Political correctness gone mad - parents under fire from withdrawing their child from school after male class mate wears a dress.

[ThaiRedCurry]

Ok so just catching up with my mail online news before bed. I've seen a Christian couple have withdrawn their son from school due to his male, 6 year old class mate wearing a dress to school.
They where on This Morning and have come under fire from viewers and the presenters for their decision to remove their son from the school as they don't agree with a boy wearing a dress.
I will just say I would find it a little odd but wouldn't withdraw my child from school.
I can't help but feel that if another race/religion did the same thing they wouldn't come under fire. It's as if white British folk are trying to be so politically correct we no longer can see what is ok and what isn't incase we offend some one.
I feel political correctness has gone mad 😖
I'm now going to sit and wait for Mums net abuse to roll in.

Polliver but if you put a boy in a dress, it doesn't make him a girl. It makes him a boy in a dress - and that's OK. Boys should not be discriminated against for wearing dresses.

How is it transphobic to say something that is self-evidently true?

Well if someone believes wearing a dress makes a man change biologically into a woman then I know who is the moron!

The child was upset because the teachers told the kids that the HAVE to refer to the boy as a girl when he has a dress on as he changes sex apparently and then as a boy the next day when he wore trousers

Is that what actually happened in the class?

Because trans people can wear what they want. It's not compulsory to wear a dress if you are trans.

It is strange - all children should be treated equally. How do you treat a child as a 'girl' if you treat all children equally? Primary school children tend to do everything together including getting changed for PE. The only real difference is calling someone 'he' or 'she'.

So if a primary child says they identify as a girl or as a boy, how does the school deal with that? The uniform could be the same and in an ideal primary school, all children should be treated the same.

So it's just the pronouns and a feminine name.

Globally the trans agenda is actually horrendously homophobic.

It is not a dinosaur view to recognise that you cannot change sex. Because, well, you can't. At most you can take hormones and have surgery to make your body appear somewhat like (depending on the skill of the surgeon) that of the opposite sex, but you cannot actually change sex. Your chromosomes will never change.

If somebody wants to live their live as a different sex than the one they are born with, who has the right to point at them as say 'man in a dress, not a woman'? Whether they have decided to have surgery or not, I think that we owe people the respect to consider them as the sex they feel that they are. I know a few transgender people, and as far as I am concerned they are the sex they choose to be.

If you are going to insult us and call us morons, at least get the spelling right

That's a deal, in future i'll check the stupid predictive text on my ipad if you make sure you read a post correctly rather than look for an insult that wasn't there. Unless of course you are one of the mindless morons who daub obscenities and spit at non Christians in the street. What on earth made you think what you did, my post was quite clear.

Who has the right to insist you lie, and say that you believe it is possible to change sex, when we know it isn't, Polliver? Why should any of us be forced to collude in a lie?

I know a child who has been a girl since she was able to talk, and communicate that to the people around her. It makes me sad that people like you may look at her in the future and say 'but you are not a real girl'. Should we not all accept that people will live the way they want to live, and it is our job to be as kind, as as accepting of one another, as we possibly can?

Oh, and Polliver, as other threads have pointed out, there are currently a number of rapists and murderers in prison who committed their crimes as men (because they are men) and are now claiming to be women. Do you think we owe Ian Huntley "the respect to consider them the sex they feel they are"?

Should we not all accept that people will live the way they want to live, and it is our job to be as kind, as as accepting of one another, as we possibly can? that applies to you too, of course Polliver?

And when the demand, as rapist, to be in a women's prison Poliver. Are they a male or female?

www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/a-rapist-in-a-womens-prison-society-has-lost-the-plot/20310?utm_content=buffer75235&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer#.Wbd6ZNGQzIV

A male bodied person in the changing rooms with your daughter perhaps?

@StatisticallyChallenged pardon my language, but if living as another sex makes you happier and able to live a better life, then who gives a flying fuck about other people's chromosomes?

Do you think that the actions of a few horrible people should affect the human rights of thousands?

But that's the whole point Polliver - wtf does "live as a different sex" actually mean?

With the exception of how we reproduce, who we are attracted to (sometimes, for some this is sex, others it's about gender), the medical care we receive and our entitlement to share certain spaces with others (hospital wards, prisons, etc), our physical sex should mean very little.

Whenever people talk about "living as the opposite sex" what they invariably mean is performing the gender stereotypes associated with masculinity or femininity. That's not sex, that's gender. And saying that you have to "change" to follow those stereotypes is just serving to reinforce them when in fact we should be breaking them down and saying that your sex doesn't actually matter.

Saying that you can live however you want to , dress however you want to, play with whatever you want to, love whoever you want to regardless of your sex is far more kind than the situation we have now.

Alpine
What the fuck are you on about?

It makes me sad that people like you may look at her in the future and say 'but you are not a real girl'.

There's no 'real' about it. Male and female are biological descriptors. It may be upsetting for that child but it is reality. Being compelled to deny reality is also sad, and dangerous, imo.

Do you think that the actions of a few horrible people should affect the human rights of thousands?

Polliver, what human rights are being affected by not pretending that someone can change sex?

That's great if you identify as non-binary, but not great if you don't. If you FEEL that you are a woman when you are born a man, and vice versa, then you should also be allowed to express that, without people pointing out that your chromosomes do not match your outfit.

I am saying that expression of your sexuality and innate gender is your right as a human being, and the actions of a handful of criminals trying to play the system should not affect that.

But Polliver, gender isn't innate. It's a social contract - that's its definition.

You need a different word than gender.

social construct

The parents are certainly not teaching their kids about tolerance, which in my understanding is embracing differences. So now some people classify these differences and make a moral judgement. Such an attitude may results in their children being the ones bashing the "boy" in a dress in a few years times.

Facts, science and reason are more important than feelings.

Male and Female are scientific terms. You don't get to redefine them because of someone's 'feelings'. Honestly, this is just mindless

Assigned what do you think i'm on about. You wrote "if you're going to insult us at least get the spelling right"
Please tell me what the insult was and to who, because you appear to have got totally confused by who i was referring to.

Define woman Poliver. What is a woman?