AIBU to think that parents should buy the correct uniform and stop moaning

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I am getting increasingly irritated by people on FB moaning that their child's human rights have been violated because they were put into isolation for having the wrong uniform.

I understand that some rules can seem ridiculous but unfortunately some bad parents who have let their child wear spray on trousers and tiny skirts, have necessitated schools stipulating the exact items they need to wear.

Isolation does seem a harsh punishment when it is the parent's fault but how else can schools enforce the rules when some parent's think rules do not apply to them? The child cannot attend class without trousers and parent's would be angry if the child was sent home.

You also often find that it is these parent's who also complain when a school is no good at discipline, yet will not follow the rules themselves.

Jeez Expemsive

How the fuck do they get away with that?

110 for a blazer? Is it made of unicorn hair with pure gold piping?

Theft in that school must be fucking rife.

Again MaisyPops spot on post above... that is WHY schools go to a single supplier because parents don't appear to follow quite straight forward uniform code... end up in leggings/shoes that don't support growing feet the list goes on..

This argument has been going on since the dawn of time.

The only thing that has changed is that uniform has become so, so much cheaper on the whole. When I was at school no way could buy a pack of polo shirts for £3!

All I can say is that my teen daughter and all her friends love wearing uniform and are proud to put it on (state school).

Most parents I know IRL love it too. And agree with enforcing it. The annual photo gallery of the indignant faces of entitled parents/ kids in the papers every September always gives me a giggle. It's become like a parody now

What business is it of any body's how much the Nottingham sad face mum spends on beauty treatments? The fact is that there should not be a monopoly on where you can buy necessities like a child's school uniform.

Unfortunately not the case ArcheryAnnie. You can pick out the poorer kids at dds school a mile off because their stuff is clearly well worn and slightly too small due to the high cost of replacement. It's a fallacy that uniform is a leveller when it's so prescriptive.

If the uniform was reasonable price I wouldn't have a problem. I would happily buy a standard black blazer and a standard Tesco or Asda skirt.

I already buy her blouses in Asda / Tesco but that is all we can get from the supermarket. Even the socks are the weird pez type ribbed ones that have to be got from the uniform shop at £8 for 3 pairs.

So uniform costs have parents in tears, how is that educational? Something needs to be done to stop profiteering from hard up families

To echo what jammydodger said.

Of course you can pick the poor kids out. They will have the small size blazer being made to last or the bobbly jumper, that belonged to a sibling, or in DD1 case the boy cut blazer not the girls with the darts because I simply couldn't afford it with 3 at the school and she had to make do.

"What business is it of any body's how much the Nottingham sad face mum spends on beauty treatments? The fact is that there should not be a monopoly on where you can buy necessities like a child's school uniform." No ones business until she goes to a newspaper with angry/sad face saying she cannot afford uniform trousers that are £16... the tattoo on her hand would cost a lot more than that. Her moaning makes her look stupid and poor boy in the newspaper with angry... poor kid feel for him

Where's the op gone?

But was her tattoo a present for a birthday or something? Don't judge when you don't know

I agree! Why are people so anti uniform? I hate the way my newsfeed is full of parents complaining about their child being reprimanded for incorrect uniform. All the sad faces kids and parents in the tabloid press because the school have the nerve to say no you can't wear that or that their hair is ott. Just follow the rules and stop moaning!

TBH I believe concentration on minutia to such a degree is a sign of a failing school.

My DS went to a school that changed it's uniform radically. Everything had a logo. The blazers had piping, the ties were changed, pe kits, the lot. By far the most ridiculous was the shoes. Black, fine, leather, fine however, there wasn't even a list of suppliers or styles that were suitable, because, in their infinite wisdom they had actually managed to rule all shoes as against regulation. What they were asking simply could not be found, anywhere. They requested black leather shoes with no logo anywhere on the shoe, no little tag, no writing on the holes for the laces,nothing on the tongue, nothing on the soles or inner soles. After sending raft after raft of children home for this infraction, they eventually conceded, once the impossibility of the task had been pointed out to them. That school has now changed hands twice and is back being run by the LEA.

Uniforms should be simple, easy to afford, hard wearing and flexible enough to adequately cover the often oddly shaped teenage body with comfort. Practicality should be the byword. Blazers should have a logo, jumpers should not. PE tops should have a logo the rest should not. Skirts should be all one colour. Shoes should be black leather and that should be as far as it goes. Suppliers should be anyone willing to stock said items, not one supplier who visits the school every 6 months on a Wednesday between 2pm and 2:05pm, then doesn't have said items in stock until 3 weeks after term starts, leaving children panicking they are going to be sent home for not having the correct uniform.

No ridiculous colour chart roulette tartan monstrosities that are a bitch to wash and iron and cost the earth. No changes of uniform for different year groups. No logos on bags, no regulation coats, hats or anything else.

Rules on hair should also be sensible. One lad in aforementioned school was suspended a couple of times over his hair. His crime, he was hairless. Bald, no eyebrows and no hair anywhere else. It was suspected he was undergoing some kind of treatment which rendered him thus, but he stated he wasn't. So first, he was sent home for having an inappropriate hairstyle, once his parents had convinced the school baldness was not a choice, they then decided he could not wear a hat, at all, ever, even if it was winter.

So what if she could afford it?!

You think rich people are ok being ripped off?

Rich or poor, everyone is usually ok with value for money and pissed off at con jobs.

And logod shite one supplier nonsense is just that. A con job.

Oh yes. We have to order the pe kit online for one week in June and it's supposed to be delivered beg of sept. DD1 came in February last year and I'd shelled out around £40 for a fucking hoodie that she tried on in June and by the time it came it barely fitted.

Fucking hell Meh, that is unbelievably cruel to that boy . What the hell is wrong with secondary education?

No ones business until she goes to a newspaper with angry/sad face saying she cannot afford uniform trousers that are £16... the tattoo on her hand would cost a lot more than that.

Yeah, bitch should've taken the tattoo back for a refund and used that for the trousers.

No doubt the next few days will have more stories with angry/sad/glum parents who tell their children not to attend detention/ignore the teachers and wear what you want... keeps the newspapers in stories each year.

I've told DD that if they stop her for the canterburys and try to give her a DT then she's to tell them they need to ring me.

I don't think that's unfair - I simply cannot afford the joggers until I get paid at the end of this month. I don't get a uniform grant as that isn't available to working parents.

How can jogging bottoms be offensive ffs. Plain black or baby joggers should suffice surely? What is so sodding special about these regulation pants?

Baby? Navy

I think when they are getting silly about the actual make of the trousers when both are the same colour and style, it is a bit much

"Yeah, bitch should've taken the tattoo back for a refund and used that for the trousers."

No but she could take her iphone7 back and use the money to pay for the uniform she obviously cannot afford ... easier to go to the papers with a grumpy face for the 15 mins of 'fame' and the poor us annual news fest

We can't buy the skirt or trousers from the supermarket. Nor the blazer.

Blazer is weird colour.

Skirt is kick pleat not straight and a specific shade of grey - two brands only and the cheaper of the two (25) bobbles inside a month. Trousers (for boys only) are specific shade of grey only.

Jumper is logoed and has to come from specifically uniform shops. Again two brands the cheap one that isn't that cheap bobbles in no time.

Someone is making a mint - the school get a cut, I know that but I don't know how much.