Political correctness gone mad - parents under fire from withdrawing their child from school after male class mate wears a dress.

[ThaiRedCurry]

Ok so just catching up with my mail online news before bed. I've seen a Christian couple have withdrawn their son from school due to his male, 6 year old class mate wearing a dress to school.
They where on This Morning and have come under fire from viewers and the presenters for their decision to remove their son from the school as they don't agree with a boy wearing a dress.
I will just say I would find it a little odd but wouldn't withdraw my child from school.
I can't help but feel that if another race/religion did the same thing they wouldn't come under fire. It's as if white British folk are trying to be so politically correct we no longer can see what is ok and what isn't incase we offend some one.
I feel political correctness has gone mad 😖
I'm now going to sit and wait for Mums net abuse to roll in.

Prioritising beliefs over facts is kind of what religious schools are about though.

They are forced to agree with it, though. They are punished for saying that the emperor has no clothes on, basically.
In a nutshell. I'd hate to be the class teacher. It must be a bloody minefield.

I thought it was a boy who wanted to be a girl. I hasn't realised he also wanted to be a boy on other days too! My ds is batman some days, a ninja on others and sometimes himself. I'll call him whatever gets him to put his shoes on, but I don't believe he's Spider-Man just because he's put a red suit on.

Apologies if this has been brought up already but what's going to happen when it comes to sex education? Not only could it be potentially uncomfortable but dangerously impactive and disadvantageous

Ok that's an interesting point Barbarian. So if a child in the school questions the religious beliefs, they will be punished? Because I don't think that has happened in religious schools since the nuns were stopped whacking the kids with canes

What a stupid school and how confusing for the kids. Absolutely pathetic.

I may have missed this being posted , but this is from the times

The school said it had policies to tackle transphobic behaviour, which included an inability to believe a transgender person was a “real” female or male; refusing to use the person’s adopted name, or using “gender inappropriate pronouns”; and feelings of discomfort and an inability to trust or connect with someone based on their transgender status.

So not believing that a boy is a girl is transphobic and needs tackling. I That's not ok in my view.

Huge difference between how Phil and Holly are talking to the mother of a "trans" (six year old) child this morning, and how they spoke to the parents yesterday. I'm so fed up of this crap. "Gender" is regressive bollocks, children should be able to like whatever they want while being told that it isn't possible to be the opposite sex, but that they can play with what they like, wear what they want. Like a pp I'm also fed up of the ridiculing of Christians in a way that would be totally unacceptable for any other major religion. You couldn't get away with mentioning someone's jewishness, for instance, in a way that suggested implicit bigotry .

The school said it had policies to tackle transphobic behaviour, which included an inability to believe a transgender person was a “real” female or male; refusing to use the person’s adopted name, or using “gender inappropriate pronouns”; and feelings of discomfort and an inability to trust or connect with someone based on their transgender status

So a 6-year-old can be denounced as 'transphobic' for feeling that a child does not switch between being a boy and a girl depending on what they've chosen to wear on any given day?

What the fuck is this insanity?

Phillip is no different to Jeremy Kyle in my opinion, he is disrespectful and not impartial.

I suspect that, in both cases, it depends on how its done Assigned. I haven't heard any claim that accidentally using the wrong name or pronoun is going to get you punished, just that the child is worried they might be. I suspect refusing to use the other childs preferred name or dancing round him/her in the playground chanting "you're a boy" might be frowned upon. Likewise whilst i think most primary schools will accept a bit of confusion around the trinity, they arent going to let you tell your classmates that they are hellbound because they're not Christened. At least I hope they dont.

As a side issue, punishments for challenging religious beliefs (or asking awkward questions as it could be otherwise described ) were alive and well long after corporal punishment was abolished ime. Hopefully times have changed.

So a 6-year-old can be denounced as 'transphobic' for feeling that a child does not switch between being a boy and a girl depending on what they've chosen to wear on any given day?

What the fuck is this insanity? angry

Crazy eh? Pushing this on people will come with the inevitable backlash because a lot of parents will either tell their kids it's a lot of nonsense or to avoid the kids to protect themselves or both.

On what planet is a boy calling another boy 'him' a disciplinary issue?

It was that the child chopped and changed between being a girl and a boy and this was identified by what they were wearing on that given day

The child in the other sons class didn't chop and change though and they removed him on the grounds the transgender kid confused him.

They're bigots.

In my eyes. It's no different to my DD wearing a dress one day and trousers the next. Nobody suddenly gets confused as to what sex she is when she wears trousers for a day.

They're bigots.

How? How can believing in facts and refusing to go along with a delusion make you a bigot?

It is different if you insist your dd is a boy the day she wears trousers.

SirVix

Yes, I'm pretty peeved about how Christianity is being attacked too. I think this couple have been totally set up. They were completely unprepared and unequipped to deal with these interviews; they don't know the ideology they are facing; they don't know the arguments, don't know how to deal with the gaslighting; they quite simply are struggling with being forced to comply with bald untruths and the consequences of that on their children. But yes, they are bigots, because the are Christian.

As an aside, I am always shocked about the complete contempt of Christian people, by the same people who will defend all types of dodgy psedo-religious practices, such as hijabs on 6 year old girls

As an aside, I am always shocked about the complete contempt of Christian people, by the same people who will defend all types of dodgy psedo-religious practices, such as hijabs on 6 year old girls

It's utterly bizarre. I witnessed a Vegetarian defend a school using only Halal meat in their meals. What kind of mental gymnastics does a Vegetarian have to perform to defend Halal slaughter?

Crazy eh? Pushing this on people will come with the inevitable backlash because a lot of parents will either tell their kids it's a lot of nonsense or to avoid the kids to protect themselves or both.

I told my child to avoid a teen swimming party for this reason. There was going to be a transgirl and her transactivist friends there. I said there could end up being a lot of drama involved, it's best to stay out of it. There apparently was drama at the pool, though we don't know the details, she was glad to have dodged a bullet.

Whether the little child is a boy or a girl is none of the bigoted Christian parents business. Leave the poor child alone. The school is better off without such parents in it.

There is nothing 'bigoted' about refusing to let your kids be forced to lie about something which is patently not true.

The child is not a 'girl' on Mondays just because they wear a dress then a 'boy' on Tuesday just because they wear trousers.

Girls wear trousers, does that mean they change sex every time they put trousers on and revert back to being girls if they put on a frock? How bloody confusing for adults never mind 6yr olds.

Prioritising beliefs over facts is kind of what religious schools are about though.

Which fact do you have trouble with?

The 'fact' that a dress can remove a penis and install a vagina or the Fact that no matter what a 6yr old boy wears he is still a BOY?

Barbarian

I absolutely would not compel my children to tell lies and deny facts to protect 'feelings'. What kind of life lesson is that? If you use facts to prove that creationism is BS, would you be happy that your children were being taught it at (a non religious) school?

If the school is going to enforce the gender ideology, there has to be consequences for those who do not comply. That is punishment. Or will they be dragged off for more 'diversity training'. Or 'Re-education camp'

How? How can believing in facts and refusing to go along with a delusion make you a bigot?

I've just said how EamonnWright. They pulled their first child out because of a transgender kid in his class. They keep the other child in the class until a transgender kid appears in his. Then pulls him out too.

Both times. Purely on that basis. That's bigoted.

"ow? How can believing in facts and refusing to go along with a delusion make you a bigot?

I've just said how EamonnWright. They pulled their first child out because of a transgender kid in his class. They keep the other child in the class until a transgender kid appears in his. Then pulls him out too.

Both times. Purely on that basis. That's bigoted."

No. If you read the article they pulled their kid out because their child was threatened with punishment if they didn't call the transgender child by their preferred pronoun. That is not bigoted. That is refusing to go along with an absurd lie.

But yes, they are bigots, because the are Christian.

They are not bigots because they are christian. They are bigots because they pulled both their children out of a school because of transgender children. Two years apart.

The link I posted was regarding the fact that male prison officers work in women's prisons and there is a considerable amount of abuse of female prisoners by male prison officers.(Abusive men often seek out jobs which allow them access to vulnerable people, remember...) Which doesn't seem to attract anything like as much attention as a story which can be used for trans-bashing.