To think that the school cannot enforce this uniform rule?

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DS started back at school on Friday and has come home with an annoying student handbook full of various pissy instructions and threats of hour-long detentions.
One thing I noticed was that 'boys' hair must be no longer than collar length. DS has long hair. While I completely understand a regulation that long hair must be tied back for school, isn't it actually illegal for them to insist that boys can't have long hair? IE sex discrimination?

I despair at people blindly following rules so far as not to challenge discrimination and sexism

Hear hear

I also despair how people lose all ability to think for themselves and think behaviour that would be dispicible in any other situation is somehow ok when it comes from teachers. Is this what we want to teach our children. That bullying and being humiliated and discriminated again, held responsible for other people's behaviour and lack of self control is ok when it's your teacher doing it? Cos most people don't accept that drom their own husband's and wives towards their children. But school? Theyd shove their own kids off a cliff If told to.

But there has to be a reasonable explanation for why a rule is necessary. Sometimes, it's about health and safety, sometimes it's about fairness,sometimes it's about ensuring things run smoothly.
None of those apply to someone's hair length.
IME, it's academies that love these Draconian uniform rules - at the academy DD briefly attended, they tried to send a girl with a broken wrist home because she'd had the audacity to ask for a green cast and the school were insisting she should go and waste NHS time asking for it to be changed to a black one

yodele, so why do you think girl are allowed to have long hair but boys aren't?
Boys having long hair cause any problem that girls don't?
When they are adults, it's up to them, if the company they want to work for doesn't allow you to have long hair, it's their choice.
School are allocated to you in most of the case. There is no choice if there's only one school in your area. And boys who are willing to follow general rules, like tie it back as girls do, I don't see no problem and only see the discrimination here.

Omg so medical equipnent now has to be subject to school rules now to?

How about as guide dog? Black ones only? No yellow harnesses?

Navy backpacks for oxygen tanks?

Fuck off

Scary to see how many people have a blind 'rules are rules' mindset.

*I despair at parents behaving like this. There are rules. Life is full of rules. If your children can't follow rules while they are at school - and more importantly you behave as if rules at school can be broken then I am sorry for your children when they go out in to the big bad world"

We follow the rules, we tie DS hair back. It's neat and tidy.

Boys can't have long hair is a sexist and ridiculous rule. It should be challenged. Long hair for girls only, just like short cropped hair isn't for boys only.

I have to bat off offensive remarks from adults and children alike who can't accept differences very well, yet there would be absolute uproar if I went round declaring what were awful hairstyles on boys or girls. I have my opinion but I accept that my opinion doesn't mean it's right regardless.

However some people seem to think their opinion is actually fact....

I want to know what men do with long hair that involves their penis that makes OT so dangerous compared to women with their vulvas. ..

Ponders.. Chris Hemsworth and his penis.

I despair at parents behaving like this. There are rules. Life is full of rules. If your children can't follow rules while they are at school - and more importantly you behave as if rules at school can be broken then I am sorry for your children when they go out in to the big bad world.

I despair at people who accept all and challenge nothing.

Either rules have a basis in some sort of proven benefit, or they don't. And if they don't - they shouldn't be rules, and must be challenged.

The rules are set out and you should follow them so yabu

By the same token, the school should follow the rules set by Parliament, shouldn't they?

If women over the last 150 years had clung slavishly to the "rules are rules" mentality we still wouldn't have the vote or any form of equality in society.

Hmm, my DS has longer hair than me, doesn't tie it back either. Strangely it doesn't seem to affect his ability to learn. I'd perspnally prefer it shorter ut I wouldn't have much luck in dragging all 6'1 and 15 stone of him to the barber.

The school has a fairly strict uniform code but they are allowed to have whatever hair colour or style they want though they do discourage "tribalism" so they say. On boy has hair like Sideshow bob from the Simpsons, it's glorious.

As the head teacher said at one point, he deals with moans about everyone looking the same (uniform) by asking if everyone thinks all the players in a football team look the same becasue they are wearing the same clothes? Or can you tell that they are different because they have different hairstyles, heights, builds and abilities. Wearing the same just means that everyone knows which team you are part of, everything else is is still different.

'Rules are rules' people scare me more than those who challenge rules. I generally find they're the kind of people who would follow the likes of trump and Kim Jong to the ends of the earth blindly. Submitting to oppressive regimes that destroy their friends and families without question.

Even the armed forces doesn't follow the idea of blind obedience to rules.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with boys having long hair.

The rules should be the same for both, IE neat and tidy, and tied back for things like sport, science, where h&s is a real issue.

I work in the public sector and have visible tattoos. No one gives a shit.

I, too, despair at people who follow rules passively and acritically.

I have recently posted about an incident near Sunderland where a school checked for the right shade of grey: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/education/3030720-On-stupid-uniform-rules-and-how-to-explain-them-to-children-wrong-shade-of-grey?watched=1&msgid=71835263#71835263

The main risk I see is that pupils may end up perceiving all rules as capricious and useless

Many schools have hair length rules only for boys.

Totally sexist - imagine insisting girls hair had to be a certain length - but someone needs the money and time to challenge it in court.

Few people down here in Normalsville, where we can't get legal aid nor afford lengthy court cases and whopping solicitors' fees, can afford to challenge it.

Ergo, they continue.

Academies, of course, are laws unto themselves and are immune to all challenges. They can insist the kids all wear dinosaur onesies if they want and no one can do a fucking thing about it.

Wearing dinosaur onsies is not a law in this country

Sexism is

There is a difference - youchalenge the school in the discrimination laws of the land

Do you really think if they said

'All girls are to have skin heads' that it wouldn't be challenged?

Whilst rock music does have something to do with my DSs long hair, it's also to do with his acne and wanting to have his face covered, someone also made a comment once about his ears being too small .

So, he is reluctant to have a short hair cut which shows off the things he wants to hide.

Self esteem is important and having a short haircut would definitely make my DSs worse, for exactly what benefit?

Oh no, not rock music. Tis the devils melody! Cut off their hair at once! 👹

Unless its female rock fans. That's ok

I'm sure Dulwich College has that rule, or did when DS1 was there.

Rock is pretty much the only misic gene that I hate. Not keen on some of the Cleo lane type of Jazz stuff either.

I blame DH entirely. Some of DSs earliest words were Leb Zepeddin.

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I see on.your other thread that you also posted the link regarding how uniform is amongst the least edge give ways if improving attainment.

One can only assume, the insistence of blaming people who question ridiculous out dated and discriminatory rules whilst mindlessly following every minute detail no matter what, is merely a desperate attempt to distract themselves from the realisation that they have been foolish.

All the reasons sited for these uniforms and these rules have been completely made redundant in the ever Increasing expense, distress, and increased workload, they have caused.

What if the consultant follows a religion where it's forbidden to cut your hair rightnow?

Aeviternity is that true? The DC's school has recently been academised, so far no ridiculous uniform rules, but I'd like to think I had some recourse if they decided to introduce them.

But wax what about all three blood awful screaming that is utterly indecipherable to any outsider? Who doesn't need some Amon Amarth in their life?? Haaa