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to vent my frustrations re: working from home

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AllRightNowInFactItsAGas · 01/11/2017 15:14

Sorry - nobody i can talk to IRL.

I have a small/growing business and have moved it forwards enough to have staff who do most of the on-site work and a full-time person to help me manage the day-to-day communications with customers and staff.

I cannot afford an actual office so myself and that person work remotely from home but obviously we share access to the systems we have etc. Sometimes one of us or the other will go out and cover work on-site, this is at least a couple of times a week for both of us and sometimes we both have to leave the office for site work all week and then catch up as we can, for me this is in the evenings and weekends but i cannot afford my colleague after hours so she just sticks to her week days. We both work quite intensively when we are in our respective home offices and communicate a lot throughout the days. So there's no real need for the expense of an office - except for this one which I am resenting to the point of exploding ...

Every frigging time I sit down at my work station to concentrate and my dh is around he will pretend I am not working and talk over whatever it is I'm trying to get my head around. Then I have to start the whole thought process again each time he does it but with additional anger and stress. I make mistakes that I shouldn't make because to him, I am not at work I am there in plain sight. to talk to!

He does not want to talk to me much if i am not working but will not stop talking to me if he can see that I am. It's like he feels left out and must distract my attention back to him. I've told him and told him but he cannot stop and says I am rude to say 'shhh' and then makes a big fuss until I've got cross and forgotten the task and then this causes issues at work because i should have completed the task.

I've even tried talking back over him ie reading aloud from my job list and muttering to myself about it, or reading out the figures I am calculating so he will visibly 'see' I am working because just the mute act of working peacefully is invisible to him. I am just there to talk to and joke with if I am quiet but nothing works, he still tries to interrupt my thoughts. I've told him so often how tiring it is and how i'm trying to build our company but it's so hard with him distracting me during work times. He seems to agree but just does it anyway when he feels like talking to me.

He is a partner in the business but I set it up and I set all the systems of work etc, he cannot figure out the business side so that is my job, he is great in a practical sense on-site and for any practical, physical support we need like delivering supplies etc but he has to leave the business end to myself and my colleague because he has not interest in that side. I've been in this industry for over 20 years and have a lot of industry related knowledge that he is not interested in but he is good at things other than the business side and I have my colleague for that.

Today me and him were both headed out on-site, him driving , so i called my colleague as always to take care of a few things and help her handle a difficult client, there were several items to discuss the management of and after the call (all during our car journey) he said 'You have been NATTERING for an hour.'

There are SO many things wrong with that statement. Firstly the journey was only half an hour anyway, secondly, all the issues needed fully addressing whatever his objections and mainly, his choice of word 'nattering' for us thrashing out urgent business matters.

I said it was completely disrespectful to reduce our conversations down to women 'nattering' and he held firm, carried on ranting at me that a lot of it was just gossip. I asked for one example as it had all felt pretty pressures to me. He said 'One of the client's is just nonsense to deal with and we should get rid of him instead of all this' I told him that colleague and I were perfectly happy to manage difficult clients thank you very much and that us discussing this does not make it 'nattering '. It's serious business and we need to get on with it all, he said that I had brought up things from the past that the same client had said and done, so that's just gossiping, I told him she had to have all the facts in order to handle him correctly. Anyway i was so cross because NONE of this is for him to be dealing with and other than being in the car too, there was no need for him to have an opinion on the conversation or the length of it.

Top and bottom is I was in tears of frustration, and although he ended up saying sorry, i am sick of it and don't want him to interrupt or belittle my work in any way shape or form ever again. Especially since he directly benefits from the long hours i am putting in with increasing household income.

I could be working right now but decided to vent here instead as I now can't concentrate for feeling upset.

Am I over-reacting? He thinks I am although he did seem sorry but inly because I was upset for hours did he finally back down. He said it was because he is 'tired'. Maybe I am over-reacting though?

I just feel so belittled sometimes. What is going on?

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Autumnskiesarelovely · 01/11/2017 16:11

Now you’ve got it off your chest, first step.
Next step, be really clear, just tell him, from this hour to that hour, you need to concentrate. Simple!

Jaxhog · 01/11/2017 16:11

I'm with you Op. I've worked from home for over 14 years, and my DH still thinks its ok to pop in and chat. He gets all upset and sniffy when I tell him (through gritted teeth) that I'm working! I have my own office at home and try and keep the door closed. But it gets quite stuffy, so this isn't always possible.

My solution? I have noise cancelling headphones which I put on when I need to focus. If he tries to interrupt me, I just shout 'teleconference' and it seems to do the trick.

JigglyTuff · 01/11/2017 16:12

I honestly think it’s impossible to work professionally from home unless you have a dedicated office. Particularly when you’re sharing your home with someone who seems determined to undermine and sabotage you.

whiskyowl · 01/11/2017 16:13

He sounds incredibly annoying, insensitive and passive-aggressive. Actually, I'm upgrading that to just plain aggressive, since you've told him you need peace and quiet and he's talking over you.

To be honest, it sounds like you are very proficient and good at your job, and he is threatened by that. he clearly doesn't understand running a business - he probably thinks that it consists of barking orders like "block here" and "slab there" at people rather than actual management.

I think something like having a lockable office would work - but surely one shouldn't have to lock one's life partner out of a room in order to get them to respect a need for peace and quiet? The problem here is much deeper than one with a spatial solution: he is simply not listening to you, not reacting to your requests, and being disrespectful of your talents. I would be drawing a line in the sand and telling him if he didn't get his act together, I'd be leaving.

Ifearthecold · 01/11/2017 16:14

He is out of line with his behaviour, headphones are a short term solution maybe ? My DH no longer has an office space at home and will sometimes go out to Starbucks etc to do a couple of hours work undisturbed, the DC at the age of 9 know not to interact with him if he is working but their play can be distracting and loud. Do you think your DH has an issue with your success ?

AllRightNowInFactItsAGas · 01/11/2017 16:15

Thanks guys, you've made me smile again.

Shifty you are my hero! Grin

I am soo tempted to do the performance review!

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BorisTrumpsHair · 01/11/2017 16:15

wow he really can't STAND not having you full attention can he? I'm not surprised you are enraged and upset with him OP.

YY to carving out some proper working space.

As for the nattering - does he often come out with sexist tripe? That can be hard to recover from - as in it's difficult to keep wanting to have sex with someone who is so disparaging about women. Big turn off IMO.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 01/11/2017 16:17

Just wondering about the environment you work in at home, OP. Do you have a dedicated 'office' or 'office space' or are you just at the kitchen table? It might him to respect your boundaries a bit more if it's more 'official' if you see what I mean.

Agree with earlier poster who suggested going into a room with a lockable door and locking him out, he sounds like a complete attention-seeking pain in the bum!

Or could you go to a coffee shop with Wifi for a couple of hours?

That comment in the car about 'nattering' would have been the red mist for me... Angry

Ermm · 01/11/2017 16:17

He’s a dick. Threatened by your success, cant cope with you being more competent - all those cliches....

KarateKitten · 01/11/2017 16:18

It's not the lack of office that's the problem....

AllRightNowInFactItsAGas · 01/11/2017 16:22

Humphrey - I know! I just could not believe the rudeness and brass neck of it! NATTERING ffs!! Shock

Autumn - You are right, I am ready for the next step. In fact - i was born ready Grin

Headphone sound good everyone! Jax I love 'teleconference' Grin.

Oh good job I came here, my spirits are raising now.

Also, on the serious note, I do think he's a bit threatened by my ability to run the business being the 'man' and all that. I tell you what, I wish he could/would do it too and take some of it off me. He probably feels that too! I think this is an ego thing for sure.

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TheABC · 01/11/2017 16:26

Performance review for sure, OP. And a lockable door to your new office. With headphones!

Congratulations on successfully pushing your business forward and I hope it continues to expand.

MrTrebus · 01/11/2017 16:28

Definitely an ego thing OP, you sound very head strong and ambitious and like a bad Apprentice contestant he is jealous! Lay down the law, I'm glad he does other stuff round the house at least but come on!! He is an adult and you should be able to say to him and have him listen "I am working go away".

BewareOfDragons · 01/11/2017 16:29

He's undermining you.

It sounds like he feels threatened by your success as a woman. And he's trying to one up you as the man.

How sad and pathetic.

I would have lost a tremendous amount of respect for him at this point and it would be jeopardizing our relationship.

ijustwannadance · 01/11/2017 16:33

Does he actually need to be a partner in your business? Is he taking a wage? Can he fuck off and get a different job instead to stop him being bored and getting in the way?
Sounds like he hates not being the 'man' in the marriage and is trying to belittle you.

Lock your office door.

AllRightNowInFactItsAGas · 01/11/2017 16:35

It seems I was not wrong to be so upset and angry.

I talked about it all the way home and he was contrite but at the same time said I was over-reacting which made me frustrated again.

He also tried a bit of gas-lighting saying he hadn't said certain things - he'd actually said (better version of those things), I just said 'I KNOW what has been said today!!'

He did end up being sorry and super nice to me. I am going to look at all suggestions to make this stop now as I work hard for us and deserve support.

I want a man not a boy!

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pinkyredrose · 01/11/2017 16:36

He's rather sexist isn't he. Bet he wouldn't interfere with a man driving or tell a man he's nattering. Do you really need him in the business?

pinkyredrose · 01/11/2017 16:40

Men never get told they're 'over reacting'.

Slimthistime · 01/11/2017 16:44

when you started your post, I wondered why you didn't just tell him to SHUT UP (a la all the Taylor Swifts).

Then I saw he was a partner in the business and my heart sank. I don't think you can run a business with him, regardless of where you are. He certainly has no respect for your role in the business even if you are in charge.

allthgoodusernamesaretaken · 01/11/2017 16:47

I think you need dedicated work space eg study, convert the garage or rent an office. Most people can't work from home by sitting at the kitchen table

Mummyoflittledragon · 01/11/2017 16:49

My first question is did he have to be with you? You can hold conversations on hands free while driving. Or perhaps if he weren’t always hovering around, you’d have tha 1/2 hour spare to talk when not travelling.

Could you give your dh jobs to do, which seem important ?

annandale · 01/11/2017 16:50

Headphones. With a cable. And a bluetooth headset or whatever. If he speaks casually to you, first ignore him, then if he escalates make a big deal of untangling yourself, look at him and ask 'do you need me?' If he comes up with something non-urgent, say 'I'll be free at 1" turn away and retangle yourself.

He WILL escalate so you need to think how you will handle that. Could you work at your colleague's house sometimes? You could swap over Wink

In extremis, could you go and sit in the car? At least you can lock it.

AllRightNowInFactItsAGas · 01/11/2017 16:52

Ha - yes, loving all these suggestions to get a quiet space!

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Standingcat · 01/11/2017 16:52

I WFH a lot, currently I am in a quiet pub to get some peace as my DD is back from school. There is a bloke on a laptop in another corner also working.

Get out of the house on your own to work? Wetherspoons are great places to work from as they don't play music, have free wifi and a new APP that means that you don't need even get out of your chair to order food and drink.

Personally in your shoes I would get a separate work space, even if its the spare bedroom/garage and make it yours. Banish him from this space.

If he isn't playing an active role in the business can you send him out to work? send him out on errands or just stop engaging him in work at all?

ReanimatedSGB · 01/11/2017 16:53

You need to get him out of the business before he wrecks it. He is quite deliberately undermining you, probably because he believes, deep down, that working for his female partner rather than being in charge of her is going to make his cock fall off.
It is actually quite difficult to run a business with your romantic partner anyway (or with your best friend, for that matter) but it's even more difficult if one of you is the boss and the other an employee, and the employee resents this.

As to whether it's worth persevering with the marriage or not: well, you know your H better than we do and things might get better if you remove the employer/employee aspect from your lives together. If he's working for someone else ie someone he has no important personal relationship with you, he might be able to support your ambition and drive and hard work, and be proud of you, without tripping over his dick and all the complicated concepts of it being all wrong for him to be subordinate to his own wife.

But if he's an unmotivated lazy sod who is working for you because no one else will employ him, then you probably need to get him out of your life altogether.