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To have finally had enough of this shit?

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entitledmuch1 · 12/09/2017 02:37

Posting under a name change just in case. But I have finally had enough of my sister and her children and my mum.

In short, they are allowed to do what they like. If they don't they whine. It is so totally scripted. They ask for something. Any hint of a no gets a long whine or a grizzle until they get given what they want.

My mum dealt with us as children that no meant no and that is it. But her "cute" grand-kids are allowed the most appalling behaviour for no reason.

A huge bugbear of mine is respect for my property which is never shown. I have banned them as being guests in my home as my sisters children are in my bedroom, my study, my bathroom cupboards, my fridge, my food cupboards, the lot. They take what they want. One of them took, stood on and damaged the screen of my tablet in my study. My sister sits and watches it and when I finally deal with them myself and shout at the children to stop what they are doing in my home, she sternly tells me not to be mean to them and she will deal them...but she doesn't. So I banned her from coming to my house but I still get it at hers and on family gatherings at my parents.

The little one in particular (they are 3 and 5) is particularly disrespectful of my things. My phone is a target for him and he has been trying to get it for about a year. He knows I wont let him have it and he tries everything to get it. He sits next to me when I need to use my phone, asks what I am doing, are you playing games, I want to play, etc. I just ignore him and put it away when I've finished.

But what drives me crazy is a few times I have caught him taking my handbag and going into it for my phone. The screen is passcode locked so he wouldnt be able to use it but he may break it. I have gone as far as putting my bag high on a shelf and they have climbed on chairs to try and get it. So it isn't me being careless. At 3.5 and nearly 6 they are old enough to understand they are not allowed my handbag and to respect that. They aren't babies.

There are also prescription drugs in my handbag. They are in foil blisters so not in child proof bottles. I need to take them during the day so they need to be in my bag. I finally let rip at my sister last time I caught the 3 year old with my bag and said to teach her children to keep out of my handbag and respect peoples property. She said they were doing no harm. I said there are prescription drugs in there and would she like to risk a hospital trip just because her kids wont leave my bag alone. My sister actually said I shouldn't carry my pills in my bag.......!

So I am not supposed to carry my pills that I need during the day in my own bag and I am just supposed to allow them to go in my handbag?

It has got to the point where her children are deliberately goading me every time they see me about this issue.

They see their mother and grandmother letting them do what they like and telling me to give them the things of mine that they want. Their mother tells me in front of them to let them have it and when I say no, they get annoyed. But because their mother tells me in front of them oh let them have it, they see it as a game now I think, seeing when I'll give in.

It is EVERY time I see them. There are certain things of mine they want and they KNOW I will not allow them to have but they try every time as their mother encourages me to hand my stuff over. I have to watch my things like a hawk as I know they dont respect things and will take without asking.

It is a horrible thing to say but I actually now cant stand being around the children. I dont actually want to see them anymore. In a way in it not their fault but their mother won't see sense and their behaviour is terrible.

WIBU to back off and just stop going to see them at all?

OP posts:
FlatPacker · 12/09/2017 17:11

Or go with playdoh and leave your sis to clear up the mess!

Clandestino · 12/09/2017 18:02

Or go with playdoh and leave your sis to clear up the mess!

That's a genius idea! Next time you visit your sister, make sure it's empty ( keep the wallet and the phone in the pockets of your coat or jacket) and leave an extra large open box of neon playdoh in it. Enjoy the stay.

Clandestino · 12/09/2017 18:03

The handbag is empty I meant to say.

Turquoise123 · 13/09/2017 17:29

why do you see so much of them ?

Raindancer411 · 13/09/2017 17:30

Instead of carrying your bag when you are round them, can you get a bumbag and keep stuff in there? Otherwise like you plan to, I would limit your contact

DJBaggySmalls · 13/09/2017 17:33

Is your sister acting out against you using her children? Because thats how it sounds to me.

DameFanny · 13/09/2017 17:36

I'd be inclined to spend time with the kids without your sister or mother around. Lock away anything you don't want them to touch and tell them what you will play with? The kids are a symptom, the root is your family disregarding your right to choose what to share - and disregarding your need to have medicine with you.

So I'd reframe the whole situation. And I wouldn't be past saying loudly 'silly granny telling you you can have someone else's phone', or 'silly mummy doesn't know how to say no'.

What do you have to lose?

RhiannonOHara · 13/09/2017 17:37

Leave the things at home that you know are going to cause problems and enjoy playing games with the kids and talking to them instead.

What, like essential medication? Hmm

can you get a bumbag and keep stuff in there Why should someone spend money on a hideous new bag just to stop badly parented kids from getting hold of their stuff?

I'd stop seeing them. And explain to your mum and sister exactly why.

BakedBeans47 · 13/09/2017 17:38

YANBU

the kids sound like shits and your sister isn't much better.

CaraJane1994 · 13/09/2017 17:39

YANBU and when they are old enough to choose who they hang around with and understand the reasons why you enforced boundaries and discipline, you will be your niece and nephew's favourite adult!

IHateUncleJamie · 13/09/2017 17:48

YANBU. My handbag is full of prescription meds; I could open my own branch of bloody Boots tbh. Three and five (SN excepting) is old enough to understand "No, that is Auntie's bag, you do NOT open it/take it. It is not yours." That behaviour would drive me potty.

If you have to see them as much as you do, could you insist on meeting at the park or somewhere the children can let off steam? After all this time I think I'd refuse to go to either house until the children can leave your things alone.

EternalOptimistToo · 13/09/2017 17:48

YANBU
They might still be learning but the only WA they will be learning is if their parents actually do the teaching part of it. If these children are never told that no you can't have all you want always.
And no you can't go and search other people bags, then they cannot learn either.

OP I think you will need to decide how bad this is for you and how often you want to see them.
And each time you see them, hide everything that could be tempting.
Leave your phone in the car when you go in. Don't take your CC only minimum of cash if you go in a shop with them.
And then just repeat 'no sorry, don't have my phone/money'
Every time.

WoofWoofMooWoof · 13/09/2017 17:50

I would tell my sister and her kids to fuck right off if they behaved like that. It's one of my biggest bugbears in life - anyone going into my bag. Even my own kids don't dare.

Could you transfer your tablets into a child proof bottle? Alternatively, use a briefcase with a combination lock? Or better yet, go NC 'till her and her brats start respecting you and your stuff.

Raindancer411 · 13/09/2017 17:50

RhiannonOHara - It was just a suggestion for the OP. I have a couple when I don't want to take a bag, they aren't all hideous

Nomorechickens · 13/09/2017 17:57

The problem is not that the child keeps trying to get the phone, (ETC), it is that the mother and sister are undermining the OP by telling the child it can have the OPs phone when the OP has said no, with a reasonable explanation.
OP, you may want to take a break from seeing the children, or you might want to arrive with a bag of messy play equipment as suggested by others, and get down and help them to play with it. Glitter and glue or playdoh - it's a close call.
Is anyone playing with the children while this is going on?

HelenaDove · 13/09/2017 17:57

We had to ban someone and their kids from our flat back in the 90s because they behaved like this and we couldnt risk things getting broken. We couldnt afford to replace stuff We were on JSA at the time.

REBECCAB123 · 13/09/2017 17:58

Meet at a play centre so that the children are entertained and not bored!

simiisme · 13/09/2017 17:59

YANBU. They sound vile. Your sister is a crap mother.

NewUser24 · 13/09/2017 17:59

I feel for you OP.

My nephew does the whole whiny thing when he doesn't get his own way or something bought for him but even he has some boundaries.

I think you need to do what you need to for your own sanity so yanbu.

💐💐💐

Madhatter24 · 13/09/2017 18:00

Maybe your sister needs a bit of relaxation time when she's not at home. You are the children's auntie and I think you should take some responsibility for them as their aunt. The youngest being theee isn't really old enough to fully understand actions and consequences. In my opinion YABU and maybe if you showed them some love and attention they may be better behaved around you.

HelenaDove · 13/09/2017 18:01

YY BaggySmalls. im thinking the same. And why should the OP change her behaviour. Shes not the one who chose to have the kids.

RhiannonOHara · 13/09/2017 18:02

Rain, the OP doesn't not want to take a bag; why should she buy new things she wouldn't otherwise just because her sister cant manage her children?

Madhatter, your post is a lot of bollocks.

WoofWoofMooWoof · 13/09/2017 18:04

Or go with playdoh and leave your sis to clear up the mess!

Or glitter - you know that really fine stuff that you can never quite get out of carpets or off laminate floors? It's almost Christmas, take loads and loads of glitter and get them to make Christmas cards, stick glitter on pinecones, decorate some christmas baubles with glitter. Your sister will still be cleaning glitter off everything the Christmas after next lol.

SpaghettiAndMeatballs · 13/09/2017 18:05

Pack of permanent markers in a handbag you don't mind being scribbled on. When it's your sister/mothers property being damaged perhaps they'll take notice?

It's appalling behaviour - my kids aren't allowed in my bags unless I tell them to, let alone other people's!

Sheffmum1 · 13/09/2017 18:06

Hi- what a nightmare! I had a friend like this who either couldn't control her kids (boys) or yelled very loudly at them to the extent it scared my own kids. I mean WTF! I just stopped inviting them round. Your sister is eing extremely unreasonable!! You nee your mum or your side . Stick to your guns and good luck!