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MOH and hen do

162 replies

Unreasonableunreasonableness · 01/11/2017 16:00

Sorry this could get long, I will try to keep it short as possible. Name changed as this would be very outing.

I have an old friend I have known since I was about 13. We have kept up with each other sporadically through the years, especially as when adults we ended up living far apart (Scotland - mid England). Until recently we hadn't seen each other in nearly 10 years but have been in touch alot recently due to both having our first child.

He is getting married next year (to the mother of his child). She has significant mental health issues one of which is a tenancy to paranoia in friendship meaning that she has no one who she feels close to. I have some experience in this area. Because of this, my friend asked if I would be maid of honour for their wedding as he thought I would be supportive to her and be a calming influence on the day. She was in agreement btw.

I agreed but also said to him that the distance could make it difficult. Not least because I hadn't even met the bride, but also because as a sahm I had very little funds and no childcare so they would have to come to me. He agreed with this.

Since then me and the bride have chatted lots online sending pictures back and forth of suggestions and they also travelled down and i was able to meet her (on a day when another friend B of mine was visiting and she is now also involved in group chats).

Since then alot has started to be asked of me. Several meetups have been suggested, many of which I've had to say no to as they would have been expensive (going to events in London, needing a hotel stay) or needing childcare as children aren't able to go (nail art shows etc). The bride asked when we could go shopping and we arranged a wedding dress trip close to me but unfortunately had to cancel last minute as she was ill. I've always tried to suggest alternative suggestions that I can do, closer to home, when dh has a day off etc but none were taken up.

Bride then asks that i come to her for shopping for her and my bridesmaid dress and fittings and for the girls as she now wants my daughter to be flower girl. I'd have to stay in hotel for these as no room with them. She also wants a hen do of a spa day and shopping day in a far city (from both of us) needing two days of hotel stay. I keep trying to explain to her that I can't do these. I have no childcare and no money. I suggest again things that I can do e.g. I can stretch to the spa day but only if it is close to home and I don't have to pay for the hotel.

I find she is just not 'getting' it so I open up a chat with my friend (groom) and her to explain things. I then find he questions why I can't afford it - on paper we are alot better off than them. On the day we met up he and my dh had spoken about things like the whiskey he likes to drink etc and he says if dh can afford them why can I not afford to treat myself too? At that point I blew up and pointed out that all that they were asking would add up to well over £1500 and that's before we even get to hotel etc for the wedding day! It doesn't really compare to a bottle of £20 whiskey every month or so. I calmed and said that I am happy to be MOH still but that I can't do more than I have stated so if they want to find someone else who can do more then that is fine, that I will still come as a guest and even help her get ready on the day.

They went away and thought about it and said (unfortunately!?) that they do still want me to be MOH they just think that it's really sad that I'll be missing out on the bridesmaid treatment. We agreed that she will do her dress shopping up there, we would re think the hen do and I would shop around for dresses and send pictures as she doesn't want to do online. I asked for a budget for this and they said £30 as they can't afford more. I pointed out that tart is quite low for the full on bridesmaid style she is wanting but said I'd do my best. Since then she has continued to message telling me to go to various shops, most of which I don't have here and that I need to go asap as they have sales on NOW ado i am still feeling the pressure.

Now my aibu, friend B has obviously been witnessing all this. She says that I am being really unfair to be like this. That I wouldn't have wanted to shop for my wedding dress alone so it's mean to suggest that she do this. If I really tried I could probably manage to do these things but it would mean spending pretty much all our savings.

Soo.... aibu? Or are they?

OP posts:
2014newme · 02/11/2017 08:19

You don't know this woman. It was as to agree to this. You need to rescind the offer to be MOH.

2014newme · 02/11/2017 08:23

It doesn't matter that there is nobody else, there's no requirement to have a bridesmaid or MOH I didn't have them, lots of people don't.
Back out now this will get seriously problematic

Unreasonableunreasonableness · 02/11/2017 08:31

Ok I've sent a message to them both saying 'hi guys, just wanted to make sure we're all on the same page after the Other night ' then stating clearly what I can do. I added on a 'happy to drop out from being MOH if you find someone who is more available! '

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Unreasonableunreasonableness · 02/11/2017 08:32

I think you're right about waiting till after Christmas sales too. Tbh I'm looking at all the dresses on now and shivering!

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2014newme · 02/11/2017 08:37

I think you'd have been better to say you want to drop out. You're choosing to continue but all it's bringing is stress. You could make a different choice.

Doobigetta · 02/11/2017 08:38

I can't help bt feel really sad for someone who doesn't have ANYONE she actually knows she can ask to be MoH, but surely in that situation you just wouldn't have one? They aren't compulsory.

A word of caution on bridesmaid's dresses- I haven't followed all of the links, but I found when looking for mine that a huge number of them online at the lower end of the market- say less than £100- are from those Chinese sweatshops where the end product either never turns up or is massively different from the photo on the site, which they've usually nicked from somewhere else. Have you got one of the Oxfam bridal shops near you? That might be worth a go.

AMagdalena · 02/11/2017 08:52

YANBU

I always find it astonishing when a bride expects everyone to spend a small fortune not only to attend the wedding, but als on shopping trips and hen do's.
I am of the view that if you want to choose the activity and location etc. then pay for your friends! But I think that is a cultural difference in my case.
When I was getting married, my friend did some nibbles at ther house (I never asked her to), I insisted on paying for a couple of drinks for all the girls (there were 8 of us).
My MOH bought her own dress, but I never insisted on a particular style or colour.

I would have felt very uneasy knowing that any of my friends had to go without to attend my hen party.

In this case, the bride really needs to stop being such a princess, but I would definitely step away.
She is not even your friend, really!

Motoko · 02/11/2017 09:12

I don't know why you keep offering to pull out. They've already told you that they want you, and you've said they don't have anyone else to ask.

If you want to pull out, then do it.

It seems that the bride has been reading wedding magazines, and the organising and choosing products is as important as the day itself, hence her wanting to go to the nail art show. In her head, she's envisaging fun, girly days out, shopping for dresses etc and having a spa day, but the reality is, she has neither the budget, nor friends near enough, to fulfil those dreams.

I hope they change their behaviour, but if they put one more demand on you, just pull out.

Unreasonableunreasonableness · 02/11/2017 09:20

The nail art show was because she is a nail technician and I'm interested in that stuff so she thought it would be a fun day out. Not necessarily wedding related. But yes I think she has certain views that this is what you do for a wedding. And part of her mental illness is that once an idea has settled it sticks and can be difficult to shift. And i think that she doesn't really realise the practicality and cost of things as she doesn't generally deal with that. He is registered as her carer and generally deals with all that, is the main carer for their child. So i don't really blame her. But it doesn't make it less stressful having that insight...

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2014newme · 02/11/2017 09:27

Well good luck. I don't think continuing with this nonsense is the right thing to do but you want to so best if luck!

Appuskidu · 02/11/2017 11:53

I honestly think this is going to get much worse and you will be hundreds of pounds down. I had a work colleague in a similar position-she spen the best part of £1000 and the bride and groom don't speak to her at all now!

I would pull out asap.

NameChangeFamousFolk · 02/11/2017 12:01

You sound like such good egg, OP. They're lucky to have you (still) on board.

meltingmarshmallows · 02/11/2017 12:06

This is utterly bizarre. It’s like she’s trying to rent a MOH. I sympathise with her not having a big friend group but she should have in those circumstances just not had a MOH. It’s so strange to pick someone you’ve never met then make it super involved as if you’re BFFs. I would step away from this ASAP.

Slightlyperturbedowlagain · 02/11/2017 17:35

Ah now I see why it's such a dilemma for you. Perhaps you need to work out exactly what you are prepared/ to do and email a list to her.

Slightlyperturbedowlagain · 02/11/2017 17:35

*prepared/able

LoveProsecco · 02/11/2017 19:38

OP you sound lovely but I really think you should pull out. It doesn’t sound like you’re close to either of them and you’re expected to make time and monetary commitments that are a lot (even with what you agreed to!).

Italiangreyhound · 02/11/2017 21:03

So she has a child! But because her dp is the main carer for her and the child she is free to do whatever she likes?

It's all so odd, why is her partner not encouraging her to make local friends? She presumably does need someone local.

OP do what is right for you. Please keep us posted. XX Thanks

Unreasonableunreasonableness · 02/11/2017 22:18

Email was sent and they have responded that if that's my view and decision it's fine. But they feel sorry that I am not experiencing the full 'bridesmaid treatment ' because of it. Biting my tongue on my response to that but I seem to have gout through at last.

Thank you ladies. I feel so much better now I know I'm not going mad and being cruel and selfish.

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Italiangreyhound · 02/11/2017 22:26

stay strong. Go broken record if you need to.

I hope this works out OK for you. I know a lot of people said pull out but I also know it is not easy to do and part of this is you getting through this in the best way.

I am a bridesmaid next year, I am way too old for this shit, but flattered to be asked.

Please show us the dress, or a version of it, that you get. I am all ears (eyes)!!! Thanks

Breadwithgarlicon · 02/11/2017 23:29

Well done, OP. You sound lovely.
Boundaries are your friends.
Flowers

Mummyoflittledragon · 03/11/2017 05:12

It sounds perhaps as if they are miffed. But that should have no affect on you. You made your position very clear before signing up to the position. Good on you for standing up for yourself.

ChasedByBees · 03/11/2017 07:24

'Full bridesmaid treatment' to me sounds like something you don't have to pay for. If they want/demand all these extras then they should pay for it. They also have no right to query your spending and suggest it should be spent on their event. If they make some OTT demand again, I'd use it as an opportunity to back out.

FenceSitter01 · 03/11/2017 07:46

I wouldn't be involved in this charade at all - and your friend - wow - what his life going to be like with his choice of bride?

SheffieldStealer · 03/11/2017 12:17

I think it’s more that they’re disappointed that the bride isn’t getting ‘the full bride treatment’, complete with fun girly days out and hand maiden attendance. Which is sad, but that kind of bridesmaid/maid of honour running around to shoe shops and spas can only be given freely, out of love for a good mate. If it’s not, then it’s an actual chore.

Appuskidu · 03/11/2017 12:18

I think you're mad continuing with this! I predict you will end up spending a fortune and falling out with both of them! When is the wedding?