To wish there was some sort of regulation to prevent idiots like this having pets?

[BatteredBreadedOrSouthernFried]

At the end of August a woman posted in a local group I am in on FB asking for advice. She wanted a dog but her husband didn’t. She had got one a year ago but her DH rehomed it 3 months later. She was advised not to risk it happening again, consider fostering, borrow my dog etc. 3 weeks later she got a puppy. That was 8 weeks ago. I’ve just seen an ad on local FB selling page. She is selling the pup for £300 because it licks her daughter and jumps up.

This boils my piss. The woman is thick as champ. There was no getting through to her on her post asking for advice. I have no doubt in my mind she will have another pup in less than a year and have it for sale not long after.

There should be some sort of regulation to prevent people being able to buy dogs willy nilly and shunt them from pillar to post because they haven’t the foggiest idea what raising a dog involves.

Ha. Mine is certainly "special"!
I am in regular contact with her breeder (who only breeds when she's after the next generation of her line.) We have meet ups with puppy siblings too.
Regular vet checks are good. I had a home check too. Would be happy to have to declare training etc too. I do think if people were made to stop and consider the time and money commitment of a pet some wouldn't bother. Grooming, vet fees, training, exercise (yes even when it's raining!)

There wouldn't be a puppy farmer in the land and rescues could pretty much all close. Bloody ace!

Wolfiefan is right, but she's done her homework and taken on the responsibility. You cant train an adult dog like you can a puppy, and you cant neuter all dogs.

The problem is not responsible, knowledgeable owners. Its people who buy animals with no clue about what they've bought or how to look after them. Who buy puppy farmed animals, and who treat them as disposable commodities.

I live in an inner city area and the local pet shop was recently selling a Mynah bird, this in an area where people cant afford to buy fruit for their kids or heat their homes!

I grew up in the same street as an Irish Wolfhound owner.

It was the size of a small horse!

The owner used to put it in the back of the biggest car I'd ever seen (Volvo) and take it to a massive open space twice a day.

Most of his days were spent either with the dog or earning money for the dog.

I remember thinking back then that dogs required more care and attention than I was prepared to give.

You're not wrong. I don't work. My days from 6:30-11 pretty much revolve around the dog!
She's expensive.
She's labour intensive. (Chewing her foot at the moment!)
She makes a bloody mess! Moulting ATM.
She's rather huge!
I love her to bits. But did spend about 2 years trying to talk myself out of it. Could I really take on and train such a massive hound?
Too many people choose a dog they like the look of and don't think!
Husky. When are you going to run it?
Collie. How are you going to keep its brain occupied?
Makes me fume!

I have a gorgeous dog, he's extremely large (the "large" cages, collars and harnesses don't fit him and he can very easily tower over me on his hind legs. He's a big boy!).
And he can be a nightmare at times... he's 1yr old (around 14/15 months I believe).
He jumps up, he thinks nothing of barrelling into someone when he's excited, he used to snatch food as well. We've trained him out of most of it and he will calmly sit and wait for his food until I say "go on" but he's still an arsehole when he's excited. Namely because for the first 6 months of his life he was kept outside (by previous owners) on a chain with not much attention, then brought inside but still not trained. He's lovely and completely non aggressive but as he wasn't socialised or lead trained properly it can be very hard to deal with him, and I know if I'm not careful I could put someone at risk (not of being bitten but of being barrelled into!).

We'll be taking him to a dog trainer; we'll never give up on him or give him away but he's just too strong for me to lead train now, I've come very close to being flat on my face (despite trying every product possible) when he gets excited and wants to go for something.

When people don't train their dogs as pups someone else has to do it for them when the dog is an adult/close to an adult. Which can be very difficult particularly with a very large very strong dog!

aargh this really pissed me off.
I rescued a 10 month old girl staffy a few years ago from a couple who were both thick as they come only to find out 2 weeks later she was pregnant from her first heat and she gave birth just 12 days after her 1st birthday. 😡😡.
I did everything I could considering the situation I suddenly found myself in.
Unfortunately although she gave birth to 7 healthy pups it was too much for her and she passed away 9 weeks after they were born.
I found homes for all but 1 of the puppies, drew up contracts etc but 1 family in particular really managed to pull the wool over my eyes. They paid the small price and took the pup at 8 weeks and all was fine until I got a msg 6 months later saying they needed to get rid of the puppy a)because they couldn't cope and b) because she was taking up too much of their time away from their 3 children and newborn baby, and as per the contract were giving me 1st refusal. I of course took her in immediately. what I didn't know was that they had let her go feral. They had not continued with the toilet training I had started with all the puppies (and honestly she didn't even know what a garden was for) she guarded her food, was aggressive towards my other dog and then about a month after she came back to us all hell broke loose when she savaged my little girl for no reason whatsoever. 1 minute she was chewing a toy while my daughter was sat on the sofa playing with our other dog the next minute she's on the sofa with my daughter's arm in her mouth and my other dog was attacking the pup.
We had to have the pup pts at just 9 months old, my daughter has 10 stitches and my other dog is now bitch aggressive and won't let any animal near my daughter.
When I told the father of this family what had happened he laughed and said "oh yeah she nipped my son, completely out of control that 1"!!!!
I don't know what can be done about these idiots but a licence with an exam of some kind would be a good start

Oh cactus that sounds hard. My girl is about 50kg. No way would she fit in a cage. Large doesn't cover it.
Have you found a trainer?
I use a dogmatic to help keep her under close control!

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Oh mommy how awful.

mommytoboo86

Oh mommy your poor daughter!! Is she recovering from it? Does she have fear of dogs now? These are the consequences of no regulation. Children getting mauled. Because idiots are allowed to have whatever pets they like in whatever conditions they like. How is that right??

Not you btw! You’re not the idiot. I mean the people who had your pup!

wolfiefan yes it was and despite everything and the state of my daughter I still bawled my flipping eyes out at the vets calling myself all the names under the sun while cuddling her. it's just over a year since and I'm still not over it. The first time I ever had to pts
xx

batteredbreadedorsouthernfried, yes she's recovering very well. the wounds are healed but obvs left with a scar. We bio oil it everyday but will leave it to her decide what she wants to do when she's older if there's any scarring left.
Thankfully she isn't scared of dogs. She has special needs and everything is very black and white with her. She sees it as puppy bit her but 'her kobi' saved her and that was it.
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They should bring back the licence. Not one that you just pick up at the post office, there should be both a written and practical test

Wee darling. I was bitten by a Rottweiler as child but somehow I managed to tell myself it was just an angry dog rather than be afraid of all dogs. I love dogs now.

Our neighbours do this. Get a dog. Then complain about dog barking, whining etc. But they restrict access to garden and never walk them. They are also not allowed in most of house. It was really frustrating when they had a husky who just cried and cried.

I don't love dogs and will go out of my way to avoid them, but at the same time I believe cruelty to animals is wrong and must be punished.

Smaller end of the pet scale but IMO just as infuriating is the people selling rodents on Gumtree.

Our guinea-pigs are all Rescues (we have GP6/GP7/GP8 at the moment)

The sellers who put "Kids lost interest" "Getting rid because we're getting a puppy" "Kids outgrown them"

I want to shake them till their teeth rattle. As the Adult they are responsible . The adult was the one who legally took on the pet not the child.

My DD has developed allergies to GP6 (he has coarse fur) but she refuses to give him up (he'd swap ownership to me not leave home) .

They are messy, they do cost money. My guineas have already been rehomed once at least, we are their forever home.
Though after these we won't get any more, DD will be thinking about Uni in a few years and I am too old to fit in the outdoor run to catch them !

Any animal is a commitment regardless of cute factor, age or size.

There are enough bloody warnings about "for life and not just for Christmas", enough rescue, rehoming and vet programs on the TV and enough examples in the newspapers and on social media to have got the message through, but no.

These bastards are not only failing to think through the amount of work, but they're perpetuating this abuse by showing their kids that this is how you deal with animals.

Border collies can be an issue around here. Very few farm dogs are spayed and whilst the responsible farmers have segregated kennels, there are plenty of 'accidents' and the puppies go as low as £50 or free if they don't show an interest in working. You then have a highly intelligent puppy off generations of working stock shut in a small house and walked once a week if that - total recipe for disaster.

I once knew someone in my home time who was well know for being very dodgy and a bit of a bruiser. He heard about a puppy being left by the family to whine outside all day in winter in a poky little yard in it's own filth etc, basically really badly neglected. Nothing was being done about it so he just knocked on their door and said 'give us your dog or I'll hurt you' and they apparently wordlessly handed it over! For years afterwards you'd see him out and about always with this (now absolutely massive) dog. It was just the softest, sweetest, most well behaved dog and followed him everywhere, it absolutely adored him.

Not that I'm advocating violence or taking things into your own hands! But at least life turned out very well for that particular pup.

70. Similarly rabbits. Stuck in a hutch after being bought for a child who got bored after a week.

I would love a dog i grew up with them and adored them but i accept i haven't got the time for one yet :(