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To not know what this means?

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flyingpigsinclover · 30/10/2017 22:40

I just got an invite to an event which welcomes 'genderqueer' women.

What on earth does it mean ? It's a new one on me.

OP posts:
SadTrombone · 30/10/2017 22:41

Google it.

ButchyRestingFace · 30/10/2017 22:42

Wiki it.

MsJamesDeanBradfield · 30/10/2017 23:09

Erm just google it. Confused

Poshindevon · 30/10/2017 23:14

Stop with the Google/ Wiki it not helpful
Genderqueer denotes or relates to a person who does not subscribe to conventional gender distinctions but identifies with neither, both, or a combination of male and female genders

SadTrombone · 30/10/2017 23:35

@PoshInDevon in my experience, where someone asks what something (particularly something potentially sensitive / political / controversial in nature) means on a message board, and the subject easily Google-able (i.e. one word) it often ends up as a conversation about how 'Political Correctness has gone mad', 'there was none of this in my day', 'there's no such thing as X' etc.
Hence my comment and potentially part of the reason for others.
Certainly not suggesting any malice on the part of the OP, by the way

flyingpigsinclover · 30/10/2017 23:41

As the event is women only, I wanted to know who they were saying was welcome.

OP posts:
Mantegnaria · 31/10/2017 00:06

I have no idea what "genderqueer" is in this context. I did google it, and ended up even more confused.

OP, I suppose the easy way to tackle it is to consider whether YOU are "genderqueer" yourself.

If you are, you will probably be happy going to the event. If you aren't, then maybe you will find yourself less at home.

Since your point is that you don't know what "genderqueer" means, I would guess that you aren't "genderqueer". So probably don't go.

That kind of provides a practical answer to your question and avoids having to spend time figuring out what "genderqueer" is.

oldlaundbooth · 31/10/2017 00:12

Undecided people?

dinosaursandtea · 31/10/2017 00:17

Just because an event welcomesgenderqueer women doesn’t mean it’s only for them.

OP, it means people who identify as broadly female or feminine but don’t feel like they’re 100% women. Obviously everyone’s relationship to their gender is different, so what one person defines as genderqueer might just feel to you how you ‘do’ womanhood, or it could look very different. Thanks for asking - it can be confusing!

dinosaursandtea · 31/10/2017 00:18

It might also be a way of stating that the event is open to trans women.

WillowWeeping · 31/10/2017 00:22

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Mumof56 · 31/10/2017 00:23

It's someone who decides what gender they are when they wake up in the morning.

I feel like I am a woman today / I feel like a man today

dinosaursandtea · 31/10/2017 00:24

Well, no - women who were (for want of a better word) born women can still identify as genderqueer. This just means that the event is open to them as well.

SadTrombone · 31/10/2017 00:25

@Mumof56 - what you're (trying to) describe is Gender Fluid. Not genderqueer

dinosaursandtea · 31/10/2017 00:25

Mumof56 or that they feel like neither!

WillowWeeping · 31/10/2017 00:30

Dinosaurs I think the description you've given is the "correct one", i.e. a gender queer woman would be a woman who does not present in a stereotypicaly female fashion.

However 99% of the time genderqueer woman is now used to denote a man who relieves himself to be a lesbian woman. Tiresome

Mumof56 · 31/10/2017 00:36

A man who identifies as a lesbian woman GrinGrinHmm

Tippexy · 31/10/2017 00:42

A man who identifies as a lesbian woman 😂

Mantegnaria · 31/10/2017 00:44

Given the posts since my last one, it's pretty obvious that NOBODY has a clue what "genderqueer" means.

So OP, that means you've been invited to a party for people who like the vibe of the word "genderqueer" but aren't too clear what it means.

So if you like ambiguity, probably go. If you like things clear, probably don't.

Since you asked the original question, you seem to like things clear and defined. That's probably a reason not to go.

Who knows ?

Tapandgo · 31/10/2017 00:47

It will be an event full of seriously confused people.........hope alcohol improves their situation 🙄

Beeziekn33ze · 31/10/2017 00:48

If you go you can tell us about it and some of us will be clearer what genderqueer means.

Butterymuffin · 31/10/2017 00:53

a woman who does not present in a stereotypicaly female fashion.

I think this is what they mean too, but I get very irritated by the implication that 'other' women must therefore be mindless conformists to feminine stereotypes. I'm not and I don't imagine many women are, though I still identify as a woman since I was born one.

FloraFox · 31/10/2017 00:57

It's women with short hair or blue fringes and men with eyeliner (beard optional).

carb0nated · 31/10/2017 00:58

Fancy dress party?

carb0nated · 31/10/2017 00:59

I'm surprised the word "queer" isn't one of the bad ones. Get really confused about what we're allowed to say these days.

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