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Fallen out with MIL so thinking I might be UR

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PretendTeaPot · 24/10/2017 11:13

Had a big falling out with my MIL and wonder if I need some perspective.

DD is 2.4, but developmentally closer to 15/16 months, she's speech delayed, has hearing problems, eye sight problems, is asthmatic and has hip problems. She has at least 1 appointment a fortnight for something or other.

DH is flakey at best, a lazy sod at worst. He forgets everything including his own head if it isn't screwed on from what time his shift starts at work to picking DD up from Nursery, and everything in between. He's so unorganized that he never leaves time to have a shower when getting ready for work and is often late anyway, I'm constantly surprised he hasn't been sacked - he must be a good worker in other areas that they can overlook his consistent lateness.

I also work 3 days a week, manage to get myself and DD ready in plenty of time in the mornings, get DD to Nursery in time for breakfast there and get to work usually with 5 minutes or so to spare so I can make myself a cup of tea and start the day relaxed - I've been late once when there was a big accident on the main A road through my town but the two other women who live in my town were also late due to that so no-one got into trouble.

I had got into the habit of reminding, cajoling and even waking DH up to get him to where he needed to be on time. As well as getting myself and DD ready, getting DD to her appointments,shopping for and feeding us all, getting the cat fed, litter changed etc reminding DH to do the two housework jobs he has to do (clean the bathroom once a week (not the toilet as I do that everyday, just the bath and sink) and mop the kitchen floor once a week), reminding him to text his family to see DD. It was like having a teenager and a toddler at the same time.

In June I went to the doctors as I've not been feeling well; my blood pressure is through the roof, my heartrate is consistently high, and I've been suffering with headaches. The doctor has sent me for further testing but is 90% sure I'm doing too much and need to slow down.

So I stopped, stop reminding DH to do anything, told him I'm ask him once a week to text his mum to ask if she wants DD, and if he forgets or doesn't do it and she doesn't ask him then she won't see DD. I stopped getting him up, stopped doing things for him, and would just leave his meal in the microwave to heat up later if he wanted it, of course I still remind about housework as that affects us all. And I actually feel better since doing it.

And MILs shouted at me on Sunday as she hasn't seen DD since before my doctors appointment in June as DH says he'll text her later and forgets. He's been late for work 2-3 times a week since I stopped, and has not attended a single appointment of DDs as I give him the letters but don't remind him anymore so he can rearrange he schedule so he can attend.

MIL says that being married is like this and I need to do more for DH, she says I should of realised that men never grow up. She said it's my job not hers or DHs to make sure DD sees both sets of grandparents she sees my mum a few times a month as my mum will contact me and offer to have DD for a couple of hours for me. I also speak to my mum at least once a week. I also need to remember that DH works and his home life should be as stress free as possible. Apparently if I can't manage everything I should quit work (I work to cover nursery fees plus a tiny bit of spending money that's it - I also work for my own sanity as a life spent ferrying a child back and forth to hospital is boring, time consuming and means I don't have many friends plus her hip condition means we have to be careful what groups I take her too as if she hurts herself she can end up at A+E) and keep DD at home with me.

I'm just wondering whether IABU? And I do need to start doing things for DH again?

OP posts:
HeteronormativeHaybales · 24/10/2017 14:55

Your MIL is probably, under a lot of layers of apparent acceptance, simmering away with resentment at having had to run after a man/men all her life and, rather than confronting that, wants you to go through the same so she can justify it to herself with a belief that this really is just the way things are. The last thing she wants is for you to step outside of that paradigm.

I think you need to tell him, 'I cannot and will not do this any more. Your refusal to be responsible for your own and our family's affairs has given me health problems and risks our livelihood. I want you to leave while we undergo relationship counselling.' If he refuses to leave, really do consider moving to your mum's. See if you can negotiate with work re start and finish times. Perhaps drop your hours slightly or redistribute them to another day.

HeteronormativeHaybales · 24/10/2017 14:56

(Btw, I have seen a similarish scenario, without the MIL, and the woman has been driven into the ground. Simply talking doesn't help. There need to be consequences, that he can feel).

PretendTeaPot · 24/10/2017 18:14

Sorry for delay in responding DD was being a little monkey this afternoon.

When i told my husband I was ill he just said "Oh not you as well".

I told him I was going to stop doing things for him as he could do it when we first moved in together but not since we married, he just stopped trying. He doesn't set an alarm - whether that's because he forgets or he just can;t be bothered I don't know. He's had a warning at work apparently (just asked him) for his lateness so I do need to look at if he'll change or what will happen if he doesn't.

If he lost his job I couldn't afford to keep mine as I said previously it covers DDs nursery fees plus a bit of spending money - it wouldn't be enough to support a family of 3 + a cat on.

I'm not sure if I want to go to my mums yet, as timings are tight, and DD gets 1-1 all the time at her current Nursery due to her hips, hence why I suggested changing Nurseries to the other in the chain as I know some of the staff drive 20 minutes from that town to her current Nursery so it may mean not changing staff at all.

We were at MILs when she shouted at me, we were there because it was SILs birthday. SIL is a lot younger than H and has just started high school (just turned 12), MIL worked until she got pregnant with SIL but hasn't worked since; no reason why just FIL earns enough to keep them both. No SN in either H or SIL that I'm aware of.

OP posts:
Bobbins43 · 24/10/2017 18:50

Your MIL is a bloody cow. Is her dialling finger broken or something? She just wants you to carry on doing what she did for your partner. Fuck that noise.

violetbunny · 24/10/2017 19:05

The fact he was capable of organising himself before you were married says very clearly that his lack of organisation is nothing to do with capability and everything to do with his attitude towards you. He has no respect and fundamentally he believes it's your job to organise literally everything.

There is no way on earth I would stand for this - it were me I would be reading him the riot act to get his act together, especially if he's risking his job as a result of his lazy ways. And absolutely he should be sorting out anything relating to his side of the family.

DistanceCall · 24/10/2017 20:59

This situation is intolerable, OP. You need to set your husband straight. He can't treat you like this.

As for his mother, I would completely blank her out.

YouCantArgueWithStupid · 24/10/2017 21:10

DH & I were in a similar position 2 years ago. I told him I wasn’t doing it anymore and basically broke down crying to him about how stressful it was. I pulled every piece of paperwork I was dealing with, the house work, Work issues etc and he was shocked to see how much I really did whilst he went to work and came home. That was all he had to worry about was Work. Finances, logistics and typical women Work fell squarely at my feet including organising days out etc with his family (who I don’t like!).

Since then he’s been so much better. All I do re MIL etc is say to him on a Tuesday eve is “do you know what/when your lot want to do something this weekend”
Sometimes he does it. Sometimes he doesn’t. When MIL complains I turn to him and say “So what plans did YOU make?”

  1. MIL is redirected to the offender and not to me
  2. It lets her know it’s not my responsibility
  3. He then has to explain why he didn’t make the
Plans (usually because he didn’t want to see them!)

We’re so much better for it.

HermionesRightHook · 24/10/2017 21:10

Seriously, do not leave your job. You need to keep independence from this sod. If he loses his job he can look after your daughter - and if you can't trust him to do that then that says an awful lot about this whole situation.

chewiecat · 24/10/2017 22:25

Wow yadnbu
I would have kicked mil out of the house if she did that to me! But as others said, your mil is the least of your worries

Op think carefully about the example you will be setting for your dd. Do you really want her grow up seeing her mum doing everything for her dad? Do you want her to have a partner who is a man child as well?

You need to be a good role model for her

Madwoman5 · 24/10/2017 23:52

Ask yourself "what is he for?"
His laziness is as a result of mummy doing everything before and you doing everything after.
You are not on strike, you do not have to excuse yourself for putting your health first.
He shapes up or ships out. You have tried discussing the issues and he sees that as nagging. Time for action. He has a responsibility to his wife and child to contribute financially, physically and emotionally to the household. If he cannot do this, then you do not need him. He is a burden and one you can no longer excuse or support.
Tell him you are his wife, not his mother and suggest he goes somewhere else for some thinking time apart to decide what he wants out of this relationship. Stand firm and be strong.

He can choose to change or choose to stay the same. This is not your choice but his. Remember that.
Give it a time limit and stick by your decision.
If the choice to change is too hard for him, you have your answer.

LouHotel · 25/10/2017 00:02

How dare they do this to you. I can guarantee your DH has been moaning about you to his mother.

You need to have a very frank conversation with your OH. Not even setting an alarm is whole new level of laziness - i would set out exactly what needs to change in your relationship and if he wont accept it then its a clear sign to you of how much he loves you and i would make plans to leave.

ChasedByBees · 25/10/2017 01:10

What did your H say as MIL had a go at you? Did he agree? Surely any reasonable man would feel ashamed that he's been so incapable of contacting his own mother.

FangsAlot · 25/10/2017 01:20

Fuck that for a game of soldiers, what a bunch of lazy twats!

mcdog · 25/10/2017 01:42

OP, what do you get out of this marriage. Usually women say it’s financial security, but you don’t even have that. Please either leave him, or get marriage counselling, but do not just let it go on as it has been.

Italiangreyhound · 25/10/2017 01:52

PretendTeaPot I have not read all posts but have read your posts, OP and a few others too.

I agree with Uberfluffs "I assume you married him for a reason, and despite the frustration with timekeeping etc. it must be worth sticking with the relationship and trying to get him to 'man up' and take his fair share before considering leaving..."

and

"Would it be worth getting your MIL to look after DD for an evening so you can sit and have a meal and a proper talk with him about his part in things and his responsibilities? Maybe talk to MIL darkly about talking about your future as a couple so that she understands the gravity of the situation and shuts up."

and good post from KimmySchmidt1 at Tue 24-Oct-17 12:10:37.

You said "I stay because it's easier than adding to my workload to find a house, sort out bills etc. as I know my husband won't go. He wasn't actually like this until we got married strangely enough."

I think if you want to go, then do that. But...you said...

"I love the old him, the premarriage him. I think I hold out for him to come back."

I don't think he will unless you remind him that the old him is actually needed. I have a dear friend who married a lazy arse, they have been together for decades. He has not got better, in fact he has got worse. She has allowed him to do this because she has waited on him hand and foot. I am sure she had good motives but sadly it has not done either of them any favours. I think now she may even find it hard to be attracted to a man who is so thoughtless.

Italiangreyhound · 25/10/2017 02:01

PretendTeaPot "When i told my husband I was ill he just said "Oh not you as well". Honestly, this is so sad. Another friend has a dh who is always ill, she never gets a break because he is always ill and even when she is ill, he is more ill. Relationships must be give and take and work for both people. Sit him down and explain what your doctor said about your illness.

Here is my best advice, please ignore me if it is no good!

Your issue is with your dh - tell him about your health and tell him that that things will need to change, you need to be able to rely on him, sometimes - you need him to be responsible, not for him to always rely on you.

He has presumably got a phone and he can set the alarm on it to remind him for all the things he needs to do. If not he can get an alarm clock or some other 'gadget' to help him!

Make him aware of the medical issues both you and dd have and that his constant need of assistance is impacting your health.

He must not lose his job. Being able to support his family is hugely important. I cannot emphasize how corrosive this can be for a relationship when one person is really not pulling their weigh in terms of effort in a family. It may not always be earning money, it may be working in the home but it has to be something or it can kill off love very easily.

Also, not being able to rely on your partner is very demoralizing.

Please use this opportunity, of your MIL being a dickhead, to speak to her and ask for her support (her ideas are outdated but even so they are her ideas, not your ideas, and when she is interacting with your family she cannot impose her attitude on you).

Did I hear right, did you say she shouted at you? If so, tell her if it happens again you will get your coat and leave.

Remind your MIL that you are potentially her best chance of seeing DD so instead of bad mouthing you and not helping she should HELP YOU! She can do this by taking your child at times that would give you and dh one to one time, or other times for you to be able to relax. She can also speak to her son and remind him that he has a wife who works, takes care of a lovely child with medical needs and helps him, HE MUST STEP UP or he will run the risk of losing his wife.

She knows if it is solely down to her dh she will not see her grandson so she needs to support you and get her son to step up!

But your most important person here to influence is your dh - does he realise you are so unhappy you have considered leaving?

Keep well. Thanks

Italiangreyhound · 25/10/2017 02:04

Sorry

She knows if it is solely down to her son - your dh she will not see her grandson daughter.

reflexfaith · 25/10/2017 02:07

he thinks he's got you over a barrel OP
if you dont toe the line and mother him he'll lose his job and everyone will suffer

Zaphodsotherhead · 25/10/2017 12:30

Does anyone else feel horribly sorry for the Dh's Dsis? 12 years old and learning that her entire life has to be spent servicing men?

Santawontbelong · 25/10/2017 14:10

Please please send him back to mil. She can get him up for work and wipe his bum before he goes. .

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