So we went for a drive yesterday and happened to end up 30 mins from dh's nans house, so I called her and asked if we could pop round for 10mins and made the point that we wouldn't stay for long as we had the kids etc plus didn't really want to impose on her. She lives with DH's dad and neither of them have yet seen our ds who's a few months old now. So her reply was "I'm doing the ironing so not really appropriate!" I feel a little bit upset to be honest. His dad's family make no effort with him or us. I guess it's one less Xmas card to write??