To suspect that dd’s drink got spiked?

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She went out to a well known London club which turns out to have a rep as being quite druggie.

She is quite a heavy drinker with a high tolerance. She drank 2 pints and 5 jaegarbombs. No more than she says that she can quite easily manage and drinks on a night out clubbing.

Predrinking she was fine and she arrived at the club around 12pm. She drank some jaegarbombs in the club with a friend who was fine.

By 1am she was being violently sick and immediately had to leave the club and be supported by others and got a taxi home. She was vomiting all the way home and it also seems that she crapped her pants.

She was sick all night and woke up in a bed full of her own vomit. Her friends had left her by that point to sleep themselves having been watching her all night.

She has absolutely no recollection of what happened last night after arriving to the nightclub.

She said she still felt drunk at midday and she is still occasionally vomiting and feeling ill.

What do you think? Was she spiked or did she drink too much?

Would she tell you if she had taken something stronger than alcohol? Most kids won't, the last thing they'll want is a lecture when they feel that rough.

On saying that, alcohol can have a different impact under different circumstances, and I think two pints and five caffeinated shots within one hour is drinking to get messy drunk, which is what happened.

Spiking does happen. It's rather dangerous to pass around the idea that it's a myth these days.

It doesn't have to mean Rohypnol. There is a shitty trend of people spiking their mates with e's, molly etc for a laugh.

Constant Vigilance! Is still important IMO.

DD was spiked last weekend. 4 drinks and no memory at all of the whole night.
Thankfully she had good friends who realised what had happened and who looked after her. She's totally freaked out by the what-ifs.

And it is must definitely not a myth.

I'm a lightweight and now rarely go out, but could still manage 2 pints and 5 jaegers without having such a reaction. Don't get me wrong I'd be rather pissed but not in the way your DD was.

So unless she could be downplaying how much she drank, I'd definitely be suspicious that something more wasn't involved.

Definitely a reminder to DD that she needs to be very vigilant when out drinking

My best friend is a big drinker and this happened to her a couple of times when in her 20s. There's all sorts of things to factor in, you might be catching a virus, overtired, in a funny hormone balance ( not female ones but the ones we all have). Could be all sorts.

I've not heard of anyone reacting this way to a roofie or sleeper though a lot of people seem to think they would.

I don't drink much at all and even I can mix a cocktail and a sleeping pill with no ill effect.

Considering jäger bombs are usually downed immediately I doubt they were spiked (it could have been the pints but I doubt it)
Red bull is awful stuff, once on a night out I was on just red bull (didn’t want a hangover) and almost fainted after a few cans of the stuff.

I make 2 pints + 5 jaegarbombs around 10 units of alcohol. More if there were any forgotten drinks.

Over the course of a night out - although drunk, that might be ok for some people.

Over an hour though, your poor DD's liver would have had no chance of processing that quantity of alcohol. Her symptoms are consistent with alcohol poisoning, as is her history. You need to be honest with her.

Yep - I don't think she had her drink spiked - just too much, too quickly and her body said " erm, No"

I've had my drink spiked - I'd had less than a pint (I'm 5ft9ins and no willow) on Newcastle Quayside back when they opened it for new year. I started to go really spaced out and was very lucky my friend clocked it and took me to the St Johns ambulance that was parked close by. I would have walked off with anyone at that point. I don't remember anything after lying down in their ambulance, til I came round at 7am the next morning in casualty. My clothes had been taken off (to get my stats etc) and I hadn't noticed at all.
IMO someone spiking your drink wants you subdued and forgetful - not shitting & puking.

But at the end of the day - does it matter if your DD's drink was spiked or not? She was out drinking far too much and got into a bad situation either way. Time for a reality check maybe?

9.5 units is a lot in a short time, and if you're mixing your drinks it's even more lethal. And that added to your daughter potentially having drunk more than she admitted to, it could have been alcohol poisoning.

I remember how mixing my drinks used to really have a potent effect on me, in recent times I've stuck to wine.

I got spiked last year. I'm old enough to know better really, but left my glass of wine unattended whilst I danced with my SD.

We'd eaten a hefty pasta meal, and had 4 glasses of wine between 8 and 11, really light for us, but it was summer so we alternated diet coke & wine.

Our last drink at 11pm knocked us for 6. We both felt awful and realised something was terribly wrong. Managed to get a cab home. SD passed out on sofa, usually this would concern me and I'd watch over her all night, but I was so ill I fell straight into bed. half an hour later I sat bolt upright vomiting.

I didn't wake up until 1pm the next day. Unheard of for me. After 20 years of mumsyness, I never sleep beyond 8am!

When I got up I found my SD had vomited in her sleep on her back. She'd not stirred, god knows how she didn't choke on her own vomit.

The symptoms really do sound like your daughters though.

It's risky to be so certain about how much alcohol you can handle. You end up counting the drinks rather than paying attention to how you are feeling.

I imagine that's how people end up in the state OP's DD was in.

It's also why I stopped getting into rounds when I went out years ago.

ok i stand corrected. im talking from professional experience and personal experience. i bow to your superior knowledge.

i still think ops dd was pissed. it happens.

It's not really a "Major Drink Problem" I'd say that was a fairly normal amount for young adults out having a good time in a club.

It's great that her friends sat with her all night. Vomiting in your sleep is very dangerous and can be lethal.
I've not heard of a drug administered to a drink that would cause severe sickness and diarrhoea, I suppose it's possible combined with the alcohol. It could simply be a horrible stomach bug.

Saying it's a "druggie" club is pretty meaningless. Few people would spike a stranger's drink for a laugh if they've bought those drugs for themselves.

Make her aware of the precautions she can take to avoid spiking; don't leave drinks unattended, don't drink from other people's drinks and stick with a group.

Sounds like she's over the worst so rest and lots of fluids will help.

If im reading the OP right she had the pints and some jaeger bombs at home before going out, got to the club at 12 where she only had some jaeger bombs. As someone else said JBs are usually downed so no chance for spiking. Is she suggesting someone at home spiked her pints or the JBs she had at home?

Lol at the pearl clutching judgeypants on here! As a student I could drink far more than that in a couple of hours and not be sick.

OP, that doesn't sound like her drink was spiked, it sounds like she had food poisoning that was completely separate from the drink. Spiking does not give you vomiting and diarrhea.

Food poisoning doesn't make you black out and forgets things.

The one time I was that sick on alcohol I drank on an empty stomach.

I think it is the jaegerbombs to be honest. I once had several on a night out and not only did they make me sick, but they also did not agree with my stomach in other ways, so to speak! I wasn't quite as bad as your dd but not far off to be honest.

Just a lesson to be learnt for future. But I don't think it sounds like she has a drink problem!

PS. I did get my drink spiked once and although it gave me horrible horrible headaches and black out (after only 2 drinks) it didn't make me vomit

Have known four people be spiked in london all in very different circs, including me, all grim and terrifying. Very different reactions than to alcohol, all of four times victim could mostly pinpoint when and who in retrospect. It DEFINITELY happens (though does sound like your dd could have just been wasted drunk).

I've had a similar reaction when I went out drinking the day after being in close proximity to someone with norovirus. That is, i had a moderate amount of alcohol and acted as though I'd drunk far, far more because it was the alcohol layered on top of the illness.

I would guess that happens more often than someone putting more alcohol in your alcohol, and most 'spiking' drugs are more about incapacitating people than making them act extra drunk.

Op I'd be concerned too actually.. If she's sure that's how much she drank then I really don't think that amount would make her black out! I'm surprised how many people think that's a lot of alcohol for a night out and think a lot of the posters are being a bit naive. Most young people I know would easily drink that amount and would not be sick. Jagerbombs really aren't that strong. They are tiny and there's hardly any red bull in there either so not as if she's having 5 whole cans.
The fact she pooped herself makes me think she was either spiked, drank more than she said, someone added a lot more alcohol in or she took a drug and didn't tell you. Either way I'd be concerned.

why don't you bring her for a blood test?

Multiple Jaegerbombs isn't a great plan - way too much caffeine, seriously hangover inducing spirit and both likely to impact your digestive system if you're not used to them. I'm not a youngster but IME, most people will have one Jaegerbomb (probably about the time they ought to get in the taxi).

Of course people do get spiked, but as a understand it Jaegerbombs are drunk in one or two glugs basically, so if they were buying them themselves that seems less likely than say, a wine glass left on a table.

5 Jaegerbombs in an hour is also pretty quick drinking. I don't have the tolerance I had when younger, but while I could have 5 strong pints with friends over 6 hours (inc food) and wake up with nothing more than a slight headache, were I to forgo the food or speed up the drinking I'd feel quite different. Likewise 3 sticky cocktails including a bunch of caffeine wouldn't make me drunk, but it probably would make me disinclined to food the next day.

Only your DD knows how alcohol affects her and choice or drinks and pace will affect that. I've had the same number of units over the same period but different drink choices - one produces a hangover, one doesn't.

There's loads of things that can cause a reaction like this. The only time I have ever been so drunk I couldn't stand up, I'd been drinking on a more or less empty stomach (8 Diamond Whites - never touched the stuff since, 20-odd years on), it was the worst day of my period and I'd had a Ponstan, it had been a hot and sunny day and the emotional atmosphere was beyond peculiar. All sorts going on there.

I'd be getting your DD to have a chat with you and debrief. It might be an opportunity for her to consider how risky her drinking might be and whether she might do better to avoid Jagerbombs and similar. And also whether there are ways of making sure her drinks aren't spiked or fake or knock-offs.