To go into work with an upset stomach?

[HarriRose]

Not to be TMI, but 2 lots. With stomach cramps...? I don't have any bowel issues. Might need to go again, but it isn't constant and work in a supermarket, so not too bad.

Yes I can read You still don’t go in, you tell them you will not be in today. If it’s not your job to provide then leave it with whoever it is. You are contagious and probably putting lives at risk in a care home! How on earth can you do the cleaning?! You will be making things dirtier and more unhygienic!

They can't force you to come in king. It's their problem if they have no cover. Without sounding dramatic a resident could actually die if they are frail or in poor health which I assume most will be

Probably, but if I don't go in I could be sacked.

Simple as that.

They can't actually make you go in though King, can they? I mean, what if you were in a coma, what would they do then?

And no, shops can't get into trouble for ill staff passing on illnesses to customers.
But, no, the op should not go to work. Quite obviously.
If the employer can't arrange their resources so they have cover if someone is sick then, frankly, the business model isn't viable.

No it's upset stomach. No sickness. I mean I don't have IBS or something.

Then you have a case for unfair dismissal. You don't put lives at risk. Simple as that

I've not had a day off sick since 2002 myself though. I have had d&v in that time, but it just so happened I wasn't working when I had it. I couldn't have gone to work though, no way.

KingJ, tell them to put it in writing that you called in sick with d&v, and that they wouldn't allow you to stay away from the workplace. They might be able to find cover after all...

Employers really do need to realise that these bullying tactics could come back to haunt them. It isn't uncommon at all for unwell people to be forced into work with threats and pressure from above.

It's not unfair dismissal to sack someone for not attending work due to sickness, it can be done fairly. And if you have under two years service you can't bring an unfair dismissal claim anyway.

ive just got out of hospital following emergency bowel surgery. Both me and my breastfed baby contracted d&v from the ward, despite having a private room. It's made recovery far far worse than it should have been, and the poor elderly patients were having a horrendous time, the nurses had so much to deal with already and then had 5/6 patients who are bed bound but need to go to the toilet every half hour on top, as well as all the extra hygiene and isolation needed. At least when I got ill I was well enough to get myself to the toilet but it's been horrendous.

Going in to work with d&v (or going to visit relatives in hospital!) at best makes you an irresponsible dipshit but at worst you could kill someone. Some of those women on my ward were so frail already.

This makes me so mad. Seriously, keep your germs to yourselves?! You cannot be made to work when sick. To go into either of those workplaces with suspected stomach bug is just utterly selfish. Nursing homes are renowned for these bugs spreading round - a nightmare for your co-workers, not to mention the vulnerable residents! Appalling. OP - same for you. I don't want you handling my food shopping with a sickness bug?! How do you know you won't serve someone with a suppressed immune system, having chemo or the like? I just can't get my head round you even considering it. Totally selfish. It is not your responsibility to provide cover when you are sick. That's the company's problem! It is your responsibility not to potentially infect hundreds of other people!

This is my worst nightmare. I am pregnant after a MC, high risk pregnancy, with an immunity problem that affects my liver, so I've been advised not to have the flu jab.

No-one should be in any public space if they know they might have something contagious. There's no such thing as being a martyr. It's just selfish, very very selfish.

But Op does not have D and V though, she has been twice, hardly a case for a shift off. Almost certainly there is nothing to transmit onto anyone else.

Some people will get sacked for ringing in sick, especially if in a probation period. Some people also can't afford to lose a days pay as this means bills aren't paid or there is little or no food for their child that week.
This is a problem with shit employers, it's them we should be mad at for forcing ill people to go into work, not the ill people themselves.

If there is food poisoning caused by someone handling food when they have an illness , then I think the supplier can be fined. You have a stomach upset so should not work. Please read the Food Standard Agency guidelines. These state that those who have d or v or are having stomach cramps ,nausea , fever should not go to work in food stores, it is not enough to say, I don't touch food but you will touch surfaces that others touch.and could spread illness. it is common sense to prevent spreading illness.

I don't handle food... You do realise all the food we serve comes in packaging? If it was such an issue, why am I not told to wash my hands after serving every customer? I touch their items after touching money and the germs on money...

But you work in a shop that sells food! And yes I realise that lots of food arrives packaged but you have been vomiting and I wouldn't want you handling food items if you are vomiting! You could still pass on a bug to others. If you told a manager you were being sick then it would be very irresponsible of them to say you could work.

Here's a link that helps clarify the issue, given the various surfaces you're touching and that you're sharing the same air:
www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/how-long-do-bacteria-and-viruses-live-outside-the-body.aspx

Please think again about going in.

I haven't been vomiting. What about all the germs on the money?

Why did you ask if you’re so sure you’re right?

Stay home!

Don't pass on your sickness bug to other people

Youll have to clarify what you mean by upset stomach? No vomiting and no diarrhoea. I'm guessing you just feel sick then? I would be working if it was just feeling sick. Unless someone close to you has been ill with d&v. For the rest of you saying you would go in with d&v, shame on you. Esp the care home one. That's horrific. Could actually kill someone. Jeez where has common sense gone?

Gross and selfish. Don't go in.

Yes, I have had diarrhoea??

Again, I have no choice.

I agree it's fucking awful but my hands are tied.

There's no one to do the shift.