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AIBU?

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77 replies

Blessed81 · 09/11/2017 13:39

I have been in a relationship with a full time single dad for over three months now (kids' mum passed away more than two years ago). He's a very nice man and I don't want to loose him but it is getting harder & harder everyday. We got together during the summer holidays when the kids had one week away at grandma's in France. He had hoped to get an au pair so we could spend more time together getting to know each other but that plan fell through as he failed to get one. He has tried to get a child minder but that hasn't worked either. The kids are 11 years old and making 12 this month (twins). Dad finishes work early and rushes home so they feel that there's no need for an au pair or child minder. We tried sneaking around & almost got caught so we put that on hold. Right now, we are struggling meeting up and this is really weighing him down, he's sad & frustrated that we can't see each other (he told me that). I have tried to tell him not to get too frustrated, that things will get better but that doesn't seem to help, says he doesn't see an end in sight. He has no help whatsoever so everything is on him. He tried to get kids on sleep overs during half term but that didn't work. This week, we tried lunch but the situation is so frustrating at the moment, we can't meet, he can't see his friends (generally no social life) and because of that, he has started withdrawing. I know he's very busy but we used to chat on a daily basis, now I message him and he doesn't message back or takes days to message back. I did say perhaps we give up and leave this dating alone but he has said he doesn't want to give up because he found a wonderful woman, but I feel like he is shutting me out, I feel communication is what has kept us going and strong, with that getting less and less, it's affecting me and feel like letting this relationship go.

WHAT SHOULD I DO? PLEASE ADVISE.

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astoundedgoat · 09/11/2017 15:57

I don't think you quite understand the difference between a childminder and a babysitter.

On sitters.co.uk you literally put in your address, details about your children and the day and time you want a babysitter and later that day you get a confirmation telling you who is coming, and a few details about her including her reviews. An hour before she arrives she calls to double check that everything is okay, and then he pays her (about £8 an hour) when he gets in. There's no "she's deciding", there's no childminder with availability. You book in advance as if you were booking any other service provider.

It's possible that this guy has had children for the last 11 years without knowing about sitters.co.uk. Unlikely, but possible. Suggest it to him, and if he doesn't organise a babysitter though it or some other means so that he can go out at least once a week, then I would take it that he doesn't want to, and leave it be.

If he wanted to see you, he would.

ILostItInTheEarlyNineties · 09/11/2017 16:04

Are you sure he doesn't have a partner at home? All this sneaking about and keeping you at arm's length seems odd. I'm sure he could get a babysitter if he tried hard enough..

Blessed81 · 09/11/2017 16:07

Justbookedasummerholiday

That's true, I did try to understand the loss they have gone through but he seems to just let kids dictate what he does and doesn't do.

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Blessed81 · 09/11/2017 16:12

Astoundedgoat

Thanks a lot for that clarification, I will put it past him and see what happens.

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Blessed81 · 09/11/2017 16:14

ILostItInTheEarlyNineties

Am positive he doesn't have a wife at home, I have been there when kids weren't around.

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astoundedgoat · 09/11/2017 16:18

Blessed81 Just in a case he goes for it, my post implied that you can book for same day - you can't really, unless you are in central London or somewhere with millions of babysitters registered locally. Generally I book a week in advance (or a little more) for Saturdays, or 4 days in advance for a weekday. So you can't be completely spontaneous! You do still need a sitter to actually be available that night.

BernardBlacksHangover · 09/11/2017 16:22

YY to sitters.co.uk! It’s one evening. The babysitter doesn’t have to have a long hard think about taking the job or not, (unless there are exceptional circumstances, like health problems, for example, which would make caring for them very difficult).

Maybe I’m missing something, but it sounds like your prospective partner is throwing up a lot of reasons why he can’t see you. And it’s only the beginning of the relationship, so I don’t know how I’d feel about that tbh.

Trafficjammadness · 09/11/2017 16:24

Sorry but my children don't tell me whether they have a babysitter, I would book the babysitter and tell them it is happening.

He needs to be the one in control not be dictated to by his children. If I were you I would hear alarm bells ringing, being involved with someone with children is hard enough without them making no effort and apparently doing as they are told by their children.

Blessed81 · 09/11/2017 16:24

DunkMeInTomatoSoup

They go to friends house on Monday and Friday after school and only had one sleep over in three months. A day off isn't possible cos no one to leave with kids, am going to advise getting a childminder and see.

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BernardBlacksHangover · 09/11/2017 16:26

am going to advise getting a childminder and see

Do you mean a babysitter? They are completely different things!

Blessed81 · 09/11/2017 16:27

Pennypickle

Thanks for your advise

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Blessed81 · 09/11/2017 16:30

Astoundedgoat

Thanks for that update. He can book in advance if he decides to go for it anyway. We shall see.

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Blessed81 · 09/11/2017 16:33

BernardBlacksHangover

Have been advised to get a babysitter

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Lozmatoz · 09/11/2017 16:38

He’s probably so stressed, it’s easier to ignore some things. He probably also feels intensely guilty for wanting to leave the kids but feeling they need him 24/7. He may suppose his happiness comes second, but equally that won’t sit right with him because he wants things to move on with you.

Give him time, be gentle, don’t pressure him. Ask him how he feels, what he would like in an ideal world.

Try asking him how he feels

FinallyDecidedOnUserName · 09/11/2017 16:39

Omg he needs to find a babysitter. An older girl - responsible daughter of a friend - 17 or older. Bribe with cool older sitter & dominos pizza - they'll be begging you to go out again soon.

Maplestaple · 09/11/2017 16:40

They are nearly 12? Why on earth would they need a childminder? Surely they make their way home after school and can entertain themselves until he gets home from work.

My 11 year old is in bed at 8:30 , 9 at the latest. Why can't you go over then? Or organise a babysitter for the evenings?

I call bullshit, there's something he isn't telling you.

SpiritedLondon · 09/11/2017 16:42

If my DH was widowed I'm not sure how great he would be at sourcing a baby sitter- I don't think he would initiate a conversation with another parent about reciprocal babysitting arrangements and I doubt he would know about Sitters.com. I think in this case you need a youngish sitter ( teenager)who will sit with them and watch crap on Netflix and eat pizza so they don't feel babied. Other than that he has every right to have a social life whether that's dating or playing sport etc. Sounds like he has a little " princess" in the family or he's using her as an excuse. If he can't resolve this issue now I don't really see how it will work in the long term.

19lottie82 · 09/11/2017 16:42

Sorry OP but another vote for, if he really wanted to see you he would work something out.

ILostItInTheEarlyNineties · 09/11/2017 16:42

I still think it doesn't quite stack up. It takes seconds to reply to a message, why does it take him several days?

How does he not have some sort of childcare already in place? He must have a go to solution for INSET days, half term, school holidays, when one of them is ill etc?

I can't help thinking that him withdrawing from you, not replying to your messages and finding it impossible to meet is being "blamed" all on difficulties with childcare.

FinallyDecidedOnUserName · 09/11/2017 16:43

@Maplestaple all kids are different. They may well feel insecure as a result of losing their mum whilst so young, they may live rurally. My kids would have hated to be left alone during the evening at aged 12.

starfishmummy · 09/11/2017 16:46

ILost I was thinking the same thing. Or maybe he has another girlfriend as.well..

EmilyChambers79 · 09/11/2017 16:49

He has tried getting a babysitter but kids weren't so keen and babysitter too wasn't decided. He tried getting an au pair but failed. Will forward that site so he can try getting a different childminder. Thanks

First of all, they are 11. They don't get to decide if they need a babysitter. Second of all, the babysitter wasn't decided?! What does that even mean? You find a babysitter, ask them if they are free, if they are how much to babysit two 11 year olds for 5 hours Friday night.

It sounds like he's making excuses to not see you, he's not actually doing anything productive to try and see you.

Blessed81 · 09/11/2017 16:59

EmilyChambers79

The babysitter is a student and doesn't live locally so was worried abt travelling at night incase he's out and comes back late.

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Blessed81 · 09/11/2017 17:03

FinallyDecidedOnUsername

I think it's also partly because they lost their mum abt two years ago, he could be over protective of his kids. Daughter is a little princess and dad gives all the attention she wants.

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19lottie82 · 09/11/2017 17:04

And I don’t mean to sound patronising but you’re not in a full time relationship with this guy. You spent a week with him three months ago and have hardly seen him since?

I don’t mean to be harsh but keep your options open!