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to cry for my dad, 12 years later.

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Noroutine · 10/09/2017 00:42

He died 12 years ago, when I was 18. I still cry when I think about him, sometimes in public. I pretend I'm happy crying during father of the bride speeches, but I'm really just so bloody sad 😢

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Seren85 · 10/09/2017 02:16

It's your Dad, you love him and he was taken from your life when you were only young. Of course you're not unreasonable to miss him and to get upset sometimes. I've never seen my Mum cry about her parents (her Dad died when she was 9 and my Nana when I was 6 so Mum was 28 and I'm 32 now) but recently she's mentioned how it does upset her and she longs to talk to her Mum and how she hates Christmas due to my Nanas anniversary being in December. I never even knew but I don't think you "get over it", just that you carry it with you and sometimes it is upsetting and that is normal and ok.

Nagus · 10/09/2017 02:18

My dad died 12 years ago too. Some anniversaries are harder than others. Sometimes I think I see him in the street and sometimes I dream about him.
I now see him in the faces of my children.
Don't bottle your feelings up. Talk to someone about it. Flowers

Masonbee · 10/09/2017 07:14

Flowers to OP.

I lost my mum nearly three years ago. I still miss her hugely. I think people assume grief has a time limit but I think it comes back in different forms and for different reasons, as your life goes through new stages there are new reasons to feel the loss of a loved one.

Only you know if you would benefit from counselling or not, but I don't think what you describe sounds necessarily problematic. If grief is intruding on your life in an unmanageable way or stopping you doing the things you want to or need to then you might need extra help. If you just feel sad (even incredibly sad) from time to time but you are still living the life you want then I would say choose the strategies and support that get you through those moments and know that grief and sadness are a normal part of life.

Fwiw I have found reading this thread comforting to know others are still managing their loss, so thank you all Flowers

And huge thanks to PP who posted the article about grief, it's a very complex and misunderstood thing.

I may be projecting my own feelings here (and I don't want to derail the thread!) but I always find comments such as, "Im sure none of your parents would want this for you. It's not healthy to grieve this much after a long period of time." really unhelpful.
I don't want to mount a personal attack on @silverbell but I find this kind of comment is often made in a bid to be helpful or comforting and I find it really insulting. I want to explain why in the hope that people might be more aware of how it can sound to someone who is bereaved.

  1. Obviously my mum (or pretty much any loved one who has passed on) didn't 'want' people to feel sad. She was not a psychopath or a sadist(!) and of course she wanted her children to have fulfilling happy lives. You're not telling me anything I don't know.
  1. I think (at least in my case) she would completely understand and respect that we grieve when a loved one dies. During her terminal illness we sometimes talked about when she cared for my dying grandparents whom she still missed. Part of our relationship included supporting each other through the bad times as well as celebrating the good ones. So I feel irritated when you suggest you can guess what she would think about my reaction.
  1. Your words imply there is a right way to grieve, and that I might be disappointing or betraying my mother's memory by not conforming to what you assume she would want. There really isn't a right or wrong way to grieve and at vulnerable moments, the last thing I need is to hear that I should feel guilty that I'm getting it wrong.
  1. It implies we choose to feel sad. It's like reactions to depression when people suggest someone can just feel better. I don't wake up in the morning and I think, "I'll be sad today because my mum would want me to." I get up and live my life, but sometimes I meet a reminder of what I've lost and it hits me. I'm not choosing to feel that way. Forget what anyone else thinks, I don't want to be sad. But something very very sad happened to me and it doesn't just go away.
  1. We are all unique individuals with different experiences, strengths and weaknesses. Some days I can manage what seem to be very heavy burdens, other days something apparently small tips me over the edge. You have no way of quantifying my pain and therefore no right to judge its appropriateness. (imo this is true for all kinds of emotions, not just grief)

Of course there are people who need extra support (not necessarily counselling!) to deal with complicated grief that is having serious effects long after the bereavement but I believe even for them suggesting that they should get over it because "that's what X would have wanted" is unhelpful.

Sorry if I have gone off topic...

EllaHen · 10/09/2017 07:23

Fucking hell - if bereavement counseling were to stop me crying for my brother then I don't want it.

Noroutine - totally normal. People often say it gets easier with time. Not sure I agree but what I will say is that it doesn't get harder.

SomewhatIdiosyncratic · 10/09/2017 08:28

The 25th anniversary of my dad's death was earlier this year and for a month or so around it, I was more emotional. (It didn't help that it was around the spate of terror attacks and Grenfell fire) I can get get teary, but it's nothing like the raw grief of the early stages. I also find that it can emerge under something apparently unrelated e.g. Terry Wogan's death as I think his voice and humour filled a little bit of that paternal gap.

I talk about him, his picture is up amongst other family pictures, I have a few precious things that he bought for me (DM did most buying so things that he bought for me were uncommon). Songs in particular draw me closer to him and keep that connection. I hadn't even left junior school when he died, so he was only with me for a small portion of my life.

As with other PPs, it is something you live with. I have certainly moved on, but it is also important to be grounded about your past. I think of grief as being like a scar. At first it's red, raw, painful and intrusive. Over time it fades away and you become accustomed to it and it fades into the background. It is still there and sometimes it will catch your attention, but it becomes part of you and your history.

Oysterbabe · 10/09/2017 08:31

Of course yanbu, you'll always miss him. Flowers

My mum died suddenly 2 weeks ago and we're burying her on Thursday. I don't intend on imposing a time limit on my grief.

LittleCandle · 10/09/2017 08:38

You never 'get over' losing your parents, Silverbell. My mother died in a car accident 18 years ago and I am emotionally fragile on the anniversary of that day each year. I miss my mother every single day and I do sometimes have to blink away tears in public if something strongly reminds me of her. I don't consider my grief is abnormal at all and I don't think the OP's grief is abnormal either. I will never 'get over' losing my mother. I haven't got over losing my father, either, although I have mixed emotions over losing him, due to how he was before he died. I don't see why anyone should 'get over' losing a parent. Just because you know that your parents will die before you does not make it something that you 'get over'. I don't think you ever 'get over' losing anyone.

Grapeeatingweirdo · 10/09/2017 08:44

My dad died really suddenly just before Christmas last year. I've spent most of this year in denial really; but get little flashes of "what the hell?!" When it hits me out of nowhere, it is brutal. There's nothing that can prepare you for losing your dad. Sending you a big hug OP and also to everyone here who has lost someone special.

Grapeeatingweirdo · 10/09/2017 08:45

Oysterbabe I am so sorry for your loss Flowers

Kittykat93 · 10/09/2017 08:52

I lost both parents 3 years ago at age 21. I did expect that time would help as that's what everyone told me but if I'm honest as time goes on the grief gets more intense and I miss them more and more. I would say it's totally normal. And occasions like weddings etc can stir up so many bittersweet emotions too. Flowers

WeAllHaveWings · 10/09/2017 08:55

3 years in I miss and cry for my dad, I mostly get upset when I think about him not being here to see ds(13) grow up, or watch him play footie etc. I have been known to cry at the sidelines on a Saturday morning. I was 45 when he died. To be honest the crying is comforting, it's like he's still close in my heart.

Losing a parent at only 18 is particularly cruel, and you have every right to cry tears whether they are because you miss him, you want him there, or are just pissed off at the unfairness of it all.

fourquenelles · 10/09/2017 09:18

Grief is not a linear process; it ebbs and flows and twists and turns, it washes over you in waves when you least expect it. Yesterday, nearly 8 years after my DH died, I wept because I watched a programme with Rick Stein in Lisbon Portugal, one of our favourite places.

Personally I think it is emotionally healthy to allow yourself to cry when the feeling takes you.

Badders08 · 10/09/2017 09:21

I still cry for my dad.
It's been 4 years
This makes sense to me;

to cry for my dad, 12 years later.
BlondeB83 · 10/09/2017 09:23

I'm so sorry xx Flowers

Oly5 · 10/09/2017 09:26

Just because you. Cry occasionally does not mean you're not over his death and need counselling! What a ridiculous thing for people to say.
If you had a close relationship, it's natural to kiss them and cry sometimes.

Oly5 · 10/09/2017 09:27

*miss them

MynewnameisKy · 10/09/2017 09:29

My Grandad died when DM was 18 very suddenly of a heart attack. She is almost 80 and still cries about it.

Grief is like that just when you think you have come to terms with it, it sneaks up on you again.

Flowers
TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince · 10/09/2017 09:36

My dad died when l was 8, 46 years ago, my mum died 11 years ago.

I can cry for both of them at the drop of a hat, despite not really being able to remember my dad.

NC4now · 10/09/2017 09:45

My dad died suddenly just before Christmas when I was 18. I barely remember the year that followed.
It's been 22 years now but there are times it hits me. I didn't get to have him in my adult life. I've had to be more independent than my friends. I cried my heart out the day before my wedding.
You feel what you feel. That can't be helped. It's just part of the process, but losing a parent as a teenager is brutal. It changes you as a person.

Brittbugs80 · 10/09/2017 09:53

It's been 2.5 years since my Dad died and honestly, I cry everyday still. It literally feels like a part of me died with him.

We were very close and I lived with him full time from the age of 7.

Hope you're ok. I don't think you ever get over it, it just gets easier to live with.

gingergenius · 10/09/2017 09:55

Never knew my dad. My DM left him when I was 1. I sometimes still feel sad. I'm now 48. You're not alone x

Brittbugs80 · 10/09/2017 09:59

Yes you do need to get over a parent dying

I don't think you ever get over it. You learn to live with it.

You come uncross as uncaring and not very nice. Grief affects everyone differently and in different ways and certainly doesn't have an expiry date. Telling someone to "get over it" just highlights your lack of empathy.

Often, my tears don't mean I'm unhappy. Something can provoke a wonderfully happy memory of my Dad and it can cause a tear.

Nothing at all wrong with it.

tinytemper66 · 10/09/2017 10:22

This is natural. 6 years for me too. I was lucky enough to be in my forties when I lost my dad so he saw all the important milestones and saw my children teach their teens.
I am blessed that I have the best memories x
Think of the wonderful times. I have tears now just writing this but I take stick by remembering he loves me and I loved him xxx (flowers)

BuckinhamL · 10/09/2017 10:30

Yes you do need to get over a parent dying

'Getting over' things is a very modern concept - I think you learn to live with the life you have now, rather than forget about the loss you suffer.

I lost my Dad 5 years ago, totally out of the blue. There's not a day that goes by I don't think about him and miss him, or wish that he could have met his youngest granddaughter. I fully except in 12 years, 22 years and 32 years I will feel the same.

FannyTheFlamingo · 10/09/2017 10:48

My dad passed away when I was 18, almost 20 years ago. I don't think I'd be exaggerating if I said I think about him every day and cry often. Occasionally I will cry a lot, when I start thinking and can't stop.

This may sound strange, but no other family deaths since have affected me at all. It's like I've put all my grief into losing my dad and there's none left for anyone else. I probably could've done with some counselling at the time. I'll never get over losing him. People tell me that if he'd lived a long and healthy life he'd probably be dead by now anyway, but that doesn't help in the slightest. He's missed me achieving everything I'm proud of.

Bloody hell, sorry, just read that all back 😢

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