Plus sized clothing for kids

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Not sure if this has been covered yet - not seen it but apologies if it has!

See the article here

It makes me sad that we live in a world where we need plus sized clothes for kids. I was hideously obese as a child - I had to see a dietician when I was 10 and was in size 18-20 clothes - and this was down to the fact that I was allowed to eat whatever I wanted.

I genuinely believe this has dramatically affected my relationship with food nowadays, and I blame my parents and grandparents.

When do we start cracking down on kids having more than just puppy fat?

Some of the posts explaining why there child are the exceptional circumstances are pointless..Of course there are exceptions..

However the fact there are plus sized clothing available in the main supermarkets suggests there are far too many obese children...

However I also do not think the answer is restricting this clothing, I am not sure what the answer is but don't think this is...It is supply and demand after all.

Get rid of plus size kids clothes, not allowing thrm clothes is a fab way to encourage weightloss

I can't see any parent thinking "oh DD can have that extra bag of crisps there's always NEXT's plus size range to fall back on!"

So glad this closed minded post has helped above posters find this range!!

My DAD is thin, but being able to buy pants and trousers that will help to accommodate her back brace without being too long is definitely something I would appreciate.

Not DAD, DD. Stupid autocarrot!

Sorry, Sisyphus, but autocarrot made me laugh. Though my autocorrect didn't try to change it either .

Why are people talking about Grenfell and medical issues? Talk about missing the point.

We were on holiday in a big standard holiday park this summer. Now we are certainly not a 'sugar free' family and my kids eat their fair share of rubbish, but Christ on a bike some of the utter crap that many of the kids were just constantly consuming made my toes curl. Those enormous bottles of blue slush puppies, candy floss, lollies and crappy sweets. Just gross.

But im not allowed to talk about that because it's 'judgemental'.

And obviously it's great that kids with medical needs will benefit from this sort of range, but that is not who Next designed it for, which is why I talked about missing the point.

I agree that it is missing the point, but if I have a chance to capitalise on it, I will take advantage.

On the note of garbage food - does it not seem like the smallest size of anything you can buy at amusement venues has become foolishly large?

Certainly, it is the responsibility of the parents to instill good habits, but there certainly is not a lot of support out there from those looking to take our hard earned £££

On the note of garbage food - does it not seem like the smallest size of anything you can buy at amusement venues has become foolishly large?

YES! Large food = large people

Apples and bananas are definitely not a treat food - they should be consumed regularly. The problem is that the foods seen as treat foods (chocolate, crisps, fried foods, heavily processed foods) are also not treat foods for the obese child - they are a regular part of the diet and apples and bananas are eaten as frequently as caviar.

The person who mentioned advertising is also not really relevant to this conversation - obesity on young children is not due to them watching I-or seeing an advertisement firvcica cola - they are not the ones doing the food shopping for the family.

Not rft (sorry) but I'm so passionate about this and really don't know what the answer is. Parents regularly start threads on here about the school weight/measurement programme complaining they letter it wrong. Now, it may well be - df has a son who is officially overweight but he has very solid muscles making his thighs big and at 12 is pretty broad. His dad is 6'7" and a rugby player (build to match) so with that context it's likely her ds will be larger than average. Numerous dc will have similar backgrounds but most getting letters showing concern about bmi will have parents who get angry and don't believe it.

I wish parents would stop being offended and use the letter as intended, as an alert to stop and consider whether there is an issue you need to address. So many parents seem to think it's the clothing shop's fault clothes don't fit their dc.

Having said all that, I struggle with the opposite as dd 9yo is underweight despite eating good sized meals. Change4Life keeps teaching her she should be eating fat free yoghurt and semi skimmed milk... nooooo she needs full fat!!!! it drives me nuts as it then makes her question what she's eating and worries her she's fat.

I can't see any parent thinking "oh DD can have that extra bag of crisps there's always NEXT's plus size range to fall back on!" either.

But the fact that these clothes exist normalise being fat. Like the poster who says her kids "have her legs and her bum" so need "comfort fit". They're fat aren't they.

Well I'm relieved. I have twins and one is slightly overweight and one slightly underweight. Weirdly the overweight one is the one who loves fruit and veg and does a lot of sports. Growing up one always had to have his trousers taken up and the other always had trousers skimming his ankles. I suspect the overweight twin will be like his dad, who was also overweight as a child, and be quite muscular but slim as an adult.

My daughter is 14, short but curvy with a big bust. she is also muscular. according to a childs BMI chart she is overweight. plug the same stats into an adult BMI chart and she is perfectly fine. she wears size 6/8 clothing.

I do not get BMI charts!

There are children a little over 10 years old with pre-diabetes and Type 2 diabetes.

The prognosis for people diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes is 15-20 years. 😱

In these cases, the whole family tends to be obese or morbidly obese and so they see nothing wrong with the child.

The only hope for the kids is gastric surgery when they hit their teens.

It's disgraceful that whole families are so in denial/cut off from society/oblivious that life threatening surgery is considered acceptable in young people who should have their whole lives ahead of them. 😱😱😱😱

BMI charts are only for fully grown adults who have stopped growing.

Children and adolescents have their own, somewhat complicated charts, which need to be used instead.

The parents of these children should be shamed. Not the kids, it isn't their fault at all. Of course they should be wearing comfortable clothes which fit, we should be doing everything we can to make life easier for them.

Their parents on the other hand, they need taking over the coals.

We have utterly lost sight of what a healthy child looks like. Ribs are normal not skinny. Puppy fat isn't a thing. And somewhere along the line these kids are being overfed, comfort eating or just plain not being looked after.

Tbh, I'd even go so far as to say one of the royal kids is looking overweight (not George/Charlotte). Parents clearly blind to it.

Uokbing Mon 18-Sep-17 21:23:04
"Why are people talking about Grenfell and medical issues? Talk about missing the point"

Yes I suppose it gets a little too complicated for some when they just cant blame it on the children or their parents for having no willpower. Living in a hotel for three months eating takeaways im sure they wont gain a pound and then be part of these statistics. Much easier to point the finger at people and blame them isnt it. Makes for a much juicier thread

I really don't see an issue with providing plus size clothing. Guess what, even fat kids need clothes. At the end of the day obese kids have just the same wants, desires and feelings as other kids. Honestly, some of the comments on here talk about fat people like they're sub human. I'm a bit overweight, up until a year ago I was obese. I certainly never bought a size 18 thinking, 'well they sell it so it must be a normal size'. Obesity is a huge problem (excuse the pun) but plus size clothing is not the cause, or even part of the problem. Hopefully I've broken the cycle, my own kids are not overweight, but it's taken me a long time.

Yes, apples and bananas are not expensive, you have to put that into context, you can buy 20 chocolate covered biscuits for the price of 10 bananas, you're pretty skint, what are you going to put in your kids lunch box? Yes, there are wealthy fat people too, it's not poor = fat, but it doesn't help. My food bill is definitely higher now than it was, if our income was restricted I'd struggle to feed us all as healthily as I do now. I'd probably manage it, but it's unrealistic to think everyone has access to the same resources to allow them to do that.

Oh and children on holiday, eating sugary crap, even the fat ones! Oh the horror!

Wait till Universal Credit is fully rolled out.

Why are they writing the article now? Next has been offering plus fit children's clothing for ten years. They also offer slim fit too but nobody is writing an article about that?

On the note of garbage food - does it not seem like the smallest size of anything you can buy at amusement venues has become foolishly large?

What frustrated me is the amount of 'treats' such as chocolate and crisps which actually have more than one serving per packet. For example, a serving of Twix is one stick.

I think there should be a requirement that all packaging that holds more than one serving should be resealable.

Small changes like this can slowly begin to make it more noticeable when 'treats' are overeaten.

I am sure your mom and grandparents loved you... I am sure that you know that already.

Actually, me and my brother went on to be neglected - my brother was malnourished at the age of 10.

Swings and roundabouts.

BMI charts are only for fully grown adults who have stopped growing

Children and adolescents have their own, somewhat complicated charts, which need to be used instead

well, this is why i'm confused. shes 14, she hasn't grown in 2 years at least. she started her period 4 years ago, and i read that once a girl has their period they only grow a couple more inches at most usually. so, to me that means she is at her full adult height. so should i use an adult chart? I don't see how she can be overweight with a size 6/8 figure and a 23 inch waist. she's very sporty and has abs and defined muscular arms and legs.

I don't see why this is such a complex issue. Yes, there are children with medical issues and of course they should be catered for and treated with respect and kindness.

However, most of the obese children we see are not ill. They are fat. They are fat because they eat too many calories and don't move enough.

Parents need to take responsibility for what goes into their children's mouths and heir exercise levels. Chocolate, fizzy drinks, crisps, fried food, junk etc should not be part of a daily diet but a treat - once a week not once a day! A whole bag of carrots costs about 50p. Less than one wispa. There's no excuse!

And I say this as a child who was allowed to eat junk all the time because I was 'fussy about fruit and veg'. Got a bit chunky by the end of primary school, was definitely heavier than I should have been by 12-13 and have struggled to maintain a health weight as an adult due to deeply ingrained poor eating habits. I only lost weight at around age 25 when I completely changed how I ate, and viewed food as a fuel rather than a reward.

Just getting into losing my baby weight now, and am having to adopt the same mindset!