To be appalled at this teacher's attitude!

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Today in school, I overheard a male teacher shouting at yr 6 boy who had broken an expensive item by jumping on it. I then hear him turn to a girl and say 'this if your fault Julie, he was showing off for you. You need to stop hanging around all the boys, it's not natural!'

I was gobsmacked! How can you a) blame a girl for another's boy's actions and b) say that she's wrong for having male friends!? Seriously?!

What is your role at the school? Did you say anything?

So, what did you do about it?

Silently observing & then whining to strangers on the internet later doesn't exactly help the sisterhoood.

That's really crap.
When I worked in secondary I heard a couple of instances where girlfriends of 'bad lads' we're spoken to about keeping their boyfriends from going off the rails.
I did ask at the time why it was their responsibility but never got a good answer

No I didn't, he is much older than me and I'm not a teacher. The teacher in question is well respected and all the other staff adore him.

I will raise it with the head and ask to be kept anonymous!

It is possible that she was winding him up and encouraging him to do it, primary school children often do that with their friends if they think the result might be funny.

I think you're reading too much into this. So what if he was a male teacher? What he said would be equally as inappropriate from a female one.

That's a very unusual thing to overhear.

Are you paraphrasing or are those the actual words?

Those were his words, he then came into the room and moaned about her and said she's going to be trouble next year (going to secondary).

Did you actually witness the entire incident ?

Did you see what happened before? Did the girl encourage this boy's actions in any way?

It is your responsibility as a school staff member to follow your safeguarding policy and if you have any concerns you need to take it to the head teacher.

No I didn't witness anything just heard the shouting.

Does your school have a whistle blowing policy and are you familiar with it?

If this is real, then you need to put in a complaint about the fact that you have a teacher in the school who has an extremely sexist attitude towards 10/11 year old girls.

How old was Julie? 45?

I've never heard it said so explicitly but I think that this sort of attitude is endemic in both education and society as a whole. In all the schools I've worked in I've felt that girls were held to a higher standard of behaviour than boys, with a prevalent "boys will be boys" attitude even amongst teaching staff who would consider themselves to be left wing, all about equality and fairness, big supporters of the union etc. A particular girl with autism really stands out in my memory as being treated much more harshly than boys who exhibited similarly challenging behaviour. Ultimately she was permanently excluded, which was very sad. It is frankly very depressing and another reason I'm glad I'm not teaching any longer.

Also, just remembered I did a teaching block on my PGCE year at an "outstanding" school, best results in the borough. They had a strict boy-girl seating policy, which they were praised for, as it kept the boys in check. No one gave a shiny shit about what impact it might be having on the girls.

What did the deleted messages say?

How old was Julie? 45? hmm

That's exactly what I thought! How many 10/11 year old girls are called 'Julie' nowadays?
Practically every girl in my class was called Julie, Claire or Emma, but I'm mid-40s. I didn't think these names were used much now anymore - unless I'm now so old that Julie, Claire and Emma are the 'charmingly old-fashioned' usurpers of Lily, Ruby, and Ava

You didn't witness it, you heard it, he came into the room and continued moaning about the girl, you're not a teacher and he's older than you?

Forgive my confusion but are you s house-elf? The girl herself? What is your role (apart from overhearing altercations between students and teachers?)

The girls name isn't really Julie, I changed it for confidentiality. I'm in my early 20's, teacher in his late 50's. I'm a TA.

So you heard a snap shot of shouting with absolutely no context or witnessing the build up to it, that day or any of the previous years at school?
I would imagine teachers are quite apt at judging children/characters.

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