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AIBU to consider trusting him?

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OverseastepMom · 03/11/2017 19:24

Three months into my marriage and I discover that my new husband hasn't done a day's work since the day that I met him. After dating for two years, commuting to see each other at weekends and then spending a week at each house to accommodate the stepchildren, I discover, to my absolute horror, that my husband hasn't done a day's work since the day we met!
How so, you may ask? I ask that myself too, over and over. It seems that he was freshly redundant when we first dated, had a grievance with employer and took them to court, obviously hoping to win- no such luck, so that takes him six months down the line without work and living off some income support/child benefit. At which point we have been dating six months and things going well. So then, some how or another, he survives, we go on holidays, we travel home to meet the parents etc etc. At which point I am showing off my new catch of whom I am extremely proud.A year on, we discuss marriage, both of us equally excited, he proposes, I say yes!
As we are both a little older and family are most important to us, we settle for a small overseas affair, my family and friends flying out. Throughout this time, much of wedding has gone on my card (more because I had handbag at the right time) and thought we were together forever, so things would even out, so not really keeping a running total.
To cut a long story short, I buy us a house and a visit from his old landlord illuminates the fact he is 6 months behind with rent- I go ballistic and ask how this could be- especially as he has savings. I pay this off, he promises to repay me. I had always known he earnt less than me, but just thought he was paying a lot out on step children costs.
After this event, he realises that he has lost my trust as I am livid that he hid his debts from me and life continues... until a week or so later, when he disappears. Anyway, his conscience has got the better of him and he realises that he can no longer live the lie. He messages me, he has travelled off to the mountains to clear his head and then in the same message explains that he has no job, hasn't had a job since the day that we met and has been 'shuffling money to survive!'
Well, had we not been married, I would have been out of there like a flash and not returned.
As I live overseas, I went to see in-laws, they were mortified and took my side.
So the upshot is- he's back! He has apologised. I have called him all the names under the sun. He has promised me that he will make it up to me. He has sold all of his worldly goods and is busily renovating the house that I bought us in a bid to show he is reformed, whilst applying for jobs. Credit where due, he is applying for anything and everything and has a part time job while still applying that covers the bills.
A good friend said to me this week- so do you really think it will all be over when he has a permanent job and is an equal and a professional again? I couldn't answer. I know what he has done in the last two years, loved me and lifted me up and made me feel alive. He has seen me through stressful times in my demanding job as I am overseas without family and we have had fun and made memories and I LOVE HIM.
His bad choices have totally screwed up my financial situation and there is no way that he can stand on his feet for a while nevermind pay of the 10K plus that he owes me...,
Can I really love and forgive a man who has lied for me for all of the time I have known him? Do I even know who he is???

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MrsTerryPratchett · 03/11/2017 20:31

What happened to his relationship with the mother of his children?

How come he was receiving CB?

Where were the children when he disappeared?

happystory · 03/11/2017 20:38

He lied. That's It. Whether to save his skin, or keep you, it doesn't matter - he lied big time and will do it again.

cunningartificer · 03/11/2017 20:43

It's not all about money. Losing a job is awful and people do try to hide itI completely see how that happened initially. I also see how you were carried away by proposal (though agree warning bells should have been ringing when it came to moneyhe must have some resources to have survived that long without work), and can imagine how it became impossible for him to confess. It's a big, big deal. BUT I am not sure that a manipulator would be working, trying to regain trust and frankly, he came back. He cares more about you than the bare story suggests as he is actually doing the uncomfortable stuff that comes with repentance. Yes, be wary, yes, be angry and keep talking, yes work it all out,but I would give him the chance to make it right. He has not brought nothing to this relationship if he has brought you joy and supported you emotionally. But if he blows this chance you may want to think again.

velouria · 03/11/2017 20:53

How could you live with someone on income support and not notice? It's not a great deal of money, did you just buy most things? Confused

OverseastepMom · 03/11/2017 20:53

cunningartificer

Thank you so much for taking the time to write this. This is where I think that I am with it right now. He knows he's on his first/last chance and has two interviews this week and has shifted the debts he accrued by selling all that he had of value. I believe that everyone deserves a second chance.

The thing that makes me sick to the stomach is the big lie as we were brought up to tell the truth!

Time will tell and he is moving in the right direction.

People get damaged in life and deserve someone to believe in them & he believed in me.

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Fluffyunicorns · 03/11/2017 20:54

Hi - reminds me so much of myself - met my ex and took on all the bills when we moved in together as his money could “not be taken out without notice” - Then got pregnant and stupidly decided I had to stay with him and wrote off the 40k he owed me as I persuaded myself he had meant no harm - on 12 years he has changed job 8 times and sued 2 sets of employers (I paid 30K in legal bills). Now out of work and making no effort to find a job while I work full time and do all the housework and childcare! Filed for divorce and he was awarded 50% of the equity in my house as he “needed it” according to the courts as he had no way of providing for himself and I had a job. He got a lump sum more than his whole contributions over the time we were together. I get no child support, he has moved in with his mother and is enjoying holidays in the Maldives. I could never ever trust your partner in that position he has lied to you over and over for years and the longer you are married the greater your exposure to great financial loss

OverseastepMom · 03/11/2017 20:55

He spent his savings & divorce settlement!

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OverseastepMom · 03/11/2017 20:59

Fluffyunicorns

Thank you for this.

The house is in my name- thankfully! Prior to this two years, he had a successful career. Fingers crossed he can get it back on track. I will take heed of your warning. In these situations you are torn between your heart and common sense.

I hope that you and children are happy

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overnightangel · 03/11/2017 21:01

At any point have you ever asked him upon meeting
“Where do you work?”
“What do you do?”
“Do you have any friends at work?”
“How was work today?”

Astounding

Puzzledandpissedoff · 03/11/2017 21:05

He spent his savings & divorce settlement!

Divorce settlement? You mean he's already taken a lump sum off somebody else?

MadgeMak · 03/11/2017 21:06

I don’t think it matters that the house is in your name, you are married now so all assets are shared.

OverseastepMom · 03/11/2017 21:08

25 years married to a teenage sweetheart and built house together. The children's mother. This is factual information and what he was entitled to.

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ButchyRestingFace · 03/11/2017 21:10

You could divorce him and then carry on seeing him if you wanted.

I don't understand how he didn't manage to find a job in those 2 years and then magically manages to find a part-time one once the game is rumbled?

Was he even looking during that time?

OverseastepMom · 03/11/2017 21:14

No he wasn't actively looking. He got depressed and obviously caught up in the lie. He is actually going out to this part time job and covering the bills and has signed up with agencies galore too.

Finding a job is the first step and then moving forward and building trust is next

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Lellikelly26 · 03/11/2017 21:14

The fact that he is actually working part time now and working on your home shows that he is making an effort. People can change if they can admit their faults and have some professional support. It will take you a long time to trust him again

OverseastepMom · 03/11/2017 21:21

Lellikelly26

Thank you for your support :)

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Worldsworstcook · 03/11/2017 21:34

You seem like a sensible who was temporarily duped but now you know the truth - make sure it's the whole truth - you can move forward.

A truly uninvolved husband would've just continued sailing off into the sunset. He's trying to make amends and I'm sure he realises that forgiveness will not come quickly or easily and if he's putting the work in to prove to you he's worth keeping ihes worth another try. You've come this far and while you seem unsure you don't seem ready to cut him off so you have a fighting chance if he sticks to his side of the bargain.
Deep down he should've realised though that once his family and friends were involved his secret life was bound to be exposed sooner rather than later. Just a pity he didn't confide in you instead of concealing his situation.

OverseastepMom · 03/11/2017 21:41

Worldsworstcook

Thank you so much! I know! His parents only more recently had suspicions when they bumped into him during working hours and him being able to attend all of the open events and sports events school had (which no normal annual leave allows)

It has floored us all! His parents have been really supportive of me (over him) and only agreed to give him the chance if it was my wish.

After the big shock, my first question was did he need to 'check in' somewhere and get some support and he said no, that would slow him down, he wanted to do it by himself and prove it to me.

Getting through this is about more than him paying me back, it's about him growing as a person and avoiding the 'burying head in sand' approach to problems.

He's been hurt and cheated on, this doesn't excuse his behaviour, but goes some way to explaining why his self-esteem was so low and how the lie began.

Time will tell!

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Tilikum · 03/11/2017 21:59

You husband has lied to you, in word and deed, every day for years and you're talking about getting through this and him growing as a person?!

He could have got a job at any point over the past two years, it would have probably been less effort than all the pretending to go to work he's been doing. A previous poster asked if your husband may have married you for visa reasons, do you think that might be true? He must have been expecting some huge payoff to have thought the effort of keeping this charade up for so long was worth it, and then he dropped it as soon as you are married and tied to him. It's very suspicious.

Protect yourself OP, don't fling good money after bad in an attempt to be a forgiving Mother Theresa, he has zero respect for you.

outofmydepth45 · 03/11/2017 22:11

If your married there is no paying back what's yours is his and vice versa surely. His debt is your debt.

Afternooncatnap · 03/11/2017 22:25

I don't want to sound negative as it seems you do want to make things work with him, but can you really trust him.

Do you know the things he told you about his past relationship, job and money situation to be 100% true.

Could there be a chance that this is a play. He just makes out he is wealthy and in a rough patch so he can spounge of his partner. You sound wealthy and were quick in paying for things without questioning his finances.

It's probably not the case but I think you should just have a good think about whether there is a chance he is just a sponger or worse a con man.

This effort he is making now could all just be false. He wins you back and then just goes back to pretending to work and living off you. And now that you are married half that house is his.

Also what was he really doing during the day for all that time. There could be more secrets. Do you really believe that for what 2/3 years he was just at the libary every day.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 04/11/2017 10:53

Could there be a chance that this is a play. He just makes out he is wealthy and in a rough patch so he can spounge of his partner. You sound wealthy and were quick in paying for things without questioning his finances

That's what I've been wondering all along Hmm

We can't know what the position is on claiming assets because we don't yet know which country is involved ... can you perhaps clarify that, OP?

BubblesPip · 04/11/2017 11:09

Woah! I can’t even believe that you’d consider forgiving him. I know I couldn’t. He has completely deceived you for your whole relationship. He has completely taken advantage of you and clearly has no respect for you. I’d be divorcing him asap and protecting your assets (the house may be in our name, but he’s married to you and technically has 50% of the house)

Altwoo · 04/11/2017 11:22

I can’t understand how he was the one to get a divorce settlement. Either she was a much higher earner, or he wasn’t working at all...does that sound familiar?

Givemeallthechocolate · 04/11/2017 11:29

Overseesstepmom,
Wow, just wow.
I can understand how this kind of thing happens, I have done similar for the past seven years with my absolutely wonderful-apart from money husband.

You just take the iniatative sometimes and it doesn't seem like you are put into situations where you are taken advantage of until it all fits into place.... I've done similar, oh, so you say I will get a better loan interest rate? Oh it'll save £5000 if it's in my name, you'll pay it though? You can definitely afford it? Signs on dotted line for a loan of £135000. We leave as he's talking about the saved money could pay for a long wanted holiday.
The end of that month I was paying for that loan when he applied for bankruptcy.

Ive paid for everything with access to my money whilst he's had money but squandered it elsewhere.

It sounds like you're not ready to let this go, which is perfectly understandable,

But do protect yourself. I would screenshot that text he sent you and print it and keep it in a safe place, should you need it, it may well help you if you divorce in future,

It certainly reads as though he got a payout from his ex wife?... maybe his intention is to get a payout from his second wife, what with the inability to financially support himself with a part time job and dwindled savings pot.

He's been a monumental idiot in omitting this truth to you, but if he is a changed character then I'd try to work through it, but I would want to see even a token gesture of that money he's borrowed being paid back or I would resent him.

Also, do see a solicitor, just for advice where you do stand if divorce were to be in the future.

I wish you luck, this isn't going to be easy to get past.