And now they're changing Nutella!

[VanillaSugar]

Nutella gets lighter and sweeter. Aka more milk powder and sugar

Won't be buying that again. Nor Terrys Chocolate Oranges. Nor Creme Eggs.

Profit before taste humppfffff.

[PolkaDottyRose]

Nutella is the food of the gods. How dare they! Is nothing sacred?

[PolkaDottyRose]

Hotel Chocolat - spent a fortune on it for DH for a few years..didn't understand what all the fuss was about..doesn't taste great..their hot chocolate in their cafe on the other hand, is divine.

[TheWhyteRoseShallRiseAgain]

Sloe I absolutely don't feed Nutella to my kids. I hide it and eat it in secret myself My secret stash is going to be tiny Dairy milk, hotel chocolat and now Nutella, they better leave toffee crisps alone

[ferrier]

Toffee crisps were ruined years ago. Really slimy chocolate now.
Dairy milk has also been ruined. Doesn't even melt properly for baking. Waitrose and even Tesco own brand are much better.

[DanicaJones]

Dh bought one of the new Christmas jars of nutella and it has less sugar per 100g than an older jar we have. 0.5 g less of sugar per 100g

[Incitatus]

Is it possible to make chocolate at home?

[VanillaSugar]

Toffe crisp!!!! Oh I loved those!

[pisacake]

"What was the original fat in Nutella? Has it always been palm oil?"

No, it was traditionally hazelnuts + chocolate only, but vegetable fat was introduced in 1947 to make it cheap and shit.

Over the years it was evolved to add ever more modern (factory-altered) vegetable fats. Nutella started to remove the good fat from their product (cocoa butter) and sell it. They replaced it with shit modified fats instead. These would have varied over time but basically the cheapest nastiest shit they could get their hands on. At one point hydrogenated coconut oil

Palm oil didn't enter the mix till very recently, basically people were eating so much disgusting unhealthy food in the West that they complained that the chemically altered vegetable fats were harmful (which they are), so Nutella (and others) responded by replacing these fats with palm oil which just destroys the rainforest and endangered species and warms the atmosphere instead.

So it's a very very shitty product indeed.

[Munchyseeds]

My DM got me some Dairy Milk from Canada the other day....no palm oil and smells and tastes just as it should
She happened to have taken some english stuff with her, gave some to her canadian friend who couldnt believe the difference

[purpleme12]

Yes that's the interesting thing munchyseeds. Wish I did have some of the old stuff so I can actually see the difference. I know it's different

[WomblingThree]

It does amuse me how everyone thinks Hotel Chocolat is somehow better than Cadbury. Nope, same shit-ton of palm oil and sugar. Are Twirls still made in Ireland? They were the last proper Cadbury chocolate.

@RustyBear, no it wasn’t that one. It was thick and shiny and almost treacly. It might actually have been Cadbury brand.

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WHy do you say Hotel Chocolat is the same as Cadbury??

Cadbudry - Dairy Milk: From Cadbury Website
MILK**, sugar, cocoa butter, cocoa mass, vegetable fats (palm, shea), emulsifiers (E442, E476), flavourings.

Hotel Chocolat - Milk Choc0olate batons : from HC website
cocoa solids (cocoa butter, cocoa mass), sugar, full cream milk powder, emulsifier (soya lecithin)

[00100001]

wombling ^

[00100001]

Also;

Hotel Choclat: Minimum 40% Cocoa Solids, Minimum 20% Milk Solids. 44.8 g of sugar per 100g
Cadbury: Minimum 20% Cocoa Solids, Minimum 20% Milk Solids and 56g of Sugar per 100g

So how did you come to the conclusion the Hotel Chocolat has "same shit-ton of palm oil and sugar."

[Rebeccaslicker]

I don't like Nutella. But i'm sure everything is shrinking even more than they say. I mean, a box of Cadbury's fingers used to be huge. Now I reckon you could polish it off in an afternoon. And chocolate orange? Chocolate satsuma more like!

[ChardonnaysPrettySister]

Palm oil is listed in the ingredients on the HC website.

[buttfacedmiscreant]

Very easy to tell the Canadian nutella from the Italian one. My guess is that they are making it like the Canadian one. Not an improvement.

[pisacake]

where? they say they don't use it.

twitter.com/hotelchocolat/status/319175595785351168?lang=en

[RedForFilth]

The change in chocolate has done my diet the world of good! Most of it is disgusting now!

[Rebeccaslicker]

Purely from a taste perspective I would be surprised if HC chocolate contains palm oil because the texture is so very different to Cadbury and others that are chock full of it. It doesn't have that sort of slimy texture.

[ChardonnaysPrettySister]

YES
Ingredients: Cocoa Solids (Cocoa Mass, Cocoa Butter), Sugar, Full Cream Milk Powder, Sweetened Hazelnut Paste (Hazelnuts, Sugar, Emulsifier (Sunflower Lecithin)), Hazelnut Paste, Stabilisers (Sorbitol, Glycerol), Hazelnuts, Florentines (Almonds, Sugar, Butter (From Milk), Glucose Syrup, Honey, Hazelnuts, Cream (From Milk)), Butter Oil (From Milk), Caramel (Glucose Fructose Syrup, Sweetened Condensed Milk, Half Salted Butter (From Milk), Sugar, Salt, Water), Vegetable Oils (Palm, Rapeseed), Pecan Nut Paste, Whipping Cream (Cream (From Milk), Stabiliser (Carrageenan)), Glucose Syrup, Cocoa Powder, Pecan Nuts, Sticky Toffee Sauce (Sugar, Cream (From Milk), Butter (From Milk), Natural Flavour (Vanilla)), Skimmed Milk Powder, Kirsch Soaked Cherries, Amaretto, Peanuts, Icing Sugar, Fruit Juice Concentrates (Raspberry, Carrot), Milk Fat, Neutral Alcohol, Cocoa Biscuits (Wheat Flour, Sugar, Vegetable Fat, Cocoa Powder, Malt Blend (Glucose Syrup, Barley Syrup, Malt Extract (From Barley)), Skimmed Milk Powder, Raising Agents (Sodium Bicarbonate, Tartaric Acid), Salt, Natural Flavour (Vanilla)), Walnuts, Shortbread Biscuits (Wheat Flour, Sugar, Vegetable Oils (Palm, Rapeseed), Golden Syrup, Tapioca Starch, Salt, Raising Agents (Sodium Bicarbonate, Ammonium Bicarbonate)), Meringue Pieces (Sugar, Non-Hydrogenated Vegetable Fats (Palm, Shea, Soybean (From Soya)), Wheat Starch, Egg White), Invert Sugar Syrup, Caramelised Sugar, Cream (From Milk), Dextrose, Emulsifiers (Soya Lecithin, Sunflower Lecithin), Champagne (Sulphites), Sunflower Oil, Freeze Dried Strawberry Powder, Yoghurt Powder (Yoghurt Powder (From Milk), Sugar, Acidity Regulators (Malic Acid, Citric Acid), Natural Flavour), Emulsifier (Soya Lecithin), Natural Flavours (Vanilla, Strawberry, Toffee, Raspberry, Mascarpone, Fudge, Carrot Cake, Caramel), Natural Colours (Beetroot, Paprika, Annatto, Carotene), Crisped Rice (Rice Flour, Sugar, Salt, Cocoa Butter), Freeze Dried Strawberry Pieces, Concentrated Whey (From Milk), Cinnamon, Acidity Regulator (Citric Acid), Milk Protein, Whole Milk, Ground Nutmeg, Sea Salt, Whey Powder (From Milk), Glazing Agents (Glucose Syrup, Sugar, Gum Arabic, Vegetable Fat, Modified Starch (Potato, Maize)), Vanilla Seeds, Spices. Dark Chocolate Contains Minimum 70% Cocoa Solids. Milk Chocolate Contains Minimum 40% Cocoa Solids, Minimum 20% Milk Solids. White Chocolate Contains Minimum 36% Cocoa Solids, Minimum 27% Milk Solids. Caramel Chocolate Contains Minimum 36% Cocoa Solids, Minimum 26% Milk Solids. For Allergens See in Bold. May contain traces of tree nuts, peanuts, soya, gluten, wheat.

This is their Everything Sleekster Box

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The [palm oil isn't used in the actual chocolate though... it says right there, it's in the meringue pieces, the shortbread and the florentines(?)

[ChardonnaysPrettySister]

Well, it's in the chocolates though.

[ChardonnaysPrettySister]

It seems the chocolates have palm oil, and it's listed in the ingredients lists, and the chocolate slabs are all different, most don't have palm oil, some do.

[ChardonnaysPrettySister]

But it's definitely not Nutella levels palm oil usage, so that's positive.