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Is he Right, Left, or is He Nothing at All? Trump thread continued.

986 replies

TheClaws · 17/09/2017 01:20

My bet is on nothing.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3024189-In-the-dim-corner-we-have-Trump-In-the-dictator-corner-we-have-Kim-Or-is-that-mixed-up

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Russiantoffee · 25/09/2017 22:09

Well today I'm officially scared by 45. Vs North Korea. DH is in Kentucky- looking forward to getting him back in a few days.

cozietoesie · 25/09/2017 22:27

Let's just hope that SecDef is the one in charge.

lionheart · 25/09/2017 22:29

Brian Klaas‏Verified account @brianklaas 18m18 minutes ago
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Brian Klaas Retweeted Donald J. Trump
Fox News is now reporting that this missile launch never happened. The President got duped by an old video from 7 months ago. Good grief.

lionheart · 25/09/2017 22:30

And here is Trump's tweet.

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account
@realDonaldTrump

Iran just test-fired a Ballistic Missile capable of reaching Israel.They are also working with North Korea.Not much of an agreement we have!

cozietoesie · 25/09/2017 23:07

Maybe he saw it on F&F?

badbadhusky · 25/09/2017 23:08

FAKE NEWS!!!!!

(Sorry, I coukd not hold it in a moment longer, but I feel much better now.)

Lweji · 25/09/2017 23:10

SAD.

badbadhusky · 25/09/2017 23:10
Grin
Mirador · 25/09/2017 23:45

Apologies if I've missed it being posted already, but in lieu of impending doom I give you the delectable Randy Rainbow's latest: "How Do You Solve A Problem Like Korea?"

lionheart · 26/09/2017 00:12

Not my birthday either but if there's cake ...

Mirador · 26/09/2017 00:28

lionheart and everyone else

CakeCakeCakeCakeCake

ahem just don't tell my cardiologist I shared, she'll give me 'The Look' Grin

cozietoesie · 26/09/2017 00:38

Mirador

Given the current situation with NK, she's probably stuffing Cake and slurping Gin like the rest of us. I reckon you're OK. Wink

AcrossthePond55 · 26/09/2017 01:04

Flash...it appears that Graham/Cassidy will NOT have the votes needed to pass. Thank God!!!

Sen Collins, Sen Paul and Sen McCain will vote no.

If the GOP wants to bring it up again, they will have to bring a 'full' bill and get it to pass by 60 votes, instead of the 50 needed under a budget reconciliation bill.

AcrossthePond55 · 26/09/2017 01:04

www.politico.com/story/2017/09/25/obamacare-repeal-failure-republicans-react-243096

Oops, source ^ this article and my local news channel

AcrossthePond55 · 26/09/2017 01:06

As most of you are aware Grin the ACA has been my 'pet' issue. It was a life saver for my son as it kept him insured when he lost his job and had a PSTD related breakdown, and my cousin is currently covered under it (with a pre-existing condition).

cozietoesie · 26/09/2017 01:13

Across

Why do insurance companies need to be involved at all? (Other than history and profits.) I've never understood this.

TheClaws · 26/09/2017 01:40

Trump is much worse than I ever thought possible. My expectations were that he would be a horrible figure-head who would enable the most right leaning elements of the GOP to dominate.

Lion I completely agree with you. I thought it would be bad, possibly give us a little comedic relief while someone else behind the scenes did the actual work to make it easier for everyone. Then he would do something stupid enough to get himself impeached, or he would simply get bored of presidenting. I simply hadn’t planned on the stubbornness of Trump and the type of advisors he has surrounded himself with. He slides down a slope, but they’ve pushed him first; and he’ll get back up ready to be pushed again. He might veer off occasionally, but they’ll nudge him back to their agenda, and down he slides again. So yes, much, much worse, as it is not Trump that is in control.

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SenecaFalls · 26/09/2017 01:59

My son, who has a disability which is a pre-existing condition, is also covered under the ACA. This issue affects so many ordinary Americans; the public is waking up to the implications, but the Republicans in Congress persist in their foolish adherence to their misguided campaign promises of years' past.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 26/09/2017 02:01

across I don't know if this is true or even holds any more as it was from a couple of days ago but I saw this on twitter

Seung Min Kim‏Verified account
@seungminkim
! @LindseyGrahamSC on him, RonJohn: "We're not going to vote for a budget resolution that doesn't allow the health care debate to continue."

Ben Wikler‏Verified account @benwikler
Ben Wikler Retweeted Seung Min Kim
So this sucks: even if repeal fails this week, the GOP will set up next year's budget resolution to keep the door open to 50-vote ACA repeal

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 26/09/2017 02:03

Washington Post @washingtonpost
Exclusive: Russians used Facebook to try to exploit divisions over Black Lives Matter, Muslims during election

www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/russian-operatives-used-facebook-ads-to-exploit-divisions-over-black-political-activism-and-muslims/2017/09/25/4a011242-a21b-11e7-ade1-76d061d56efa_story.html?utm_term=.05b39c21091d&tid=sm_tw

Carole Cadwalladr @carolecadwalla
Big story: Facebook's ad tech enabled Russia to stir up racial tensions. Light now being shone on US fiasco. Over here in UK, tumbleweed...

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 26/09/2017 02:05

Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1
NYT: At least 6 of Trump's advisers, including Bannon and Priebus, used private email accounts for gov't business.

<a class="break-all" href="https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/25/us/politics/private-email-trump-kushner-bannon.html?_r=0&referer=t.co/gddQLGcquf?amp=1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/25/us/politics/private-email-trump-kushner-bannon.html?_r=0&referer=t.co/gddQLGcquf?amp=1

AcrossthePond55 · 26/09/2017 02:07

Cozie You mean how does health insurance work? Basically, we pay them a premium and they pay a percentage of our medical bills. My insurance (not ACA, I'm covered as a retired Govt employee) pays 80% of certain services, other services I pay a co-pay and they pay the rest. Certain services are paid for 100% by insurance. It's a bit more complicated than that, of course. But for example my mammogram, smears, & yearly physical are all covered 100% as are all immunizations. I pay $25.00 when I see my GP for any reason and I pay $35.00 to see a specialist, insurance pays the rest for the office visit. They also pay 80% of any lab fees or procedures. Hospital bills are a bit different, but as a rule I pay 20% and insurance pays the rest.

Insurance companies are involved because they make huge profits. But those profits are based on a bit of a gamble. People like me, who are rarely ill, make money for them because I generally pay more in premiums than I receive back in benefits. DH, on the other hand, has cost his insurance company probably over a million dollars in benefits paid out. They'll never get that much in premiums from him.

Insurance companies want to make the biggest possible profit, therefore they have a vested interest in the ACA and want it to be as 'restrictive' as possible (i.e. pre-existing conditions, benefit caps, selective coverage, etc) whilst getting as much money in ACA subsidies and tax incentives as they possibly can.

I really wish we could have an NHS style program. But the word 'socialism' is second only to 'communism' in 'dirty words' when it comes to politics.

AcrossthePond55 · 26/09/2017 02:11

I don't know either Pain. I guess it's true that they could just start the whole thing over with next year's budget to utilize the budget reconciliation provisions (that's the 50 vote passage).

We'll just have to wait and see. Next year is an election year, so we'll have to see which direction the GOP incumbents think the wind is blowing with their constituents.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 26/09/2017 02:11

Renato Mariotti
Renato Mariotti @renato_mariotti
THREAD: What does Roger Stone's interview w/ @YahooNews @Isikoff discussing his talk with Manafort reveal about the Mueller investigation?

1/ Roger Stone sat down for an interview with @Isikoff and discussed his conversation with Manafort and more. Link:

Roger Stone: Manafort’s mood 'amazingly good' despite coming indictment

www.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/roger-stone-manaforts-mood-amazingly-good-despite-coming-indictment-223127822.html

(Rest of thread here: mobile.twitter.com/renato_mariotti/status/912448500851527680 )