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Daughter's best friend's mum has turned on me...aibu or is she?

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runthemotherfuckingjewels · 15/11/2017 13:45

Bit of a long one, I'm afraid, don't want to drip feed.

DD (10) has BF whose mum has a long-term chronic illness, which has got worse over the past couple of months. I totally feel for her - she's lost her job, partner and leads a very limited life while struggling to take care of her DDs. Her DD is lovely and has been besties with my DD for around 5 years. She stays with us quite often, especially recently when her DM has been in hospital, and me and my DH have been helping out a lot with lifts to/from school.

I wouldn't necessarily class the mum as a friend, but have given her lots of moral support (as well as practical) over the last couple of years. She can be quite harsh and judgy of other people, and not someone I'd seek out as a friend.

So, the night before school term starts the mum is texting me to arrange lifts for her DD that week. Doesn't mention anything is wrong. Next day, after school, my DD is in floods of tears as her BF's DM has contacted school to complain about her and she was 'told off' by the teacher. BF's DD told teacher that my DD had said some 'horrific' things to her BF and my DD was basically told she had to be nice to her BF and do whatever she could to make her happy. To put this into context, my DD is the sweetest, kindest kid who wants to keep everyone happy and often does so at her own expense, so I'd been coaching her at home to stick up for herself a bit more and not feel responsible for all her friends' happiness, so what the teacher said contradicted this. I'm not being naive about my DD, she really is kind-hearted (I wouldn't necessarily say that about my DD2!!).

I was very surprised that her BF's DM didn't contact me directly about her DD being upset (I was aware they weren't getting on well before half term hols) and went straight to the school instead. Texted her suggesting I ask the school to sit both girls down to understand each others viewpoint and sort out their differences. The mum didn't want this to happen. Told her my DD was v upset and keen to talk things through but her BF always burst into tears and ran away when she tried, and that they both needed some help to vocalise their issues. The mum suggested Facetime, which we did but it ended badly....her BF was in tears, hysterical, and her DM ended the call stating my DD wasn't upset enough! Me and DD left speechless and not quite understanding what had gone so wrong.

My DH went in to speak to the teacher as my DD was worried that she'd be thought badly of and didn't know how to deal with the situation with her BF. Teacher was nice and understanding, and says she was v surprised at what she'd heard from BF's DM as she thought it wasn't in my DD's nature to say 'horrific' things. Anyway, next day the mum writes in a letter about the Facetime convo the girls had had (not sure what it said).

Haven't heard from the mum since, but have heard that she is v angry with me.

Lesson learned...never interfere in children's friendships! (they are friends again now). But who is being unreasonable? What should I do?

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AlternativeTentacle · 15/11/2017 13:48

You have stopped the lifts now yes?

sparepantsandtoothbrush · 15/11/2017 13:49

It's hard to say who is being unreasonable with only one side of the story. I'm sure the other mum would have a different version to tell.

Theresamayscough · 15/11/2017 13:49

Do nothing op.

Back off from helping the mum and encourage your dd to have other friends as well as this one.

She’s 10 so will be changing friends anyway so encourage her to look outwards.

Don’t discuss fire dd with this mum. Draw a line.

School and teachers are canny and will know what’s what. Stay cool and move on.

blueskyinmarch · 15/11/2017 13:50

Gosh - hard one. It sounds like your DD's BF is not coping well with her DM being ill and is taking it out on your DD. I think you need to talk to your DD about why her friend has being saying this and letting her know she isn't to blame in any way. Maybe try and back off a bit and let things run their course? Or could you go and see the mum while the girls are in school to see if they both need some support? Not saying you need to offer support but maybe point her in the right direction?

Theresamayscough · 15/11/2017 13:50

and stop the lifts. It’s not fair on tire dd and tying her to a friendship she may want rid of. Her needs come first

Groovee · 15/11/2017 13:51

Leave it in the hands of the school.

You’ve given a lot of support to this woman, and is probably feels like she’s flung it back in your face. I’d steer well clear from now on.

NotSuchASmugMarriedNow1 · 15/11/2017 13:52

Yeah just stop the lifts now as pp say and leave them to work things through for themselves

MinervaSaidThar · 15/11/2017 13:56

YEs, please tell me you're not taking instructions on lifts anymore?

You and your DD are not her whippbig boys.

AshleySilver · 15/11/2017 13:56

Don't do anything other than continuing to support your dd.

To me, the one thing this whole episode has shown is that even if the other girl and her mum need support, you are not the one to give it.

runthemotherfuckingjewels · 15/11/2017 13:56

@theresamayscough thanks, I know I need to be the 'bigger' person in this. DD's BF and her DM have enough shit to cope with in their life.

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Theresamayscough · 15/11/2017 14:00

Op wasn’t criticising you btw you have been obviously lovely to this family and sometimes other people don’t deserve it. As said your dd comes first.Flowers

runthemotherfuckingjewels · 15/11/2017 14:00

@blueskyinmarch I do understand that her DD isn't coping well and this has made her very emotional. She stayed ever so strong while her DM was in hospital (she didn't see her for 3 weeks), and it's all coming out now she's back home. her DD is having counselling, and I've explained to my DD that she's not to blame, and tried to help her understand why her BF is over reacting to things.

I really don't think it's a good idea going to see the mum. I've heard the way she speaks about people she perceives has crossed her, and it's not pleasant! I don't want DD's BF to suffer because of this - she has had an awful lot to deal with in her life. But I want to protect my DD too.

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blueskyinmarch · 15/11/2017 14:02

That’s fair. I would say just back off then and support your DD. It sounds like a very difficult situation.

runthemotherfuckingjewels · 15/11/2017 14:02

Oh, and the lifts have stopped! I really don't want anything to do with the mum anymore.

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NumberEightyOne · 15/11/2017 14:02

Don't engage any further in this drama. Encourage your dd to widen her circle of friends. To be honest, when I was going through a very tough time because of serious illness within the family I was a bit angry with the world and overly sensitive. Maybe this is what's happening with the DM? Saying that, it's not your problem, so steer clear of them.

runthemotherfuckingjewels · 15/11/2017 14:03

@sparepantsandtoothbrush true, there's never just one 'truth'

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Aeroflotgirl · 15/11/2017 14:04

I would back off from this, and tell our dd to back off from BF. Encourage her to foster other friendships at school, and mabey outside school Stop the lifts and just keep a distance. Hopefully the friendship will run its course. It sounds like the little girl is stressed, or picking up from their homelife, but that is not your dd concern.

Aeroflotgirl · 15/11/2017 14:05

Feel sorry for the little girl, that the mother is like this, yes she has her problems, but op has said she has always been a difficult person, not someone she would be friends with.

backinthatdress · 15/11/2017 14:06

Drop the lifts and don't offer to help out anymore apart from the odd tea etc
She may be going through a hard time but that doesn't give her the right to be cross with you.
I'd just let the girls sort it out themselves tbh but keep on saying she need to stick up for herself also

ArcheryAnnie · 15/11/2017 14:08

I can understand why you are inclined to give both the friend and her mum the benefit of the doubt, as they are both hurting and vulnerable - but it isn't your DD's job to be the focus of their distress. If your DD wishes to remain friends with this girl, then by all means facilitate it, but be led by what your DD wants, not what the BF's mum wants.

whiskyowl · 15/11/2017 14:15

Hmmmm, I get where you are coming from and I think you are being reasonable.

But illness - chronic, painful, debilitating and degenerating illness - is not a reasonable thing. It's unfair that this is happening to a Mum of young children, and while she is being unreasonable, it's not unusual for someone in that position to be struggling with a maelstrom of emotions and to behave erratically and illogically.

I've seen this happen a number of times with people who are ill or grieving. Sometimes it's something totally outside the situation that becomes a lightning rod for all of the frustrations. It's unfair on your DD and you that this seems to be you.

I think the best thing you can do is to back off, without being huffy or cross, but to be there in the background to offer help/support if it is requested. I know this will be an unpopular view on here, where the idea is always that you should fling off in an enormous tantrum and never speak to the person again, but the circumstances of this case seem pretty exceptional to me, and perhaps the call on you here is to be the bigger person in light of that.

This is really hard for your DD, especially with her being painted as the "bad" kid, so loads of support and help, and perhaps contact with the teacher again to make sure all is well, may be in order.

runthemotherfuckingjewels · 15/11/2017 14:17

Thanks everyone, really helpful. I will always stick up for my DD and act in her interest. I just don't want her BF to suffer because of the actions of her DM...she is really hurting at the moment. She's only an innocent kid trying to deal with a tough home life.

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Theresamayscough · 15/11/2017 14:19

whisky

Not aware anyone has advices the op to have a massive tantrum far from it read the posts.Hmm

Op I have found Down the years you can help others but you can’t do this st the expense of your own children.

Theresamayscough · 15/11/2017 14:22

One of my dds was friendly with a child who had a volatile temper due to awful home conditions. We encouraged her to be nice to the girl and she got punched and kicked.

End of helping I am afraid.

ohfourfoxache · 15/11/2017 14:22

Sounds like you’re doing the right thing. You need to keep your distance from the mother whilst trying to be there for the BF.

I feel really sorry for both kids tbh Sad

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