Pyjamas at hotel breakfast

[flyingpigsinclover]

We were staying overnight in a hotel last night (after a small domestic emergency so had left the house in a hurry), over breakfast this morning a family of five came down for breakfast with all the children in pyjamas and dressing gowns and barefoot. they were aged about eight to fifteen or so.

Aibu to think that this is not really acceptable?

an older guest came over to her and told her that if he at 98 with two crutches could get dressed for breakfast that she in her 30s could also. He told her she lacked respect for herself,the staff and the other guests.

How utterly rude and bullish. I wonder if he'd have been such an arsehole to another man?

No, what is ‘grim’ about bare feet? Feet are perfectly nice. Some people’s feet are nicer than others - toddlers have enchanting feet, for instance, and some adults’ feet are not in the greatest of shapes - but feet are OK. Fine. They do a good job of being stood on. I have no problem with feet being lasciviously naked in public.

Some people's feet stink . I don't want cheesy feet nearby when I'm eating.

If he was 98 rhiannon he obviously grew up in very different times, with different values.
I suspect there is a generational aspect to our very differing views in this matter.
It is difficult enough to understand this behaviour if you’re middle-aged, never mind 98.
I quite admire him, actually. I often fantasise about telling people what I think of them strolling along with their head in their phone, merrily crashing in to those of us who are actually looking we’re we’re going.

I think it’s yet another drop in acceptable standards of behaviour.
I think the poster at the beginning of the thread who described the family being all self-consciously rule-breaking because they’re on holiday and want everyone to know it, probably got it right.

I think when you're 98 you just don't give a fuck what you say to people tbh. I wouldn't 😭

Rhiannon I don't think he was rude at all - the undressed guest was though. And you don't know he wouldn't have said it to another man, so need to impute sexist attitudes to all men (which is a sexist attitude in itself).
At 98 I expect he'd lived through a lot of challenges - including getting himself up and dressed in far more taxing circumstances than breakfast in a luxury hotel - during the Blitz maybe, or a POW camp, or the liberation of Belsen so I think he'd earned the right to call out poor etiquette when he sees it

Apart from many people’s feet being grim, everyone around them, including the serving staff, have to be extra careful not to stand in them.
Broken glass? Just put some fucking shoes on FFS.

Hear hear Rudolph.

I wouldn't let my kids do it but I have seen this at hotels. I doesn't bother me but you can almost see the other guests perform a silent Mexican wave of judginess as they enter the room.

I have to admit, I'm a bit envious of people who are so utterly unbothered by the thoughts of others.

Oh come on, how often do you get broken glass in a hotel restaurant? And do you otherwise just stomp around merrily treading on shod feet? I think not.

Feet that go around not in encased in socks and shoes don’t stink. People do not recoil in horror during summer at the sight of naked toes (or perhaps you do, but most people don’t).

And someone pompously lecturing a woman on self-respect in a restaurant is being outrageously rude.

@Iamagreyhoundhearmeroar

I’m doing it just fine, thank-you.
10 and 8 year old pretty much bath and dress themselves but 10 year old has masses of long, thick curly hair so I have to help her wash and dry it (drying can take 25 mins) and 8 year old as a skin condition so I have to help him with that.
3 year old requires constant supervision and help while I am bathing and dressing her so can’t help the others.
And my 4 year old has ASD and ADHD so needs his routine to be the same, he can’t be rushed and he won’t get in the bath with his sister.
2-3 hours is a real achievement for me.

@Iamagreyhoundhearmeroar

And if you and your children’s feet stink, maybe you should be adding some more time to your bathing routine? No part of your body should ever stink, if it does you have something or are doing something wrong.

Ah, I had one with Hair (with a capital H) too. Why are you doing it in the mornings, though?

@Iamagreyhoundhearmeroar

And so you would know how properly washing, caring for and drying such hair will take time.
Because it works fine for us doing it in the mornings.

Temps - why on earth would you do that every morning let alone before breakfast at a hotel. Why do you need to wash your daughters hair to go to breakfast?

It’s a drop in standards. We have to put up with it and not say anything in RL, for fear of being thought ‘judgemental’.
But it makes those of us who make an effort feel sad.
As others have said motherinferior if you live to 98 you’ve earned yourself a devil-may-care attitude.
More so than someone in see-through pj’s getting hotel staff to run around after her.
I just can not bear that kind of attention-seeking.

My family's feet don't stink, thanks, I make sure of it. I can't control what random people in hotels do, unfortunately.
If you imagine everybody's feet smell like roses you're deluded.

But it makes those of us who make an effort feel sad.

Good God, what breathtaking arrogance. Is it not enough to just speak for yourself?

@Lethaldrizzle

I don’t and didn’t say I did. I do all that after breakfast as they would be too hungry if we waited until after.

In a hotel I would happily take them down to breakfast in their Pyjamas (especially the little ones) then take them back to the room to wash and dress.

Do all the people gabbing on about stinky feet object to sandals or flip flops at breakfast?

I'm glad it works fine for you, temp. My point was that it's not actually necessary for a morning routine to take three hours.
You choose to do it that way, and that's fair enough. You're not actually compelled to, and most other people don't.

No, I don’t think sheer longevity gives you the right to be rude to other people. It’s taking advantage of other people’s reluctance to respond in the way they would to someone 40 years younger.

You could just as well say at 98 you’ve earned the right not to give a flying fandango what other people wear to breakfast.

And these days on MN anything from breastfeeding to getting your nose pierced is branded ‘attention seeking’.

@Iamagreyhoundhearmeroar

As I have explained, in our situation it is necessary for the morning routine to take that long. I am doing it by myself and of course I do everything possible to shorten it. This time last year with my then 3 year old it could of taken 4+ hours.
This is as best as I can do and it is necessary for me to wash and dress my children even if it takes 2-3 hours.
If you would like to tell me how to do it quicker be my guest?

The 98 year old wasn't being rude, he was calling out poor behaviour by another.

I think we can all agree spending 2 hours dressing 4 children isn't the norm or necessary