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To wonder how people manage to afford to have a baby without a partner?

57 replies

redandgreenfern · 19/11/2017 13:12

I know benefits help those on a low income, but if you have a moderate income plus mortgage, childcare and other bills, it doesn't seem possible? Has anybody actually managed it?

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TheQueenOfWands · 19/11/2017 13:13
Biscuit
redandgreenfern · 19/11/2017 13:14

I don't understand why the biscuit?

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Myheartbelongsto · 19/11/2017 13:15

I have three and an 1800 euro mortgage.

It can be done.

CoconutGal · 19/11/2017 13:16

I bought DD up on my own for the first 5yrs of her life. It was really hard. I was working part time, receiving benefits, in rented accommodation & felt increasingly like I wasn’t setting a very good example for my DD. When I met my now DH, things did change & I have to admit I do feel (financially) more relaxed.

I have a huge huge amount of respect for all the mums & even dads who have to do it all on their own. There are good days & dark days.

JellyFarts06 · 19/11/2017 13:17

Friends/family helping with childcare?
Life insurance payout?
Savings?
A bigger income than you think they have?
Credit card debt?
Extra hours at work?
Working around school hours so they don't need childcare?
Took me about a minute to come up with that list. Is it really that difficult OP?

redandgreenfern · 19/11/2017 13:18

Do you earn quite a lot, Myheart? I suppose you must for the mortgage.

I earn approximately £1900 after tax, pension, NI and so on.

Mortgage is £700. Childcare is probably around £1000 a month for a full time place, leaving £50 a week for council tax, electricity, phone, food, petrol, not even counting any emergencies.

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Awwlookatmybabyspider · 19/11/2017 13:18

I did and managed reasonably well.
Although I had good strong supportive family unit who helped with childcare etc
I don't know what I'd done without them. If I'm honest.
So I'm not really comparable to a lone parent who has no family.
I think you got the biscuit because you assumed all single parents are on benefits. That's not the case, plus there are just as many married women who don't work.

redandgreenfern · 19/11/2017 13:19

Oh, is that why the biscuit? I was asking about me, not just being nosy.

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JellyFarts06 · 19/11/2017 13:20

You may have got much more helpful responses if you'd asked about your own situation rather than a broad question that could rightly be seen as judgemental or goady.

redandgreenfern · 19/11/2017 13:21

To rephrase then, I would love to have a child. I don't understand how I would manage this financially but other people seem to.

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IHaventStoppedCravingYet · 19/11/2017 13:22

I had a reasonable job, savings and a monthly rent I could afford. Met DH and moved in together when DS was one and I went back to FT work after mat leave. I wouldn’t have been able to afford his nursery fees plus all the other bills on my own though so would have to had to taken a different approach if I had still been on my own at that stage.

LorelaiVictoriaGilmore · 19/11/2017 14:07

I guess I could manage it in theory but I'm a good earner and the idea of mortgage plus childcare costs is overwhelming. In all honesty, I think I'd end up back home with my parents so I would have free childcare.

Grimbles · 19/11/2017 14:09

You'd be able to claim benefits too op...

Rebeccaslicker · 19/11/2017 14:14

I won't comment financially because not sure if genuine or GF, but what I will say is that having DC has given me the most enormous amount of respect for single parents. Even one NT well behaved child is hard work when you have a partner to split it with - all my hats off to those who cope or have coped by themselves.

Ted27 · 19/11/2017 14:21

I'm an adoptive single mum. I adopted a school age child so didnt have so much childcare to worry about. I do get some benefits for him because he has disabilities so I work part time at the moment.
But I changed jobs to a higher paid one so I could afford the drop in salary
And I don't run a car

formerbabe · 19/11/2017 14:25

Some single people are rich.

Some couples are poor.

Some single mums will be in high paid employment.

Some single mums are on benefits.

Is this really beyond your comprehension?

NapQueen · 19/11/2017 14:27

As a lone parent you could potnentially get 70% of your childcare costs back in working tax credit etc.

itsbetterthanabox · 19/11/2017 14:30

You could move somewhere with a smaller mortgage.
Childcare can be cheaper if you look around.
The father should be paying maintenance if you are the RP.

Mamabear3017 · 19/11/2017 14:55

My ex left when I was pregnant.....I kind of didn't have a choice

Dalesgirl16 · 19/11/2017 14:56

Please can someone tell me what the biscuit means??

LRDtheFeministDragon · 19/11/2017 15:15

I know a few people who are single parents by choice. One works in such a way that she doesn't need much childcare (she partly works from home, and in the evenings when her daughter is asleep). Another is quite well off, but also has the kind of job that can be quite flexible. A third has a lot of help from her mother, but this was part of the arrangement before she began trying, because her mum was very much behind her decision.

It's not that uncommon.

OverlyYappy · 19/11/2017 15:24

dale

Biscuit = no comment (on that shit)

SilverdaleGlen · 19/11/2017 15:28

My ex doesn't support me financially and I have 3 under 8.

Decent job, high childcare bills and debts I was left with. I have to work long hours and lots of travel though good family support to help pick ups when 6pm childcare cut off doesn't work!

It can be done but what's harder than the financial stress is the pressure of never switching off.

It wasn't supposed to be done alone but even planning in a stable relationship can go wrong! They are worth it though and as school/30hrs free etc kicks in it gets easier.

Furgggggg12 · 19/11/2017 15:30

I work. Not on benefits or a low income but high five for stereotyping!

unlimiteddilutingjuice · 19/11/2017 15:34

OP: I think you need to get onto an online benefits calculator and just have a mess about with different circumstances.
How much will you be entitled to on maternity leave?
How much in full time work?
How much in part time work?
How much when your kid starts school and childcare costs drop?
You can put in estimated amounts for childcare.
Work out you total disposable income for each scenario (wages plus benefits minus childcare) and remember to factor in the costs of work (travel, clothes and meals)
This should give you an idea of what you can expect financially and whether you should be aiming to return to work full or part time.
If it still looks impossible maybe look into your mortgage. Can you remortgage over a longer period to reduce monthly expenditure? Would the bank allow you a year or so off payments and add the missed payments onto the capital?
Then I guess consider what you can save now to put aside for the early years
As PP's have said, lots of people do have kids in your situation and they manage so there will be a way