone had thrown a couple of ideas your way... even if you didn't and you wouldn't!

RatRolyPoly · 19/11/2017 19:28

"i reckon I would message her", is what that was MEANT to say!

Bubblebubblepop · 19/11/2017 19:32

Tbh I think your massively overthinking the whole situation. What could a practical stranger do anyway? She's hardly going to listen to your advice, unless she's an utter idiot she knows what she's doing is unusual.

Tbh I'm finding it really hard to imagine that a 6 week old would be holding its breath from crying so I wonder how accurate her posts are anyway.

One thing I notice is some people take some kind of pleasure in being through of as strict and sometimes exaggerate how harsh they are

Hmmalittlefishy · 19/11/2017 19:32

Do you know any of her closer friends? Even of just through Facebook? Could you message them to say you are worried how she is feeling and as you aren't physically close do they know if all is OK?

I wouldn't mention parenting styles - it's very tricky. I have a Facebook friend who idolises 'she who must not be named on mumsnet' and I often have to sit on my hands not to comment

RebootYourEngine · 19/11/2017 19:34

This sounds awful. On the odd occassion ds cried like that he would struggle to feed and would choke because he couldnt settle.

I think that it is cruel leaving the child to get like that on purpose.

Nonibaloni · 19/11/2017 19:34

Might not be appropriate but can you visit her? Even if you haven’t seen her in years a new baby can be a good excuse. Easier to judge in person and easier to bring up nighttime’s etc. Loads of mothers who visited me and ds said “ooh I wonder if this works on him it worked on mine” and proceeded to sign, sway or stroke. It gave me more ideas.
Might help you feel more able to make a decision about whether they need help or not.

ProseccoMamam · 19/11/2017 19:36

YABU for judging someone’s parenting from a social media platform.

I also really really really really really doubt someone is gloating on Facebook about how their baby is purple in the face and they’re sat having a cuppa.

I have left my kids to cry. There was nothing I could do, I couldn’t settle them in any way shape or form. And I took 5 minutes to re charge myself before I went and dealt with them. A passer by could have also thought I was a bad mum. Turns out my youngest had stomach issues. There was nothing I could have done.

If her parenting style is bothering you so much then delete her. But leave it to her REAL friends and family to offer advice - IF she asks for it. It really is none of your business at all and doesn’t need a thread. With a screaming baby I’m guessing the mum in question is very tired and exhausted. She doesn’t need a long lost acquaintance sending her numerous links to read up on being a better mum. It’s something she will work out herself and you shouldn’t be judging her so much. You’ve no idea what goes on behind closed doors.

Bubblebubblepop · 19/11/2017 19:37

Couldnt agree more with proseccomadam above

BendydickCuminsnatch · 19/11/2017 19:38

That has really upset me actually (I do have a 2 week old so maybe OTT). I don't think that sounds very natural. YANBU to be concerned.

Motherducksaidquackquackquack · 19/11/2017 19:43

Screen shot all those messages and contact a relevant agency, ull kick urself if u dnt. The mother clearly needs advice

calamityjam · 19/11/2017 19:44

Leave her well alone. She may actually be doing the best thing for her and her baby. Some babies will cry regardless of what you do to placate them. If she has fed, changed and left her baby warm, safe and comfortable as possible, he may still be crying, because some do. She may at this point be at the end of her tether. The best thing she can do is take time out. Even 10 mins to have a coffee and gather her thoughts. This is always better than losing her rag.

RatRolyPoly · 19/11/2017 19:45

Of course we're all different and everyone has their ways, but I do sometimes wonder why people insist on leaving things to someone's "real friends" in situations like these. Sometimes when you think someone's struggling, instead of being mistaken sometimes you're right and they actually are!

If you feel it's the right thing why leave it for someone else, thinking "not my business"? Someone who doesn't need help will undoubtedly give you short shrift if you're overstepping, but every now and then it's worth it when someone really did need a candid chat. Sometimes this is how "real friends" are made IMO.

RatRolyPoly · 19/11/2017 19:46

I should add I'm not saying I think this person is doing anything wrong at all in their parenting, just that the OP has expressed a gut instinct that in fact they're in need of support.

cuttedupmypear · 19/11/2017 19:49

ColinCreevy I agree. Very upsetting. Poor baby. Hope OP gets some good advice on what to do here

ChinaRose · 19/11/2017 19:50

Screen shot and report. The baby can choke. That baby needs feeding and comfort!

Stickaforkinimdone · 19/11/2017 19:52

Totally with @ProseccoMamam

What this mum needs, like all of us, is real life support from her real friends. It takes some people longer than others to find their feet with the whole parenting thing and she needs time to find her way

What she doesn’t need is the judgement of someone else who she hardly knows with a vastly opposite parenting style and expressed ‘concern’

Leave well alone

kootoo123 · 19/11/2017 19:57

I remember a programme a good few yeara ago where they tested these methods letting baby cry or going to them. Like everything it was clear somewhere inbetween works best and rely on instinct to choose which was required. Extremes of anything never work out.