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To ask about pubic hair removal?

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cherrycola2004 · 31/10/2017 16:38

I’m quite new here not sure where to post this so feel free to move the post.

I just wonder if you remove your pink hair how do you do it? Shaving is making me so sore and itchy, hair removal cream doesn’t seem to work too well, Home waxing kit was pointless and pretty much just took my skin off (ouch!)

Is a proper wax the only way?

Any tips or tricks?

Thank Smile

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SchadenfreudePersonified · 01/11/2017 13:50

Of course, User* this could be because most women would not want their fannies waxed by a bloke, and so only other women get the trade.

BertrandRussell · 01/11/2017 13:51

"take it that you (and other women) who claim that women only shave their minge to please their man, and it's the 'patriarchy' who make them do it"

I don't think anyone has said that women only shave to please their man, have they? But even if they had, for me a couple -or one of a couple- removing hair because it made sex better is a much more acceptable reason than a woman removing it because she has absorbed the narrative that women's bodies are dirty and smelly and need to be modified to fit an externally imposed arbitrary ideal.

BertrandRussell · 01/11/2017 13:52

"An interesting claim. Every waxing salon that I've ever used has been managed and staffed entirely by women. And I know for a fact that the independent salon that I currently use is owned by a woman"

The men are higher up the tree earning the real money. As in most things.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 01/11/2017 13:54

Schadenfreude, that is most definitely the case for me. I'd never even thought of that. I would never go to a man for waxing.

JustWonderingZ · 01/11/2017 14:01

It hacks me off this superior attitude from the militant ‘bush brigade’. A real feminist never shaves anything or it automatically disqualifies them. Yeah, right.

I stupidly thought feminism means the freedom for women to live their lives how they choose (that includes having or not pubic hair). Please feel free to correct me.

BertrandRussell · 01/11/2017 14:07

"It hacks me off this superior attitude from the militant ‘bush brigade’. A real feminist never shaves anything or it automatically disqualifies them. Yeah, right."

Nobody said that. Why did you make it up?

stevie69 · 01/11/2017 14:16

Why would you want a foof like a five year old? Just trim around the edges so you don’t get a fringe round your pants and look like a grown woman.

Well .........why not? It feels nice, it looks good, I like it. Not much more to say, really Blush

stevie69 · 01/11/2017 14:19

I'm a militant leave it alone person. I 've never understood why adult women want to look like little girls.

You don't need to understand: it's not required knowledge. Just trust me .... some of us like to remove it Blush

Wallywobbles · 01/11/2017 14:38

Laser by a dermatologist. Fucking expensive but effective. I pay 270€/session for beard, mustache, bikini line, lower leg and knees. Should take 5-6 sessions. Don’t waste your money on time going to a salon for it though.

Facial hair only really happened post kids though.

I use a beard trimmer to keep the bit I keep shortish.

Eolian · 01/11/2017 14:38

But don't talk about smell and sweat and hygiene. That is all obvious bollocks

But it isn't. I don't understand why anyone would be surprised that a thick layer of hair under at least two layers of clothing might make you feel sweaty. The only other part of my body with thick hair is my head. If I wore two layers of clothing over my head, that would get sweaty too. Fortunately, hats are not compulsory, whereas I thinkI'd get a few funny looks if I decided to rely on my pubes to keep me warm and ditched the knickers and jeans.

I genuinely don't give a monkey's about pubic hair trimming from an aesthetic point of view and no way would I do sonething painful/itchy like wax or shave. But I trim, purely for comfort and non-sweatiness.

MelodyvonPeterswald · 01/11/2017 14:39

Why is it that until not so long ago, very few women in Europe removed their hair. The "societal expectation" that women shouldn't have underarm hair was contrived (at least in the modern era) by marketing ...men (yes men) in the US in the 1950s purely as a way of getting hold of their more abundant disposable income in the post war era. Regardless of the fact that the hair that is left on our bodies (since we evolved from our ape like ancestors), has clear biological benefits (including wicking away perspiration)..These were the same men who invented the term BO so they could tap into our insecurities and convince us to apply cancer-inducing chemicals to prevent an entirely natural physiological phenomenon.

Now the same "Societal Expectations" fund a multi multi pound industry which means you hardly ever see women with natural underarms anywhere in Europe any more.

Somebody somewhere is making a LOT of money from you. Even if a woman manages one of these despicable salons - I wonder who the owner / landlord/ biggest provider of the share capital is??

KarlosKKrinkelbeim · 01/11/2017 14:43

Melody’s puts points to the obvious truth that those of us with enough years under our belt to have some perspective know that pubic hair removal has become a thing in a way it simply wasn’t in the past. There are reasons for that, and they are nothing to do with comfort, health or hygiene, or anything which is actually in women’s interests, and please let’s not insult anyone’s intelligence by pretending otherwise.

JacquesHammer · 01/11/2017 14:51

There are reasons for that, and they are nothing to do with comfort, health or hygiene, or anything which is actually in women’s interests, and please let’s not insult anyone’s intelligence by pretending otherwise

I'm curious as for who's benefit you think I'm doing it?

How could by sheer dumb luck finding a way that makes my life limiting menstual cycle slightly more bearable be benefitting anyone but me?

Eolian · 01/11/2017 14:54

Yes, that's certainly true. But it doesn't mean that there aren't quite a lot of women who trim or remove hair for practical reasons. Nobody makes much money out of me using a pair of scissors. As for hair being useful in wicking away sweat, where exactly does it wick it away to if the hair is inside your clothes?

MelodyvonPeterswald · 01/11/2017 15:03

The hair we're left with (since we evolved from our ape-like ancestors) :
On our heads - actually to keep our heads cool - by preventing direct exposure of the skull to sunlight. Ask any bald man how much more sweaty their head feels on a sunny day compared with when they used to have hair.

Eyebrows - a natural barrier / channel to stop sweat getting into our eyes. Again - ask anyone who has lost their eyebrows how much of a problem this is.

Eyelashes - actually some of the most important hair on our bodies in terms of offering physical protection against things getting in or even near our eyes. Our eyelashes are connected to the some of the densest touch and movement sensors anywhere in the skin.

Nasal hair
I've got to say Lying Witch talking about getting her nostrils waxed has been the stupidest thing I have read on her. We are born with tiny hairs in our nostrils to reduce the risk of particulate matter entering the lungs. Pulling out the hairs from your nostrils significantly increases the risk of very nasty nasal bacteria getting stuck underneath your skin. So you saw a sign in a salon offering it...it wasn't an order!!!

Armpit hair
Primarily there to wick away the sweat that would otherwise sit on the surface skin. We would actually stay cooler if we kept it and then we wouldn't need to apply the carcinogenic chemicals on top...

Pubichair
Primarily there to wick away sweat that would otherwise sit on the surface skin. May also have an evolutionary role in diffusing pheromones.

Air on legs / arms
Mainly for the regulation of body temperature and to wick away sweat (as mentioned). Men have more hair because they also tend to sweat more.

It's natural. Anyone convincing you that it is better for you to remove it is trying to sell you something. When you do remove it, they can sell you even more stuff your body wouldn't have needed in the first place...stuff to treat the ingrowing hairs, antibiotics to treat the infected nostrils, breast cancer treatments..the list is long.

JacquesHammer · 01/11/2017 15:06

Anyone convincing you that it is better for you to remove it is trying to sell you something

Nobody convinced me. I found out.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 01/11/2017 15:06

I stupidly thought feminism means the freedom for women to live their lives how they choose (that includes having or not pubic hair). Please feel free to correct me.

You are not wrong Wondering.

I have always had enough pubic hair to stuff a mattress*, and leave it in all its glory. If other women want to take theirs off, that's fine by me, as long as they are doing it for themselves and not because some bloke finds it more attractive. Even then, if she wants to be a slave to the patriarchy . . .

  • A slight exaggeration - since I was 11 or so. Grin
DaisyRaine90 · 01/11/2017 15:08

Shave.

Then every day when you shower:
exfoliate with exfoliating gloves
Once dry, moisturise with cocoa butter or similar

MelodyvonPeterswald · 01/11/2017 15:09

Eolian it wicks away along the length of the hair. This is why pubic hair tends to be stiffer / stronger. It has a different protein composition.

DaisyRaine90 · 01/11/2017 15:09

Why are you a slave to the patriarchy if you do something your partner likes?

Surely that would mean if they do what you want they are slaves to the matriarchy?

Nobody seems to understand what feminism is anymore FFS

MelodyvonPeterswald · 01/11/2017 15:12

You're a slave to the patriarchy if you have been convinced that the natural state of your body needs "fixing".

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 01/11/2017 15:15

Melody, I asked about it as I'd read about it somewhere else. The salon did it.

What is your actual objective here? I'm asking because you veer in tone (along with Karl) from interesting to debate with to sneering and patronising with your comments. This is a chatboard and we're on a thread talking about hair removal to avoid ingrowing hair. It's evolved of course because this topic always does but why does it need to become so personal? I don't know about anybody else but from a point of being interested and wanting to know more about the wider issues, I'm left wanting to switch off.

Quite frankly, this is why I never venture onto the feminism chat; not because I'm not interested but because I just don't want to waste my chat time being talked down to. There are some bloody brilliant feminist minds out there and all I can think is if they happened on this thread they would be willing quite a few on here to rein it in and actually engage rather than hector. That's why I ask... what's the objective? If it's just to say your piece then job done.

I'm going to wait for Hoof to post again now.

KittyLover91 · 01/11/2017 15:16

I cant shave as it makes me horrible and itchy so I had been using veet for a long time until I finally bit the bullet and had my first wax in September for holiday.

Best thing ever! Yes its a little painful but it doesnt last as its so quick. Going back Saturday for a wax and I honestly cant wait!

My friend also got her first wax Monday night after I gave her all the details about mine, even though she said she found it alot more painful than I did she said she is going to keep it up as the results are worth it x

MelodyvonPeterswald · 01/11/2017 15:21

DaisyRaine90

Shave. No doubt using a razor marketed to women and therefore double the price of a standard BIC

Then every day when you shower: Yes you should use up gallons amd gallons of clean drinking water every single day - an idea first propagated by P&G I believe (the world's biggest soap manufacturer)
exfoliate with exfoliating gloves are you on commission?
Once dry, moisturise with cocoa butter or similar You wouldn't need to bloody moisturise if you weren't scrubbing off and scraping off the body's natural sebum every single day.

MelodyvonPeterswald · 01/11/2017 15:27

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe
I asked about it as I'd read about it somewhere else

You asked me what my objective is? To think and to get others to think.
Think about where and when you read and what that person's motive was in writing it. It was to convince/ persuade / coerce to you to believe that something entirely natural and beautiful about your body needs to fit with somebody else's ideal.

Ask yourself who /what that source is.

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