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to vent my frustrations re: working from home

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AllRightNowInFactItsAGas · 01/11/2017 15:14

Sorry - nobody i can talk to IRL.

I have a small/growing business and have moved it forwards enough to have staff who do most of the on-site work and a full-time person to help me manage the day-to-day communications with customers and staff.

I cannot afford an actual office so myself and that person work remotely from home but obviously we share access to the systems we have etc. Sometimes one of us or the other will go out and cover work on-site, this is at least a couple of times a week for both of us and sometimes we both have to leave the office for site work all week and then catch up as we can, for me this is in the evenings and weekends but i cannot afford my colleague after hours so she just sticks to her week days. We both work quite intensively when we are in our respective home offices and communicate a lot throughout the days. So there's no real need for the expense of an office - except for this one which I am resenting to the point of exploding ...

Every frigging time I sit down at my work station to concentrate and my dh is around he will pretend I am not working and talk over whatever it is I'm trying to get my head around. Then I have to start the whole thought process again each time he does it but with additional anger and stress. I make mistakes that I shouldn't make because to him, I am not at work I am there in plain sight. to talk to!

He does not want to talk to me much if i am not working but will not stop talking to me if he can see that I am. It's like he feels left out and must distract my attention back to him. I've told him and told him but he cannot stop and says I am rude to say 'shhh' and then makes a big fuss until I've got cross and forgotten the task and then this causes issues at work because i should have completed the task.

I've even tried talking back over him ie reading aloud from my job list and muttering to myself about it, or reading out the figures I am calculating so he will visibly 'see' I am working because just the mute act of working peacefully is invisible to him. I am just there to talk to and joke with if I am quiet but nothing works, he still tries to interrupt my thoughts. I've told him so often how tiring it is and how i'm trying to build our company but it's so hard with him distracting me during work times. He seems to agree but just does it anyway when he feels like talking to me.

He is a partner in the business but I set it up and I set all the systems of work etc, he cannot figure out the business side so that is my job, he is great in a practical sense on-site and for any practical, physical support we need like delivering supplies etc but he has to leave the business end to myself and my colleague because he has not interest in that side. I've been in this industry for over 20 years and have a lot of industry related knowledge that he is not interested in but he is good at things other than the business side and I have my colleague for that.

Today me and him were both headed out on-site, him driving , so i called my colleague as always to take care of a few things and help her handle a difficult client, there were several items to discuss the management of and after the call (all during our car journey) he said 'You have been NATTERING for an hour.'

There are SO many things wrong with that statement. Firstly the journey was only half an hour anyway, secondly, all the issues needed fully addressing whatever his objections and mainly, his choice of word 'nattering' for us thrashing out urgent business matters.

I said it was completely disrespectful to reduce our conversations down to women 'nattering' and he held firm, carried on ranting at me that a lot of it was just gossip. I asked for one example as it had all felt pretty pressures to me. He said 'One of the client's is just nonsense to deal with and we should get rid of him instead of all this' I told him that colleague and I were perfectly happy to manage difficult clients thank you very much and that us discussing this does not make it 'nattering '. It's serious business and we need to get on with it all, he said that I had brought up things from the past that the same client had said and done, so that's just gossiping, I told him she had to have all the facts in order to handle him correctly. Anyway i was so cross because NONE of this is for him to be dealing with and other than being in the car too, there was no need for him to have an opinion on the conversation or the length of it.

Top and bottom is I was in tears of frustration, and although he ended up saying sorry, i am sick of it and don't want him to interrupt or belittle my work in any way shape or form ever again. Especially since he directly benefits from the long hours i am putting in with increasing household income.

I could be working right now but decided to vent here instead as I now can't concentrate for feeling upset.

Am I over-reacting? He thinks I am although he did seem sorry but inly because I was upset for hours did he finally back down. He said it was because he is 'tired'. Maybe I am over-reacting though?

I just feel so belittled sometimes. What is going on?

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Slimthistime · 01/11/2017 16:54

OP he will just barge into a quiet space.

this is a DH problem, not anything else.

Spudlet · 01/11/2017 16:54

We are looking into converting a standard garden shed into an office for DH - he currently works 3 days a week from the end of our bedroom, which is not ideal at all. A readymade garden office is expensive, but we think we can do a good job of converting a standard 6x8 shed (insulation, better windows and door, plasterboard, heat, light, power and wifi, proper flooring - the whole lot) for half the price (we've got some handy DIYers in the family!). Might be worth looking into for you.

AllRightNowInFactItsAGas · 01/11/2017 16:54

And agree he is minimising my role to feel more 'manly'

Where is the 'pathetic' emoticon?

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AllRightNowInFactItsAGas · 01/11/2017 16:56

Reanimated Grin at tripping over his dick

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ftw · 01/11/2017 16:57

Has he always done the interfering in driving thing? Because that sounds like it’s not about the business at all it’s about him knowing more than you across the board. He’s treating you like a little girl, not like someone who had to pass the same driving test he did to get a licence.

ftw · 01/11/2017 16:57

By which I mean a garden office or headphones won’t be the solution.

Inertia · 01/11/2017 16:58

Sounds like it would be more sensible for your business if he went out and worked elsewhere , and you got someone else on an ad-hoc basis to do deliveries etc. You can't afford for him to wreck your business, and I'd consider his suitability as a director.

ReanimatedSGB · 01/11/2017 16:58

It is very difficult to maintain a relationship with a man who can't get free of the idea that women are inferior to men and should be serving and obeying them rather than employing them, out-earning them and being more successful than them...

GingerAndPrickles · 01/11/2017 17:03

I think he is very insecure and needs to feel important.
It sound as though he needs to feel more important than you. Which is certainly a problem if you have to work together (not to mention being a problem for your relationship).

RunRabbitRunRabbit · 01/11/2017 17:14

You are kind of putting yourself into the subservient woman role when challenged.

He interfered with your driving. Touched the indicators! You rolled over and let the big man do all the driving. Instead of giving the response he would have got from another man: Fuck off, do that again and you are leaving the car.

He made his stupid comment about nattering and you engaged in a long conversation justifying yourself and trying to get him to admit he was wrong. If I read correctly then you did this on both legs of the journey. That's not what a man, his boss would have done. His nattering comment should have been met with one of two reactions. Firstly (and best imo): totally ignored, change the subject, ask him a question about the job you are going to or something. Secondly, only to be used if he persists in having a go: "And that comment shows why I'm in charge of the business sweetheart. You handle HisThing and I handle the clients."

Would a male boss have started crying in the car because an employee was being a tit? Shut it down long before that.

As for home, big headphones, be rude, go out to Costa if needed. However , in my line of work my immediate reaction would be that that interrupter clearly hasn't got enough work to do, especially not enough work away from me and I'd make sure there was more work elsewhere.

whoareyoukidding · 01/11/2017 17:17

I agree with the others who say that he is attempting to sabotage your work. And yes, I think it is about feeling insecure. I also agree that you need to change the way you engage with him when he starts deliberately ruining your work interactions.

TalkinBoutWhat · 01/11/2017 17:20

RunRabbit has it spot on.

Also, go and buy yourself a nerf gun. Everytime he interrupts you, shoot him....

RandomMess · 01/11/2017 17:30

Start labelling his behaviour “stop sabotaging my work time, I do not exist to entertain you when you’re bored”

And so on...

mickeysminnie · 01/11/2017 18:00

Can I ask HOW he became a partner in the business? You seem to being the know how, what did he bring to the table?

ownedbySWD · 01/11/2017 18:06

Why is he even at home during the day and able to disturb you? Shouldn't he be working somewhere, or does he work from home as well?

picklemepopcorn · 01/11/2017 18:26

Write him a letter saying that you don’t want to argue, but certain things he is doing are making you very angry. Say you've always respected him and appreciated his input, but that is starting to change because of how he behaves. Explain why. Point out that you are at breaking point and starting to resent him and not like him because of how he minimises your role.

Explain some new systems, like these:

Stick a sign hanging around your neck saying 'Go away I’m working'.

Every time he interrupts say 'go away I’m working'.

In the car, drive again but tell him if he touches the controls he’ll have to sit in the back because he can’t be trusted in the front.

AllRightNowInFactItsAGas · 01/11/2017 21:51

Thank you so much to all who replied to me!

I was so upset but have had wine now so am settled but not before I have raised said issue again and extracted sincere apology and understanding of how his 'ego' made me feel.

He did accept what I said and apologised and I didn't accept without raising that I find it hard and do not expect to run against his ego. I need him on my side not against because of 'issues' he may have about me knowing more. Told him to go work somewhere else if he feels intimidated by my need to earn a living!

He said he's genuinely sorry, was childish, does respect me and will never repeat these behaviours!

I told him I'd reconsidered our marriage and it best be the truth!

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AllRightNowInFactItsAGas · 01/11/2017 22:21

Also - thank you RunrRabbit I agree with what you said! I'm here to learn and thank you, this has struck a chord with me. Thought I was a true professional but not where dh is concerned!

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AllRightNowInFactItsAGas · 01/11/2017 22:23

Ps. I do think you would have liked my last conversation with him, but then, as to the true out-come - watch this space!

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IfYouGoDownToTheWoodsToday · 01/11/2017 22:39

You are certainly not being unreasonable in thinking his behaviour is bloody outrageous! He has seen today how much he has upset you. Use this to have a proper meeting about his behaviour tomorrow. Just tell him if he speaks to you like that again, you’ll be off!

Dh and I work together, from home, we do have an office each and I really wouldnt have it any other way, so I do think you should do that. But nieither of us would speak as your H did. You are supposed to be supporting and encouraging each other!

IfYouGoDownToTheWoodsToday · 01/11/2017 22:40

X posted with you. Glad you’ve had a chat!

AllRightNowInFactItsAGas · 01/11/2017 22:53

Thank you so much Ifyougodown

Thank you to every single one of you! I needed this boost to let me know I wasn't just being a cow.

I am still upset but am determined to just start again tomorrrow and press on with the business as it is but I did consider hiring him out today! Seriously he is very good at what he does but i think we would survive without him!

As per marriage, he has his really strong points, but he lets me down this way! I wish he was happy in himself!

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ReanimatedSGB · 01/11/2017 23:39

Well, good luck. But if the behaviour continues, chuck him out of the partnership. You are not obliged to stroke his ego to the point of it wrecking your business. And if he gets a job elsewhere but still carries on trying to undermine you and keep you in your place, then chuck him out of the marriage.
Far too many smart, talented, hardworking women have their careers fucked up by the inadequate men they are involved with.

AllRightNowInFactItsAGas · 01/11/2017 23:45

Reanimated , thank you so much for this help and support!

I agree with everything you've said and I do want to fly forward not be held back by someone's massive ego just because they have a dick!

Thank you for clearing my head - all of you!

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user1499333856 · 02/11/2017 00:09

Headphones.

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