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Would you allow your 15 year old to watch Saw???

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emptydre · 09/09/2017 01:27

It's on Netflix and she'd like to. Of course she could easily watch it if she wanted (I'm not that stupid... I was 15 once!) but it's wether I actively allow it. We normally watch stuff from there together, hence she asked.

Would you??

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balsamicbarbara · 09/09/2017 08:54

Yes especially as she's a girl and also seems to have horror movie experience. 15 is old enough to not be psychologically damaged by mere acting IMHO as a 15 year old should understand the concept behind the production of such a movie.

gunsandbanjos · 09/09/2017 08:56

Not in a million years! I hate that genre personally, it's grim and unnecessary.

Yerroblemom1923 · 09/09/2017 08:58

I found it really disturbing, not so much the horror element but the torture.....I think it's SAW I'm thinking of here.....

coddiwomple · 09/09/2017 09:08

Yes especially as she's a girl
huh?!? Confused

Anyway Hmm, I wouldn't actively encourage it, but I wouldn't ban it either. I fully expect my elder kids to watch that sort of things with friends or cousins. They'd better make sure that none of the little ones catch a glimps of it however

We used to binge on horror movies at that age (male and female as it happens). It's normal, as long as there's no peer pressure if they really don't want to watch. I honestly don't remember anyone being really affected by any of that, you watch that with a group of mates in the dark with pop corn, scream and laugh and forget about it as soon as you put the light back on. Maybe it did help to see it with a bunch of loud teens!

Somehow horror books are worst, and gory movies are so over the top that it's not that bad. You can get affected a lot more by something allegedly more innocent, when it touches a nerve.

KingJoffreysRestingCuntface · 09/09/2017 09:21

Yes, if he wanted to.

Shouldnotwouldnot · 09/09/2017 09:23

I just idly googled it and saw a bit (bear trap) now I feel funny. It's not horror that's the thing, it's torture. I watched Hostel and years later I still think about it.....

Ollivander84 · 09/09/2017 09:26

Has she seen the bone collector? That's a 15 and pretty good

Smeaton · 09/09/2017 09:27

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pinkdelight · 09/09/2017 09:51

I agree with saucery and smeaton - the first Saw is a really smart thriller. Seeing that twist in the cinema when it was first out was fantastic. It's way better than the sequels which I agree descended into torture porn and spawn some terrible imitations, but if she likes good horror then yeah, I'd watch Saw with her. It's more akin to something like Seven than to Hostel etc. You know your 15yo and how mature she is. If she enjoys the thrills of a good horror then go for it. Loads of people don't like horror at all so it's no point asking as they'd never watch it themselves let alone see what a teen could enjoy about it.

pinkdelight · 09/09/2017 09:53

(Mind you, I felt the first Human Centipede movie was pretty clever and had some profound political subtext so I mightn't be in the majority here)

Oysterbabe · 09/09/2017 09:57

I wouldn't mind. I watched plenty of horror films at that age.

AndNoneForGretchenWieners · 09/09/2017 09:59

I didn't realise DS had watched it at 15. He thought it was over the top and daft, but wasn't traumatised by it.

alfagirl73 · 09/09/2017 10:05

The difficulty with asking opinion on this sort of thing is that people are generally very divided on horror films anyway; some people love them and aren't remotely phased by them, some people like "non-gory" horror films only (ie paranormal type thrillers/ghost type stories), and some people absolutely hate any kind of horror film - will find anything remotely scary to be "too much/sick" etc and wouldn't let a 45 year old adult watch them.

Speaking as someone who loves horror films, Saw is pretty gory. The first one isn't too bad - it's a fascinating concept and actually, when you understand the intentions/mindset behind it, it's pretty clever. The tricky thing is that the sequels get more extreme as they go on so you have to consider the possibilty of your DD wanting to watch the rest. That said, the first one works well as a stand-alone film.

Only you know what your DD can handle. I'm not for young kids watching films ridiculously beyond their range, but I can't be a hypocrite - when I was 15 I was watching 18 cert films on a frequent basis. Mind you when I was 15, the horror films at the time were the Elm Street ones, Friday 13th etc... which are classics and amazing but rather mild by today's standards. I used to watch scary stuff with my Dad and we talked about how the effects were done etc... which I loved. To this day, I have never had a single nightmare from watching a horror film. I love horror films - I prefer psychological/paranormal type thrillers myself, but I do love the horror genre of films.

Without knowing what your DD has already watched it's difficult to comment, but if she's seriously into horror then it's not like you're making a jump from a Disney cartoon to Hostel - she's already aware of what a horror film involves. What is her perferred type of horror - does she like the gory stuff? If she's already into gore then it won't be a huge jump for her, but if she's more into the psychological stuff then it might be a bit extreme for her. If she's really into her horror though and is desperate to watch it, she'll probably find a way anyway.

Age ratings can be off in my experience - it very much depends on the person watching. There are 15 year olds who can watch almost anything and 50 year olds who would be scared watching Jurassic Park! What a person considers scary/intense/horrific is extremely subjective and a person's ability to remove themselves from what is fiction varies considerably, so to have some random stranger deciding what every single person is capable of watching seems bizarre to me. I'm not saying 12 year olds should be watching an extreme 18 cert - not at all - but in my experience it's not that big a jump from a 15 to an 18 - there are some 15 cert films that I would've thought would be an 18 and some 18's that I'd have thought were a 15. It's all extremely subjective so it ultimately comes down to what your DD likes, her maturity and what she can handle.

TizzyDongue · 09/09/2017 10:16

It is quite full on Saw. What sort of horror does she watch now?

I've not watched the sequels - Saw was my limit!! But I've a potentially embarrassing question: a few people on here have described Saw as 'torture porn'. Now I had (up to now) thought that was torture in a sexual nature. Don't recall anything like that in Saw - there were situations set up to torture people but not sexually. Does 'torture porn' mean a film containing scenes of torture as entertainment?

I'm not googling, despite my filters!!

pinkdelight · 09/09/2017 10:23

"Does 'torture porn' mean a film containing scenes of torture as entertainment?"

Yep. The porn element is the gratuitousness, needn't (and usually isn't) sexual.

pinkdelight · 09/09/2017 10:24

*needn't be

TizzyDongue · 09/09/2017 10:29

Well there you go!! I'm relieved to find I'm wrong, as it did seem there was quite popular for people watching porn where women being actually tortured.

Glad to be relieved of my naivety!!

MissionItsPossible · 09/09/2017 10:39

I'd say it would probably be more disturbing to you than a 15 year old who likes horror movies. When Hostel was released (I was 18 or 19) me and my friends watched it at the cinema and liked it, it was scary and gory but we weren't disgusted or actually scared by it. It was the only time I had watched it up until last year when it was on TV. I could stomach about 20 minutes of it and the 20 minutes I watched were genuinely terrifying and I felt physically sick afterwards and kept remembering the images for days afterwards.

MB134 · 09/09/2017 10:40

I would- I did at younger and it wasn't all that bad

VinsArmy · 09/09/2017 10:50

It also depends on the individual aswell as the age. I love supernatural horror movies because I know it's complete fiction so it's a fun type of scared. My dh cannot watch supernatural horrors as he finds them too scary but loves films like Saw. His logic is if it is something that could happen in real life it isn't scary (for him) where as I find that terrifying.

VinsArmy · 09/09/2017 10:50

It also depends on the individual aswell as the age. I love supernatural horror movies because I know it's complete fiction so it's a fun type of scared. My dh cannot watch supernatural horrors as he finds them too scary but loves films like Saw. His logic is if it is something that could happen in real life it isn't scary (for him) where as I find that terrifying.

Badcat666 · 09/09/2017 10:51

As a major horror fan I wouldn't class this as horror, it's more a torture gore film.

The only horrific thing about is what is done to the characters. Watched it once and didn't watch any of the others as didn't scare me, it was just another "what system is he going to use next to kill someone" storyline, a bit like Hostel.

PeggySueOooOo · 09/09/2017 11:28

There are plenty of 18 rated horror films I would allow a horror loving 15 year old to watch. Saw is not one of them. I love horror films but I won't watch any of the Saw films after seeing the first. Torture porn is not horror.

emptydre · 09/09/2017 11:36

Thanks everyone.

Yes she liked final destination, but laughed about them and said they look so fake.

She saw the human centipede (something I wasn't aware of until after) and she said it was ridiculous...

Hmm, it seems the majority are saying don't let her

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DrKrogersfavouritepatient · 09/09/2017 11:39

Absolutely not.

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