Active discussions

Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Talk
AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Original poster

To think that the school cannot enforce this uniform rule?

301 replies

ReanimatedSGB · 10/09/2017 22:01

DS started back at school on Friday and has come home with an annoying student handbook full of various pissy instructions and threats of hour-long detentions.
One thing I noticed was that 'boys' hair must be no longer than collar length. DS has long hair. While I completely understand a regulation that long hair must be tied back for school, isn't it actually illegal for them to insist that boys can't have long hair? IE sex discrimination?

OP posts:
Mittens1969 · 10/09/2017 23:36

Men can look absolutely fine with a pony tail, it's an utter nonsense for the school to try and ban boys from having long hair. It just panders to out of date stereotypes.

Surely there are more important things for schools to be focusing on, like teaching???

quaqua · 10/09/2017 23:37

A social experiment conducted by a university doesn't equate to a proven fact.

rightnowimpissed · 10/09/2017 23:37

It won't get you anywhere if the school want to enforce it they will and the boy will miss out on education as he will be made to stay away from school it's not worth it.

Here's some info pp might like to read

www.forbes.com/sites/tykiisel/2013/03/20/you-are-judged-by-your-appearance/amp/

Raizel · 10/09/2017 23:39

Also what course? What university? Your are just saying random things as fact to support yourself! If you have proof and this is a real study I apologise!

If this is true it doesn't change my opinion but it does frighten me as to how far down the toilet society is going if people would ignore the advice of a consultant based on the length of his hair!

Haffiana · 10/09/2017 23:40

It is outrageous that the school even asks them to be neat and tidy as that has no impact on their learning either and is discriminatory against pupils that can't be arsed with all that.

GreenTulips · 10/09/2017 23:42

Plenty of kings had long hair!

You are talking complete crap

quaqua · 10/09/2017 23:42

I stand corrected. A hastily linked Forbes article proves you to be 100% accurate and makes fools of the rest of us.Sad

ForagingForFaerieGold · 10/09/2017 23:42

rightnowimpissed is clearly not educated not the "professional" she is purporting to be. She's just being contentious for the sake of it.
I'm out.
OP you are NOT BU.

IncyWincyGrownUp · 10/09/2017 23:43

rightnow

I know lots of professionals with tattoos, long hair, unruly beards, funky groomed moustaches, even some weird hipster man bunnage.

They're trained so I trust them. I don't rely on my pathetic prejudices to see me through life. You should have a go, it's liberating. It also reduces the number of people who think that you sound like a twat.

My son will be going to senior school in one year. He has almost elbow length hair. No state school on this isle will be able to tell him to get it cut, but that's just the blessing of ASD, SPD and an EHCP.

SunnySkiesSleepsintheMorning · 10/09/2017 23:44

"the consultant analogy was an actual experiment conduct and journalised in an academic journal for my university course so it's provan fact. Your the idoit it's human nature."

Oh the irony.

rightnowimpissed · 10/09/2017 23:47

Oh and all those medieval kings armed something to be aimed for!

Look it's like this op won't win in any protest against the school it's the rule and it's not unreasonable so it's a waste of her time and the boys education. All you have to do is read the new people. But maybe that's a little high brow for some of the pp

HornyTortoise · 10/09/2017 23:47

DSDs school has that rule. Seniors so age 13-17.

Also, noone is allowed shaved hair.

Which I find odd also. I understand the patterns and such cut into hair being banned (though don't see the point...) shaved hair, and long hair both being a rulebreak is ridiculous.

rightnowimpissed · 10/09/2017 23:48

Oh and I have three degrees but I'm not bothered by the retail worker.

Stacking shelves was never my ambitionGrin

HoofWankingSpangleCunt · 10/09/2017 23:48

raizel cory wolfie you can't argue with stupd. Some bollocks being spouted on this thread .

quaqua · 10/09/2017 23:50

The pop group doesn't count rightnow

TheSnorkMaidenReturns · 10/09/2017 23:52

lol @Sunny

I live in the South West of England. Lots of men of all ages and professional status have long hair. Some look great, some fine and some look pants, in accordance with the old adage that you should dress to suit yourself and not fashion. But I can't believe I even have to add in 'professional status'.

Obviously no professional contact sportsman has long hair, absolutely never in rugby.

GreenTulips · 10/09/2017 23:54

When school pays for hair cuts, then they get a day in its style and condition

Teens want to follow fashion or be different

Doesn't make in hot of difference to their education

If they then decide to go into a profession that dictates shoes hair makeup etc then thaeyvhave to make that's choice

Raizel · 10/09/2017 23:57

rightnowimpissed

3 degrees later and the stacking shelves insult is all you have! Again wow!!!!

I'm very happy with my lot in life! I was never particularly brainey but I worked my way up to management, I have a great life and you know what I'm happy.

But I would suggest that someone who would not listen to a male consultant who had long hair and tried to prove their point by linking to a nonsense Forbes article probably isn't quite as highly educated as they think they are!

But what do I know I'm just a shelf stacker Grin

Henrythehoover · 11/09/2017 00:01

My bank manager has a man bun should I tell him he shouldn't be there as he's unprofessional?

SunnySkiesSleepsintheMorning · 11/09/2017 00:12

Can I just say that it's not actuallly called a man bun anymore? I'm reliably informed that it's called a mun.

lalalalyra · 11/09/2017 00:20

Tied back or not. It's not acceptable in many professions/jobs. Tell me if a consultant was sitting informs of you had long hair either in a man bun or down tattoo on his next and his fingers would you trust him to make you better in a grave situation.

I'd suggest that anyone who thinks this, or tells a survey they think this, has never been in the situation.

One of the best oncology professors in my area has mad shoulder length curly hair and a huge tattoo on his bicep that shows when he rolls his sleeve up.

When he was the one giving my terminally ill relative the options for prolonging her life I can assure you not one of us gave a single fuck about his hair or tattoos. Only his expertise and access to medications.

IncyWincyGrownUp · 11/09/2017 00:22

Sunny the five year old calls them munbuns, itssort of stuck here :o

Graphista · 11/09/2017 00:23

Rightnowimpissed - I've worked in the nhs, military, civil service, retail, with bankers...

I also have within my social circle people who are teachers, social workers, police officers, firefighters etc and the same applies.

And PLENTY of male employees in those professions/sectors had long hair, dyed hair, tattoos, piercings including those at the higher levels of those professions you're talking nonsense.

Alpaca op made clear this is new rules thanks to a new head (who sounds like the head at my crap high school who cared more about appearances than actual education and results).

Frankly I'm glad my dd done with all this crap. Most of the world doesn't insist on children being in uniforms its outdated ridiculous nonsense.

GoldTippedFeather · 11/09/2017 00:25

I work for a very large professional services firm. Couple of men with long hair manage to look neat, tidy and do their jobs as do all the women with long hair.

Schools need to stop hiding behind this preparing for the world of work nonsense, when a lot of people don't even work in a office requiring office dress or stupid rules on appearance. In fact I do my most productive work at home in my pyjamas!

Atenco · 11/09/2017 00:50

I just read the Forbes article, there's two minutes of my life I won't get back. But nowhere does it refer to length of hair.

But by applying rightnowimpissed's criteria that children in school should look like they are going for a job interview at all times, we get that all school children should be made to dye their hair blonde, count their calories, wear heels, girls should go to school in make up and everyone workout.