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AIBU to consider trusting him?

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OverseastepMom · 03/11/2017 19:24

Three months into my marriage and I discover that my new husband hasn't done a day's work since the day that I met him. After dating for two years, commuting to see each other at weekends and then spending a week at each house to accommodate the stepchildren, I discover, to my absolute horror, that my husband hasn't done a day's work since the day we met!
How so, you may ask? I ask that myself too, over and over. It seems that he was freshly redundant when we first dated, had a grievance with employer and took them to court, obviously hoping to win- no such luck, so that takes him six months down the line without work and living off some income support/child benefit. At which point we have been dating six months and things going well. So then, some how or another, he survives, we go on holidays, we travel home to meet the parents etc etc. At which point I am showing off my new catch of whom I am extremely proud.A year on, we discuss marriage, both of us equally excited, he proposes, I say yes!
As we are both a little older and family are most important to us, we settle for a small overseas affair, my family and friends flying out. Throughout this time, much of wedding has gone on my card (more because I had handbag at the right time) and thought we were together forever, so things would even out, so not really keeping a running total.
To cut a long story short, I buy us a house and a visit from his old landlord illuminates the fact he is 6 months behind with rent- I go ballistic and ask how this could be- especially as he has savings. I pay this off, he promises to repay me. I had always known he earnt less than me, but just thought he was paying a lot out on step children costs.
After this event, he realises that he has lost my trust as I am livid that he hid his debts from me and life continues... until a week or so later, when he disappears. Anyway, his conscience has got the better of him and he realises that he can no longer live the lie. He messages me, he has travelled off to the mountains to clear his head and then in the same message explains that he has no job, hasn't had a job since the day that we met and has been 'shuffling money to survive!'
Well, had we not been married, I would have been out of there like a flash and not returned.
As I live overseas, I went to see in-laws, they were mortified and took my side.
So the upshot is- he's back! He has apologised. I have called him all the names under the sun. He has promised me that he will make it up to me. He has sold all of his worldly goods and is busily renovating the house that I bought us in a bid to show he is reformed, whilst applying for jobs. Credit where due, he is applying for anything and everything and has a part time job while still applying that covers the bills.
A good friend said to me this week- so do you really think it will all be over when he has a permanent job and is an equal and a professional again? I couldn't answer. I know what he has done in the last two years, loved me and lifted me up and made me feel alive. He has seen me through stressful times in my demanding job as I am overseas without family and we have had fun and made memories and I LOVE HIM.
His bad choices have totally screwed up my financial situation and there is no way that he can stand on his feet for a while nevermind pay of the 10K plus that he owes me...,
Can I really love and forgive a man who has lied for me for all of the time I have known him? Do I even know who he is???

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Callaird · 04/11/2017 11:34

I can see how he got into this position, you don't explain all your problems to someone new, especially as he thought he was going to win the court case and then he could get his life back on track without you having to know about his problems. If he really liked you he wouldn't explain money worries to you in fear you would leave. I can see how it spiralled out of control. I would give him a second chance.

However, I would lock down my assets and go to a solicitor to get something signed to say that he gets no money or equity from the house and add in the loan. I would make sure this was in place for a very long time. Just in case he is just crap with money or work shy.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 04/11/2017 12:02

He's been a monumental idiot in omitting this truth to you

Has he though? Granted it was a risk, but since he's still there, talking OP round while enjoying the home she bought and much of her money, some might think he's actually been quite clever

Hideously deceitful and selfish perhaps, but clever nevertheless Hmm

OverseastepMom · 04/11/2017 13:34

Callaird &givemeallthechocolate ... Thank you for your sound words. I am going to make an appointment for legal advice.

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wheresthel1ght · 04/11/2017 13:55

My ex did similar albeit to a lesser financial extent so I do understand how you cam be fooled into believing them.

Given his current behaviour I would be inclined to give him a chance with very strict rules, but I would also cover my back and get legal advice, a proper agreement drawn up to protect the house with the view to reviewing in x number of years

Ultimately the decision is yours, but whatever you decide make sure you are protected legally

cunningartificer · 04/11/2017 21:16

I know that people here are worried about serial manipulators and the lying... but this does not sound like a compete scammer to me, but like someone who has made big mistakes by wanting to appear better than they are. And I can sympathise with that. Apart from anything else the positive relationship you clearly have with his parents is a big plus, and suggests this is a new issue. Be wary by all means but I do not think running to divorce is the best response. Yes he has failed you but from what you've said he also has supported you and made you happy. You now have the opportunity to test his sincerity over time. You clearly are a thoughtful person who won't fall for lies again. Time enough to think about divorce if things don't go well from now on. Good luck. Personally I believe in second chances.

LostInTheTunnelOfGoats · 04/11/2017 21:20

Jesus christ, boot him out. Will he be able to take you for half the house? Even if he can, better to lose it now before you put more of your money paying the mortgage while he sits and no doubt lies to you even more. Sunk cost fallacy and all that.

I'd actually see if you can divorce him on the grounds of...what is it....decent, breach of promise... I don't know, but surely there's something... you wouldn't have married him if you'd known, so if you can get on to a divorce asap, it will make it easier for you in the long run. I'll eat my hat if he doesn't pull a similar trick again

picatchoo · 04/11/2017 21:39

You said your family and friends travelled for the wedding, just interested to know if any of his friends were there?
He's a brazen and accomplished liar at best and a complete con artist at worst.
I wouldn't want to live with or rely on either of those options.

DownTownAbbey · 04/11/2017 22:02

I'm afraid my first thought was 'con artist' . My second was psychopath Sad. To keep all those balls in the air, to manoeuvre you into marriage and buying a property without sticking his hand in his pocket or arousing suspicion actually makes my skin crawl thinking about it.

Sorry, but that's what struck me from your posts.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 04/11/2017 22:11

the positive relationship you clearly have with his parents is a big plus, and suggests this is a new issue

Possibly, yes - or might it be that the family know he's found a money tree and are hoping some might come their way?

I'm not suggesting this is the case of course ... merely wondering if it could be

OverseastepMom · 06/11/2017 20:52

Thanks again cunningartificer :)

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cunningartificer · 08/11/2017 17:34

Good luck! Flowers

OverseastepMom · 03/12/2017 18:35

Update: So, he now has two jobs, the part-time job I mentioned and another job. He has had a successful interview for an even better job with an induction day this week and a start date of 1st Jan. In addition to this he has forged on with the house renovations.
He has been to see his friends and told them all about it and now the secret is out and we can move forward. (Obviously, the friends were shocked) He has had his first session of counselling too.
Already, he has begun to repay money spent. I am hoping that with the new year comes a new beginning. Everyone deserves a second chance and mental health is an illness that still has a stigma surrounding it.
The reason I am updating this post is because I am grateful to everyone who took the time to post and help me to reflect/get through a very challenging chapter. I wouldn't say we are completely out the other side, but I reflected on what all posters said and used it to help me gauge where I was at with the whole situation.
Thank you Mumsnetters :)

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riceuten · 03/12/2017 18:40

Based on the information you have provided here, he will continue to deceive and rip you off the longer you remain with him. Get yourself a good solicitor and leave. He’s probably still married and/or has kids as well.

Orlandointhewilderness · 03/12/2017 18:47

thanks for the update OP. The sad fact is that people make mistakes and get into messes. He sounds like he is bringing it out into the open and telling people while trying to make amends, which is a very good start.

good luck to you.

Pengggwn · 03/12/2017 18:51

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LineysRunner · 03/12/2017 18:55

Fuck waiting 12 months to start divorce proceedings. I'd go for annulment. He entered into this marriage full of lies and malicious intent. So - it's not a marriage.

But maybe that's just me.

LineysRunner · 03/12/2017 18:57

And I'm sorry to be harsh, OP, because you honestly sound like a sweetheart - but you can't fashion a rainbow's end out of a lie.

I have had mental health problems but I don't lie.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 03/12/2017 19:09

Already, he has begun to repay money spent is he doing that over and above paying 50% of your household expenses?

If not he is still a net taker, you are not out of the woods just yet!

Did you take legal advice? Have you secured the house, taken steps to reduce what he can lay claim to if/when you divorce?

If he is really trying to change he should have no problem agreeing to this... given his track record you have good reason to worry over it!

Iwanttobe8stoneagain · 03/12/2017 19:16

Eh, so he has managed to get himself 2 jobs in a very short space of time but not during the period you were dating, engaged and married? That’s lucky!

VladmirsPoutine · 03/12/2017 19:50

I'd consult a lawyer and think about how best to extricate myself from this with the least possible financial damage to yourself.

Love doesn't keep the heating on but if you want to keep paying his way by all means do so. But I wouldn't even trust him if he told me today was Sunday without first checking it myself.

OverseastepMom · 04/12/2017 16:33

CuriousaboutSamphire
He is paying all of the household bills. I have taken legal advice and as the house was bought in my name before we were married, it is my asset.

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 04/12/2017 18:08

I have taken legal advice and as the house was bought in my name before we were married, it is my asset. That really doesn't sound right! When you marry "I with thee my worldly goods endow" means all property becomes a joint asset. Are you sure?

Best of luck getting it all sorted!

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