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MOH and hen do

162 replies

Unreasonableunreasonableness · 01/11/2017 16:00

Sorry this could get long, I will try to keep it short as possible. Name changed as this would be very outing.

I have an old friend I have known since I was about 13. We have kept up with each other sporadically through the years, especially as when adults we ended up living far apart (Scotland - mid England). Until recently we hadn't seen each other in nearly 10 years but have been in touch alot recently due to both having our first child.

He is getting married next year (to the mother of his child). She has significant mental health issues one of which is a tenancy to paranoia in friendship meaning that she has no one who she feels close to. I have some experience in this area. Because of this, my friend asked if I would be maid of honour for their wedding as he thought I would be supportive to her and be a calming influence on the day. She was in agreement btw.

I agreed but also said to him that the distance could make it difficult. Not least because I hadn't even met the bride, but also because as a sahm I had very little funds and no childcare so they would have to come to me. He agreed with this.

Since then me and the bride have chatted lots online sending pictures back and forth of suggestions and they also travelled down and i was able to meet her (on a day when another friend B of mine was visiting and she is now also involved in group chats).

Since then alot has started to be asked of me. Several meetups have been suggested, many of which I've had to say no to as they would have been expensive (going to events in London, needing a hotel stay) or needing childcare as children aren't able to go (nail art shows etc). The bride asked when we could go shopping and we arranged a wedding dress trip close to me but unfortunately had to cancel last minute as she was ill. I've always tried to suggest alternative suggestions that I can do, closer to home, when dh has a day off etc but none were taken up.

Bride then asks that i come to her for shopping for her and my bridesmaid dress and fittings and for the girls as she now wants my daughter to be flower girl. I'd have to stay in hotel for these as no room with them. She also wants a hen do of a spa day and shopping day in a far city (from both of us) needing two days of hotel stay. I keep trying to explain to her that I can't do these. I have no childcare and no money. I suggest again things that I can do e.g. I can stretch to the spa day but only if it is close to home and I don't have to pay for the hotel.

I find she is just not 'getting' it so I open up a chat with my friend (groom) and her to explain things. I then find he questions why I can't afford it - on paper we are alot better off than them. On the day we met up he and my dh had spoken about things like the whiskey he likes to drink etc and he says if dh can afford them why can I not afford to treat myself too? At that point I blew up and pointed out that all that they were asking would add up to well over £1500 and that's before we even get to hotel etc for the wedding day! It doesn't really compare to a bottle of £20 whiskey every month or so. I calmed and said that I am happy to be MOH still but that I can't do more than I have stated so if they want to find someone else who can do more then that is fine, that I will still come as a guest and even help her get ready on the day.

They went away and thought about it and said (unfortunately!?) that they do still want me to be MOH they just think that it's really sad that I'll be missing out on the bridesmaid treatment. We agreed that she will do her dress shopping up there, we would re think the hen do and I would shop around for dresses and send pictures as she doesn't want to do online. I asked for a budget for this and they said £30 as they can't afford more. I pointed out that tart is quite low for the full on bridesmaid style she is wanting but said I'd do my best. Since then she has continued to message telling me to go to various shops, most of which I don't have here and that I need to go asap as they have sales on NOW ado i am still feeling the pressure.

Now my aibu, friend B has obviously been witnessing all this. She says that I am being really unfair to be like this. That I wouldn't have wanted to shop for my wedding dress alone so it's mean to suggest that she do this. If I really tried I could probably manage to do these things but it would mean spending pretty much all our savings.

Soo.... aibu? Or are they?

OP posts:
Laceup · 01/11/2017 16:38

Withdraw from moh duties...why on earth did you accept this....

sinceyouask · 01/11/2017 16:39

Crikey. YANBU. They are BU. Friend B is BVU. Suggest she takes over as MoH!

Justmuddlingalong · 01/11/2017 16:40

She literally has no friends? Who's going to the wedding?

Mummyoflittledragon · 01/11/2017 16:40

If they want you to go to them, they accommodate you at a convenient time either at their place or parents etc or pay for your accommodation. They’re changing the goal posts. Ya deffo not bu. I’d continue as you are. It sounds very strange that they’re so willing to spend your money on them but not theirs on you. And I wouldn’t spend anymore than you can afford. If she doesn’t come to you, you won’t have a dress and won’t be able to be moh.

Andylion · 01/11/2017 16:43

I hope this doesn't sound unkind, but if the bride doesn't have friends close enough to be her MoH, who will be invited to the hen?

On the day we met up he and my dh had spoken about things like the whiskey he likes to drink etc and he says if dh can afford them why can I not afford to treat myself too?
Spending money you don't have on your friend's wedding is hardly treating yourself.

Especially now they've come back and said that they definitely want me and there's no one else!
Then, if they are so desperate, tell them you are only willing to do it under such and such circumstances, (whatever suits you and you can afford).

Andylion · 01/11/2017 16:43

OK, I see the answer to the hen question.

GreenTulips · 01/11/2017 16:44

OP I have lots of friends, I went wedding dress shopping with the kids (happen to pass the shop with them) no hen do as twins were babies, no nail art, bridesmaids were given a budget and they fetched the dresses themselves, other than that people turned up on the day!

Think she wants more than she's prepared to give

WipsGlitter · 01/11/2017 16:47

I agree that being MOH for an old but distant friends bride to be is seriously, seriously odd.

letsmargaritatime · 01/11/2017 16:52

Oh my god no, don’t let yourself be guilted into this any further. Even if you have to make up a huge whopping fib and say you have to pull out for your own mental health as you’re overwhelmed/ have PND/ whatever you have to say just say it. These aren’t reasonable people who will listen to reason. You have been so kind and they have the cheek to say unfortunately you are still their best choice?!

GET. OUT. NOW.

Rafflesway · 01/11/2017 16:57

Hmm, I agree with others. I think you definitely need to politely - but firmly - decline now before you are committing monies any further.

Your dress hasn’t been bought yet so NOW is the ideal time.

How would the dress be paid for by the way? Unless you have been sent the money in advance I’m sorry to say that I wouldn’t 100% trust them to reimburse you. I think that’s the reason they have given you a totally unrealistic budget of £30 🤔. Deep down I think they are expecting you to pay!

Whether you can afford it if not is not the issue IMO. What you choose to spend YOUR money on is entirely YOUR business and your so called friend was a CF for mentioning the conversation with your husband regarding his odd treat of a £20 bottle of whisky.

Get out now would be my advice! Yes, it will probably end the friendship but it’s not as if you have been massively close for many years.

squeaver · 01/11/2017 16:59

Honestly, this is one one of the most bizarre situations I have ever seen on Mumsnet (and that's saying something!)

I agree with others: if friend B has such strong opinions on it and is close enough to now be going to the hen do, she should take over. Is that a possibility?

Nocabbageinmyeye · 01/11/2017 17:07

Just back out, you don't even know her and he was off the scene for years so neither will be a big loss. To be honest it's totally weird you were asked in the first place

"dear x and y, when I took the moh role I told you I wouldn't be able to travel /afford much, I was completely up front with you but you both seem to have forgotten this. I am no longer going to be in the wedding party, I am beginning to resent the pressure being put on me and I resent being asked to account for my husband and I spending. I wish you both well, I doubt you will understand but hope that you will, my decision is final"

Weirdos

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Italiangreyhound · 01/11/2017 17:26

Unreasonableunreasonableness "Now my aibu, friend B has obviously been witnessing all this. She says that I am being really unfair to be like this. ..I could probably manage to do these things but it would mean spending pretty much all our savings."

Soo.... aibu? Or are they?

(I really thought this would end with your friend, B, supporting you, I am GOBSMAKED she has not!)

THEY are being unreasonable. Friend B should be looking out for you and not encouraging you to spend money to help a woman, you barely know, to have a good time.

I would either step away now, explaining this has all gotten out of hand and not what you agreed to... or....

I, personally would write one email outlining what you can do, choose a cheap dress which you will get and they will pay for (if that is the what has been arranged) and the hen do you can afford to do, so all things you can afford and are willing to do.

Then what else you are willing to do (help her on day), if anything.

Before sending email I would speak to your friend (B) and explain you are disappointed at her lack of loyalty to you. Maybe she will end up stepping in and being the MOH that seems to be required!

Also speak to the groom and explain what seems to have happened is your kind act of friendship has been trampled on by all three of them and you are hurt. It is no one els's business what your dh drinks and no one should encourage you to spend money you do not have or have saved up to make someone else's wedding day special.

Then send your email and see what happens.

BUT only do this if you want to do it. If not, step away now.

If you do it then any deviation from what you state you are happy to do. Step away. Life is too short!

I am a heartless bitch but I think you need to be preserving yourself, this is too much!

DrKrogersfavouritepatient · 01/11/2017 17:27

Good grief. Extract yourself from this situation.
The groom's seems a bit controlling and the bride is not a friend of yours and seems overly demanding

DrKrogersfavouritepatient · 01/11/2017 17:31

I do feel sorry for the bride though. It looks as though she's craving those activities and she's overly invested in your involvement in order to make that happen.

Italiangreyhound · 01/11/2017 17:33

Sorry this is my favourite green!

lovely, maybe I should offer my services!

Slightlyperturbedowlagain · 01/11/2017 17:40

I think it's easy to work out why she doesn't have any other friends to go on her hen night Shock

Italiangreyhound · 01/11/2017 17:44

It is hard to back out of things, but sometimes it is best. What do you want to do op?

Italiangreyhound · 01/11/2017 17:49

Can I ask when the wedding is?

If you had another year of this I would feel more tempted to step away, of it were not too long I'd just be very firm about what I can do and nothing else. Plus I'd be tempted to cut friend B loose!

Petalflowers · 01/11/2017 18:02

The only duty where perhaps it would have been good to accomade her was the wedding dress shopping trip. That could have been turned in a shopping girly hen type event. The rest is unreasonable, and demanding, especially as she isn't even your friend!

£30 for a bridesmaid dress!

Unreasonableunreasonableness · 01/11/2017 18:05

It's only till spring time so I think I'll cope. Honestly I'm feeling a bit like it's been too much hassle already and I wish they had taken my out opportunity lol but I think I'm going to try to see it through.

I think sending the email is a great idea cos then at least I can remind them of it if they move away from what was agreed.

I was thinking of offering to add a bit of money to the dress budget as their wedding present. Partly as I thought it could make it easier for me!

OP posts:
Italiangreyhound · 01/11/2017 18:11

Do whatever is right for you. I would personally just send them a link to what you can get for thirty quid. If they up the budget thenselemes, their call.

Can I ask roughly your size? And the colour scheme?

I think you could find something nice for 30 quid but then I am easily pleased! I am a bridesmaid next year!

I was a bridesmaid almost 20 years ago and I think I never wore the dress again!

I'd advise you keep your precious pennies for drinks at the hen do!

If they want you to look fancier they can up the dress budget IMHO.

But your call.

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