AIBU, DS forced to stand on the bus?

[TheFlandersPigeonMurderer]

First day back to school today and lo and behold, we have a new bus service.
To cut a long and boring story short, instead of two buses going on different routes from A to B, now there's one bus with a smaller minibus scooping up the odd few DC's from the outlying farms etc. This would make sense if the bus had capacity for all the children who need to use it. Today DS said there was only a handful of seats left (we're now almost the last stop) and the middle years at school don't return till tomorrow.
AIBU to think that all the children should have a seat?
Having grown up in London I'm no stranger to having to stand on buses, trains and tubes but this bus travels along windy country lanes (sections of which are national speed limit) before having to cross the main A road through the town. As a one off I guess it's unavoidable, on a daily basis I'm not sure if I'm being precious?

You're being precious. He'll be fine!

Maybe they'll put on a bigger bus tomorrow, once they have the other year groups back. Could today have been an interim measure?

Sorry but YABU

Is it a bus or a school coach service? I have never seen a bus designed for standing passengers outside of urban areas. It doesn't sound very safe.

This is interesting

Is it a school bus? We live in a rural area and this wouldn't be allowed.

I don't think yabu, there's a massive difference between standing for ten minutes on a city bus that struggles to get above 20 mph and standing on a small bus doing 40-50 mph on a country lane.

What have the school said?

Don't think so octopus, the bus is actually a stonking great coach rather than an actual bus, and the new timetable shows only one and the minibus (the minibus would be obsolete if they were running two buses)
Perhaps I am being precious

Is it a designated school bus? It would be worth mentioning it to school if it's not a double decker tomorrow, they sort issues like that with the bus company at my son's school.

There's usually a legal capacity guide above the door.
Get him to have a rough count up to see if they are exceeding it.
Obviously, if they are, a robust complaint needs to be made.
We used to have a 'Tesco' bus in my old city and it was unbelievably old and still smelt of stale smoke from the days when you were allowed to smoke!
Apparently it depends on how much the customer pays for the bus. Maybe the council don't pay enough for a full size bus?
I feel I know too much about buses......

Yanbu

Kids here are made to put their seatbelts on in the school bus.Similar rural lanes.

NU at all. I had precisely his argument with the LA about the school bus they supplied for winding its way along country lanes with my children on board. I insisted every child should have not only a seat but a seat belt too.

"He'll be fine" - let us hope so. If so it will be by luck rather than good judgement. I have lived in a rural area for decades and the lanes are very very dangerous. I would not let my child onto a bus with insufficient seats and belts.

PS I worked for a trauma service in a rural area - I know what happens.

If it's a coach they have to have enough seats for the people going - I would think that it'll either be a double decker or two buses tomorrow. If not then the driver probably won't let them on anyway, presuming it's a proper seat belts type coach, not a bus like you get in cities.

You said there were seats left, so why did he have to stand? I'd expect primary school to all have a seat but by secondary if the capacity of the bus includes standing, then it's probably ok.

You should raise your concerns with the school.

Yanbu, my school bus would thunder down roads at 50mph plus. I wouldn't have wanted to stand and this was pre belts on busses days.

There will probably a bigger bus once the other kids go back. But I would not be happy if there was an overcrowded bus once the weather changes and the roads are wet/icy.

Who forced him to stand? You said there were seats?

Coaches are not generally constructed to allow standing passengers.

Buses can allow standing passengers.

Depending on who is paying for the service (the council?) they should have specified the size of vehicle for the number concerned.

In addition, there will be extra rules for designated school services about seatbelts etc.

dusts off provisional bus driving licence

Speak to the operator in the first instance. The official name will be painted by the entrance door if it is not immediately obvious.

My initial instinct is to say YABU and I have to stand for the 45 minute bus journey from work every day. However, my bus wouldn't go above 30, added to that fact that I would never ever allow a child to not have a seatbelt on in a car I was driving (or adult for that matter) then I find it hard to say you're being unreasonable as it doesn't sit right as a risk.

Or perhaps not
For those who asked, it's a designated bus service supplied by the council but using a private contractor. We don't pay for it as we live rurally and the route is deemed unsafe to walk in any case. They are definitely coaches, occasionally there will even be a kitchenette and toilet on board so definitely not a bus.
And he didn't have to stand today as the whole school hadn't returned. Tomorrow when the middle years are back there will be no seats by the time the bus reaches us.

That's just it clumsy, it doesn't feel right somehow but I'm struggling to articulate why without sounding like a harpy

But they might use a bigger bus tomorrow.

A coach on rural roads... No, you're not being precious at all.

And he may not be forced to stand tomorrow