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Daughter's best friend's mum has turned on me...aibu or is she?

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runthemotherfuckingjewels · 15/11/2017 13:45

Bit of a long one, I'm afraid, don't want to drip feed.

DD (10) has BF whose mum has a long-term chronic illness, which has got worse over the past couple of months. I totally feel for her - she's lost her job, partner and leads a very limited life while struggling to take care of her DDs. Her DD is lovely and has been besties with my DD for around 5 years. She stays with us quite often, especially recently when her DM has been in hospital, and me and my DH have been helping out a lot with lifts to/from school.

I wouldn't necessarily class the mum as a friend, but have given her lots of moral support (as well as practical) over the last couple of years. She can be quite harsh and judgy of other people, and not someone I'd seek out as a friend.

So, the night before school term starts the mum is texting me to arrange lifts for her DD that week. Doesn't mention anything is wrong. Next day, after school, my DD is in floods of tears as her BF's DM has contacted school to complain about her and she was 'told off' by the teacher. BF's DD told teacher that my DD had said some 'horrific' things to her BF and my DD was basically told she had to be nice to her BF and do whatever she could to make her happy. To put this into context, my DD is the sweetest, kindest kid who wants to keep everyone happy and often does so at her own expense, so I'd been coaching her at home to stick up for herself a bit more and not feel responsible for all her friends' happiness, so what the teacher said contradicted this. I'm not being naive about my DD, she really is kind-hearted (I wouldn't necessarily say that about my DD2!!).

I was very surprised that her BF's DM didn't contact me directly about her DD being upset (I was aware they weren't getting on well before half term hols) and went straight to the school instead. Texted her suggesting I ask the school to sit both girls down to understand each others viewpoint and sort out their differences. The mum didn't want this to happen. Told her my DD was v upset and keen to talk things through but her BF always burst into tears and ran away when she tried, and that they both needed some help to vocalise their issues. The mum suggested Facetime, which we did but it ended badly....her BF was in tears, hysterical, and her DM ended the call stating my DD wasn't upset enough! Me and DD left speechless and not quite understanding what had gone so wrong.

My DH went in to speak to the teacher as my DD was worried that she'd be thought badly of and didn't know how to deal with the situation with her BF. Teacher was nice and understanding, and says she was v surprised at what she'd heard from BF's DM as she thought it wasn't in my DD's nature to say 'horrific' things. Anyway, next day the mum writes in a letter about the Facetime convo the girls had had (not sure what it said).

Haven't heard from the mum since, but have heard that she is v angry with me.

Lesson learned...never interfere in children's friendships! (they are friends again now). But who is being unreasonable? What should I do?

OP posts:
chicaguapa · 15/11/2017 14:22

I have witnessed a very similar situation (not either of my DC). One parent had a more proactive approach to resolving the issues and the other didn't, preferring to go straight to the school and not involve the other parent.

Both felt very justified in what they did. Parent 1 wanted to be open and honest about the issues and try to resolve together. Parent 2 doesn't like confrontation or conflict and didn't want to involve parent 1 in what they perceived to be an issue between the DC alone. Parent 2 is a bit scared of Parent 1 and saw the proactive approach as being a bit too much. Parent 1 saw the going to school directly as a betrayal and lack of confidence in Parent 2.

Neither parents nor DC are friends now. Both parents blame the other for their differing approach, but neither was wrong or right.

StormTreader · 15/11/2017 14:24

I suspect your dds bf has gotten used to your dd being the one thing in her life that she CAN control, and now you are coaching her to not be such a pushover, her friend is getting hysterical at losing that control too. I suspect the "nasty" things could well just be your dd saying "we don't always have to do what you want to do" or even just "no".

Theresamayscough · 15/11/2017 14:26

Storm that’s a very good point

Rubies12345 · 15/11/2017 14:27

Did she give an example of one of horrific things that she said?

MrsLupo · 15/11/2017 14:30

Interesting that things blew up between your DD and her BF at a time when you'd been encouraging her to be more assertive in her friendships. Sounds a bit like the dynamic between them may be one where BF calls the shots and DD is a bit of a doormat, and that DD sticking up for herself for a change caused BF to have a massive meltdown (translated for her mum as your DD 'saying horrific things'). One could speculate as to why the BF might feel the need to control her friendships to this degree, but ultimately, as pp have said, you need to prioritise your DD's feelings, support her if her core friendship is going through a stressful patch and encourage her to widen her friendship circle as much as possible. And keep up the good work about not being a doormat - if the electrifying response she got from BF is anything to go by, she was doing quite well on that front.

MrsLupo · 15/11/2017 14:31

Oh, sorry, xposted with Storm. Blush

BenLui · 15/11/2017 14:33

I would tell my DD to be scrupulously polite and civil to this other girl whenever they have to interact in class but tell her to find other friends to play with at break times.

FireCracker2 · 15/11/2017 14:34

I think you could BOTH learn something from your daughters!!

FireCracker2 · 15/11/2017 14:36

I would tell my DD to be scrupulously polite and civil to this other girl whenever they have to interact in class but tell her to find other friends to play with at break times.

The kids are friends again! It's the mothers with the problem!

BonnesVacances · 15/11/2017 14:38

Sounds a bit like the dynamic between them may be one where BF calls the shots and DD is a bit of a doormat, and that DD sticking up for herself for a change caused BF to have a massive meltdown

Maybe this is what has happened with OP and the mum? And why the mum has responded the way she has too?

BenLui · 15/11/2017 14:45

Fire but it doesn’t sound like a healthy relationship at all.

The other girl appears to have told lies about the OP’s DD when she stopped allowing her to have all her own way. And then threw hysterical tantrums during a sorting it out FaceTime? (Assuming I’ve read this correctly)

That’s not someone I’d personally feel my gentle DD needed to be playing with.

Not all friendships are healthy - just read the relationships board.

runthemotherfuckingjewels · 15/11/2017 15:07

Ooh, you lot are very insightful!
@mrslupo and @StormTreader I think you're spot on with this. BF does have a controlling streak (and has had for years), not liking my DD playing with other friends etc. Last half term, she was over reacting (understandably, given what's going on at home) to everything my DD said/did, perceiving her actions as a slight or my DD not wanting to be friends. BF would run away crying if my DD tried to talk to her about it, then would get all their friends round her feeling sorry for her, saying she was worried about her mum. Cue all the friends turning on my DD and thinking she was being mean by not giving in to all her BF's demands/apologising. I got my DD to understand that this was manipulative behaviour and, while she should be understanding of her BF's home situ, she shouldn't be manipulated and pushed into give apologies that weren't justified. Whenever you try and change the dynamic in a relationship there is pushback.

OP posts:
MinervaSaidThar · 15/11/2017 15:12

The kids are friends again! It's the mothers with the problem!

Firecracker2 What has the OP done wrong? Confused

MrsLupo · 15/11/2017 21:38

Whenever you try and change the dynamic in a relationship there is pushback.

So true! Are they in Y6, OP? I wonder if this friendship will just die a natural death when they change school, particularly if you and the mum are no longer on friendly terms. You sound like you're doing a bang up job teaching your DD about healthy relationship dynamics. YAdefNBU.

willyougotobed · 15/11/2017 22:40

I'd want to know exactly what the horrific things said were.

CorbynsBumFlannel · 15/11/2017 23:04

Tbh I think you've made more of this than there needed to be. Did your dd say mean things? If she did then she got told off which could have been the end of it. If not then I would assume she told the teacher that and unless it had been witnessed they were likely just both told to be nice to each other. If the friend was running away upset I would have just advised your dd to play with other children for now. The only text I would have sent to the other mum would have been to say that the lifts are probably not a good idea as the girls aren't getting on. Trying to arrange school meetings/FaceTime etc is just ridiculous over a silly falling out which has now resolved itself.

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