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AIBU?

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Annual leave entitlement

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Sienna333 · 17/09/2017 09:55

AIBU to say that someone who only works 25 hours a week (No kids) should not say they feel stressed as they have only had 5 days off work this year?

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OurMiracle1106 · 17/09/2017 10:56

YABU you have no idea why they only work part time. I was part time for around 6 months and don't have kids as the stress of full time had caused my epilepsy to worsen.

You also don't know what's going on in her personal life. Sick relative/illness/counselling etc.

Different working environments can be more stressful than others too.

flowery · 17/09/2017 10:56

She works 5 days a week and has only had a week off this whole year? YABU.

FoxyinherRoxy · 17/09/2017 10:57

I can't see any reason why you would be annoyed about it.

HunterHearstHelmsley · 17/09/2017 10:57

From your posts I'm guessing you expect her to pick up the slack for parents.

Being a parent does not mean you are automatically more stressed. Unless you are just not very good at it.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 17/09/2017 10:57

I am sure you have kids though PP? I do think that makes a difference to stress levels.

You have a very narrow view of stress.

There are umpteen reasons for stress. Only one is having DC.

Goldfishshoals · 17/09/2017 10:59

Some jobs are a lot more stressful than others. Some people get stressed more easily than others. Work isn't the only source of stress.

I found being unemployed much more stressful than working 12 hour days, because when I was working lots I could just throw money at problems (tired? get a takeaway etc), whereas when I was financially struggling I couldn't cut corners anywhere and had to spend much more time carefully planning every shop/cooking from scratch etc.

Papafran · 17/09/2017 11:01

I am sure you have kids though PP? I do think that makes a difference to stress levels
The 5 days are from January to now

Oh right, SORRY, Sienna, I didn't realise that stress can only affect those with children. So stupid of me.

Is this your babysitter that you were going to wake up at 7.30 am?

Also, for those working 5 days a week, I believe that the minimum leave is 4 weeks per year because you need that time to recharge your batteries. So 1 week off since January would probably cause someone to feel a bit stressed.

Babyroobs · 17/09/2017 11:02

YABU. People work part time for a reason - for all you know they could be a carer for an elderly relative.

pleasingone · 17/09/2017 11:02

You are being completely unreasonable. Someone working part time deserves their pro rata annual leave as much as a full timer. This attitude really pisses me off. Why should part timers be any less entitled than a full timer?
I work part time and have encountered attitude just like yours. I get pro rata salary, annual leave, benefits, everything, so I am not gaining anything. If you want less of everything work part time too.. I honestly feel I work harder in my 3 days a week than some of my full time colleagues as I still have a massive work load and I consciously work really hard because of attitudes like yours. My part time colleague says the same..

Chasingsquirrels · 17/09/2017 11:04

I can't understand why this would annoy anyone.
I think 5 days leave by mid September is pretty low, and leaves her 15 to take between now and the end of the year. I hope she is taking them!

chipsandpeas · 17/09/2017 11:05

id be feeling stressed if i only had 5 days holiday since january

Coffeeandcherrypie · 17/09/2017 11:07

Somshe's only had a week off since Jan? That's shit.

Why isn't she getting proper annual leave? Is she on a zero hours contract?

If she was my friend, I would be worried about it.

Coffeeandcherrypie · 17/09/2017 11:10

I am not jealous as such as I know she would prefer longer hours

This is awful, you're saying you've managed not to be jealous, because she's not happy with her hours? You don't sound like a great friend. I suspect there will be a drip feed.

zippydoodaar · 17/09/2017 11:33

Only she knows how she feels. If she feels stressed having worked all year with only 5 days holiday and a 25 hour week then she feels stressed.

Who are you to judge her?

If she is a friend I would keep your mouth shut to be honest. The best friends are the ones who listen and support.

Bumdishcloths · 17/09/2017 11:35

If she works 25 hours over 5 days, then 5 days off over the whole year when we're nearly in October is utterly shite.

YABVU. It's none of your business.

frenchknitting · 17/09/2017 11:38

Five days holiday by this point in the year is totally shit. There is no way I would want a job that expected that of me. And that was probably more true before kids, when holidays were actually relaxing rather than now when I go to work for a break.

Is she your childminder?

MardAsSnails · 17/09/2017 11:43

Awesome. So as someone with no children I have no right to be stressed? It's like those crappy Facebook memes about laughing when childless friends say they're tired.

Guess what. Us non-parents have Other Things that make life stressful. Maybe she has elderly parents. Maybe she's her husbands carer. Maybe she suffers from anxiety, depression, insomnia, or similar. Maybe she's stressed due to infertility.

Having a child doesn't give you any more right to feel any way you feel over non-parents.

Do you believe that all people without children go home from work whether it's 5 hours a day or 15 hours a day and simply sit and do nothing, or go to the gym, or have coffee with friends, and have zero other responsibilities? That'd be awesome. Us non-parents still have household admin to do, cooking, cleaning, and generally being grown ups.

BakedBeans47 · 17/09/2017 11:48

Eh? I don't get this. Whether she has kids or not, works part time or not, she is entitled to take her annual leave. Only having had a week away from work 9 months into the year is hardly excessive. it's not really of your business when she takes her holiday or the reasons she takes it.

Sallystyle · 17/09/2017 11:51

I would not be at all impressed if I only had 5 days off for a year and I work 25 hours a week myself.

I have booked 10 days off already and I haven't been there for long.

Five days off for the year is disgusting. Especially when you are working five days a week. She might be working less hours but she is still going in just as much as anyone else. She is still entitled to want more days off where she doesn't have to think about going into work the next day and have time to relax or go away etc.

Sallystyle · 17/09/2017 11:53

Why hasn't she had more time off OP?

00100001 · 17/09/2017 11:53

How many days have you had off this year OP?

CheeseCrackersAndWine · 17/09/2017 11:53

Firstly, it's not your place to decide how stressed/not stressed someone else should be. People have other, sometimes stressful, things going on in their lives outwith kids & work. Some people cope better than others with stressful situations.

Secondly, 5 days of since January is shit!! It's almost October. I hope she takes more time off soon.

BakedBeans47 · 17/09/2017 11:58

Also agree that having kids or working part time isn't the deciding factor as to how stressed someone is. There are other things in life that can be stressful. For example, working 5 days a week for nearly 9 months and having had hardly any time off. Also you've said she'd like more hours so maybe her financial situation is stressful. YABVU.

BarbaraofSevillle · 17/09/2017 12:04

She's had far less than her legal holiday entitlement. That's shit and no matter whatever else is going on in her life she could be worrying about whether or not she is going to be given the holidays she's entitled to and how she will cope with her workload at the same time as taking time off.

She's entitled to a minimum of 28 days paid leave a year. She should have taken at least 20 days off by now and she's only have 5. No wonder she's stressing about it.

ilovesooty · 17/09/2017 12:12

Oh do say it to her.
Then she can see you and your judgmental attitude as they are and find some decent friends.
Who the fuck do you think you are claiming she can't be stressed as she has no children?

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