An Irish person would never say this

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"I'm thinking of moving to the north east, where can you recommend"

Neither would a Scottish person, not a Welsh person.

Why do English people seem to think that everything revolves around England? I see this time and time again on Mumsnet. People assuming that "North East" is flipping England.

Donegal in the the South, though it is more north than the North.

Sa'n dda siarad Cymraeg mwy efo Mamau eraill

I put this through google translate because I'm nosy. The capitalisation on 'Mamau' turns this into 'it's good to speak welsh with mammals' (God knows I hate speaking welsh with reptiles - scaly fuckers!) on a hunch I decapitalised the 'M' and it turned into 'other mothers'.

If anything, I believe this proves people's point that there is a big difference between north and The North. Capitalisation matters, people!

It is a shame the devolution of England was cancelled. Also a shame people do not know the political geography of their own country.

Kate the English region is the South West or North West or West Midlands, England is a bit long and skinny for a West and it would mean getting rid of Wales.

Scotland, Wales and N.I. are also regions of the UK. Further subdivision is available. However, most people seem to struggle with recognising the twelve regions. If I said I did not know where Scotland was, people would think me stupid or arrogant. Yet people seem to think it is acceptable not to know where the North West is.

thanks existentialmoment To me that's the south! But my mum lives near Newry so that's probably why.

Actually it's such a pain travelling around the area, because so many times you travel into Ireland and then back again into Norn Iron.

The West Country isn't even a country. I demand a explanation.

thanks existentialmoment To me that's the south! But my mum lives near Newry so that's probably why

It can't be the south of the country of Ireland, because Louth is at the very top of that country on the East Coast. That's a bit like saying you think York is the South of Scotland.

And The Kingdom of Fife doesn't even have a King!

No other UK country assumes on a website that everyone is talking about their country if they don't specify a country.

No other UK country has 80% of the UK population living in it. It's not so much arrogance as it is maths.

Scotland, Wales, NI and England are usually referred to as nations within the UK rather than regions of the UK. Equating “Scotland” to NW England is really not a good comparison, for pretty obvious reasons.

I do think England should get its own Parliament and Government and we should have a fully federalised UK, but most English people don’t seem that bothered about it so doubt it’ll ever happen.

In the ROI, Donegal is lumped into the West when people are disusing stuff like that so. It all depends on your perseptive NI have a different perspective than ROI on these things.

Well to be fair it seems like most posters on here are English, so it's safe to assume they're talking about England.

I wonder if MNHQ could show us some demographics on users??
Genuinely curious.

There is only one region called the North East in the EU

I cannot believe how many people don't understand the OP.

The thing is, OPs basic point was that English people do this in a way that Irish people don't, and it's indicative of something negative in the mentality. This was somewhat undermined by the fact that Irish people absolutely do do it, just not in regards to the north east of Ireland. But they say 'the west' all the time, or the ones not from the west do anyway, without qualifiers.

For some reason Irish people just don't seem to think of the north east as a way of describing any of Ireland. I have had this discussion with an Irish person this afternoon, and had to point out to them that they're from the sodding north east. Apparently it hadn't occurred before.

And as a lot of people have pointed out, north and south have different meanings in Ireland to England. Because of the political situation. Whereas west doesn't, and Irish people use it in a similar way to the way English people would north east. Without qualifiers. Which suggests OP is BU in saying that Irish people would never say this.

* . I'm sure no ofence is meant to the Scots or Irish*

It appears that some can take it anyway

Well I am confused by the references to Newcastle, which I understand is in Northern ireland (Co Down).

The reason Irish people would not say it is: there is only one NUTS 1 region in Ireland. The same for Scotland and Wales, there are nine NUTS 1 regions in England and one is called the North East.

@WhyOhWine That's really insulting to all the people from Newcastle in Limerick.

It depends on whether you want other people to know where you are talking about. If I talked here about the north east people would visualise the north east of their own country or assume I meant England. I think you only realise how irritating this is if you don't live in England.

I don't live in England and I don't find it at all irritating. And I certainly don't think people are referring to New England when they say the north east, even though that's where I live.

Just don't get me started on Bangor. Tsk!

Banana, no an Irish person wouldn't just say the west. Not on Mumsnet they wouldn't. Which is what we're on about. In real life the person you're talking to knows which country you're in so of course you don't need to qualify it then.

There in an Ulster and Suffolk county in New York.

Actually I've seen Irish people on here say the west when it's a discussion about Ireland, and also do it on majority Irish forums. Like how MN is an English based, majority English forum.

Which rather undermines OPs point.

The North East is one of the geographical regions of the UK Google it.

Of course people say the west when talking about Ireland. It's well known. Both in Ireland and Northern Ireland.

Northern Ireland is going to have special consideration when it comes to Brexit.