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To think this is discrimination

679 replies

Hiptrip · 11/11/2017 09:47

I work in a 365 days a year industry. My colleagues and I, have to provide cover over Christmas.

As I worked over Christmas and New Year last year, I booked and was promised this year off. I have this in writing.

Two colleagues have announced that they can't get childcare, and now management have come back to me and said I have to work. (Single, no kids was planning to have fun with friends and family. Shouldn't have mentioned it in my break at work.)

I have now received a written directive that my leave is cancelled, with the threat of disciplinary if I don't turn up.

No unions here, but what are my chances of claiming constructive dismissal if I don't go to work?

We are a team of twelve and those with families, who are rostered to work have a month to sort themselves out, as does everyone else. Why should it be me that has to come in the whole time, along with our unfortunate manager who has no choice because she is in charge?

OP posts:
Aridane · 14/11/2017 13:50

Cannot believe (or maybe I can...) that supervisor cried

Bunnystew · 14/11/2017 14:01

If a manager shits on people, they wont want to do extra to help the manager out. Just desserts. Lesson learnt to do things professionally.

Bunnystew · 14/11/2017 14:03

She prematurely booked the holiday on the back of bullying you. So I’m glad shes feeling the fallout of her crap behaviour

ReanimatedSGB · 14/11/2017 14:09

Yup, serves her right. If she had begun by asking nicely if anyone was prepared to swap, she might have found that someone was willing. But trying to cancel someone else's leave, despite that other person having booked it in good time and it being that person's turn to have Christmas off, is completely unacceptable.

FlowerPot1234 · 14/11/2017 14:09

Sweet karma.

RhiannonOHara · 14/11/2017 16:34

That’s what happens when you act like a bitch at work.

Quite.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 14/11/2017 16:47

She started crying and asked if one of us would help her so she wouldn’t have to cancel her holiday ... No one offered

That’s what happens when you act like a bitch at work

Indeed Hmm

FWIW I'm sorry that she may lose her own holiday, but perhaps next time she'll remember to handle things differently, rather than swearing at and abusing another member of staff then boo hooing because she's not got her own way

And I'm still very pleased that, if she does do a "disappearing act" around Christmas, there are others besides you who can be called on

Jux · 14/11/2017 17:00

She started crying ??? Unbelievable.

ilovesooty · 14/11/2017 17:14

Having already received a warning I doubt that management will be too impressed to hear she's resorted to emotional blackmail.

doodle01 · 14/11/2017 21:11

Agree other people’s kids are t your prob if you don’t have them any more than their pets are

Originalfoogirl · 14/11/2017 21:43

boneybackjefferson - “not shit on by parents that refuse to work their contracted shift.”

They are not shit on by parents, they are shit on by their employer.

BoneyBackJefferson · 14/11/2017 22:03

Originalfoogirl

Its the entitlement of these parents that starts all of this. It may be badly handled but lets not forget where it begins.

FlashTheSloth · 15/11/2017 11:13

How unprofessional! I cannot imagine any of the supervisors/higher up staff in my work acting like this at all.

BrandNewHouse · 15/11/2017 11:15

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Housemum · 15/11/2017 11:39

I've just lurked and followed on here but well done OP for keeping things dignified and professional and standing your ground Flowers
Can't believe the "I'd phone in sick" suggestions on here. I'd feel so guilty doing that I'd have a rubbish time anyway, and potentially OP could be seen out and therefore guilty of misconduct?
And can't believe the entitled views of kids-trump-adults. I'm lucky that I usually only have to work 1 Christmas in 3, when I did a couple of years back (DDs aged 11 and 7) we gave them one present from us on Christmas Eve (a game that we then all played together). As they are early risers they were up at 7 so I saw them open stocking presents from Santa. We agreed that they could open presents received already from family during the day, then when I came back in the evening we did the ones from us. If they'd been younger and asleep they'd have done that on Boxing Day.

Scelestus · 15/11/2017 13:54

Op have just caught up. So pleased for you. As others have said, please keep a record of any bullying, harassment, or negative differential treatment. I would start with the weeping and emotional blackmail. Good luck, and in case I forget, I hope you have a fabulous Christmas Flowers

Hiptrip · 15/11/2017 23:07

@ OriginalFooGirl

  • boneybackjefferson - “not shit on by parents that refuse to work their contracted shift.”

They are not shit on by parents, they are shit on by their employer.*

If your employer is the Met Police, the Fire Service or the NHS (just to give examples,) they have to cover shifts, 24/7 all year round. There are a few wankers who can’t sort their private commitments out, who make it hard for the team - and in my workplace at least, it tends to be parents playing the lack of childcare card.

It’s a shame because there are others who wouldn’t dream of doing that to a colleague. And people who know if they accept the extra pay that goes with a supervisory role, know that the buck stops with them if there is a staffing problem, and step up.

OP posts:
Ellendegeneres · 29/11/2017 09:37

Just been catching up on this thread, how are things going at work op?

Hiptrip · 29/11/2017 23:04

Fine thanks. No problems at all. I think that two of my colleagues might well go sick over Christmas, but covering their shifts is not my worry.

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Jux · 30/11/2017 11:14

Two!!! Oh my word.

billybagpuss · 24/12/2017 22:05

Wishing you a great Christmas and hope the shit stays away from the fan with all the other people and their shifts x

lljkk · 24/12/2017 22:59

Can I tag on stupid question: if you are single parent working shifts over Christmas, weekends, new Years, what do you do for childcare? Assuming no friends/co-parent/relatives to help.

Are there childminders that will work those days?

DonnyAndVladSittingInATree · 24/12/2017 23:16

if you are single parent working shifts over Christmas, weekends, new Years, what do you do for childcare? Assuming no friends/co-parent/relatives to help.

Get a different job. Seriously, I’m a single parent and it’s exactly why I could never commit to a job that requires 24/7 staffing. It’s madness to try it if you have no weekend/holiday childcare. Let them employ someone who can do the job.

PurpleDaisies · 24/12/2017 23:22

Good luck tomorrow op.
Happy Christmas

whiteroseredrose · 29/12/2017 07:12

Just wondering if either of the colleagues did go sick over Christmas

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