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Exh being a loser

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pi55edoff · 04/09/2017 21:53

I don't think iabu but I couldn't find a topic labelled 'have a rant here'

My exh and I have 2 dc together, we have both remarried and he has had another dc with new wife. We don't have a friendly relationship but we remain amicable for the sake of the kids. Both dc live with me and dh but I encourage as much contact as possible, make sure I tell exh about parents evenings and the like, at my request the school print 2 school reports, I guess I'm just trying to illustrate that I am trying my best to include exh in as much as I can in t he children's lives.

Up until last year exh paid maintenance on a regular basis, not a massive amount, less then the csa would have taken , but we reached a mutual arrangement that worked for us, he would make up the shortfall on things like more expensive then usual school trips paying half on a ski trip to France for example. I really thought we had a good arrangement and it was hassle free.

Just before xmas 2 years ago he informs me he can no longer pay child maintenance as he is suffering from anxiety and depression and has decided to leave his job to recover. I would like to be clear that I am not at all dismissive of this and accepted this would be a temporary change, assuming he would take steps to return to work in time.

In this time nothing has happened, obviously I don't know the details, it's not my place to know or ask and I feel I have been more then accepting of his situation. There has been no contribution whatsoever towards anything for the children. When they go to see him I send clothes, spending money etc. I know he does receive esa as he told csa would not take any maintenance payments from this benefit.

I am doing a degree and working part time around this and my dh works non-stop. We are by no means well off but we manage.

Sorry this is really long winded but I didn't want to drip feed!!
Dd's laptop broke recently, completely died, it wasn't a fantastic model or anything but it was an adequate workhorse and she used it a lot for school work. This is not something we can afford to replace immediately and hoped to be able to do this as an xmas present and in the meantime she is sharing mine. I did not expect exh in his current circumstances to replace. It either but dd told him it had broken. I then find out that the same weekend this happened exh went out and bought himself a brand new Alienware laptop.

I don't expect much from him but I hoped in this situation he might have thought about his daughters needs ahead of his own. Apparently gaming helps him to deal with his depression and saving for it gave him a goal to aim which has been invaluable to his recovery.

I'm really disappointed because I would have hoped if he had this much money saved he would have wanted to help.

Thank you if you made it to the end!!

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FenceSitter01 · 04/09/2017 22:11

He has MH issues. He's clearly not thinking logically. If he's ill and this aids his recovery this is surely a good thing, or do you want him to remain ill?

catrin · 04/09/2017 22:19

Op I completely get it and you ANB remotely U. My ex also has mental health issues which require a David Lloyd membership, but don't run to any maintenance at all. Anyone who uses their mental health condition to justify why their child does not deserve a penny is not a person I wish much well to fencesitter

FenceSitter01 · 04/09/2017 22:20

I work in MH. Presumably you'd prefer him alive rather than dead? There's always that option.

catrin · 04/09/2017 22:25

Hmmmm. Tempting.

pi55edoff · 04/09/2017 22:25

I think I was quite clear about not being dismissive of mh issues. I feel I've been more accepting then a lot of people would be but please focus on the thing that makes me horrible. I clearly stated I wished him dead(!)

Thank you catrin for your response, it's very frustrating. I'm working my hardest to retrain in a new career and my dh works on average 60 hours a week, we are like passing ships and it's difficult. Sometimes you just need a good rant!!

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SpiritedLondon · 04/09/2017 22:28

Nobody on this earth needs David Lloyd memberships - I'm sure the local gym would be adequate - or how about running outside, it's free. OP I suspect there's nothing you can do about it but I would be genuinely interested to know what his mental health problem was and how gaming helped ( Also why does he need a new computer when a second hand games console would have done the job just as well?)

dinosaursandtea · 04/09/2017 22:28

Having MH issues doesn't give him the excuse to be a shit - and buying himself a new laptop rather than a DD who needs it for her schoolwork is pretty shitty.

OP, you're not doing anything wrong by being frustrated.

pi55edoff · 04/09/2017 22:35

What I wish is for him to take some responsibility. We decided together to have our children, if I were to suddenly stop bothering because of my own mh issues, which by the way I have my own battles with, what would happen to the children? I don't have any choice but to get on with things.

spirited I have no idea what the hell a gaming laptop is, I guess better graphics or something? My laptop gets used for typing essays and constructing power points. The new laptop is in addition to his PS4.

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pi55edoff · 04/09/2017 22:36

Thank you dinosaursandtea

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dinosaursandtea · 04/09/2017 22:40

pi55edoff OK, now I'm even angrier on your behalf! It's great that he's had something to focus his recovery on, but rather than gaming wouldn't it have been more productive if it was, say....his dc?

I'm saying this as someone with depression married to a gamer who also has depression. DP uses discretionary spends on games the way I do on yarn and books and going out for coffee - but if there was a family financial crisis then no way would either of us be frittering our money away!

I hate people who use their MH issues as an excuse to be their worst selves.

acquiescence · 04/09/2017 22:40

Gaming is a terrible way to help anxiety and depression. I work in MH.

Yanbu OP.

dinosaursandtea · 04/09/2017 22:42

Ooh, why acquiescence? I must say, I was surprised that a therapist would have recommended it!

outofmydepth45 · 04/09/2017 22:43

Sorry but MH do not give anyone licence to be a selfish toss pot nor have I ever heard disengaging from reality with gaming put forward as helpful

pi55edoff · 04/09/2017 22:46

I was expecting to be completely flamed for being insensitive. Thank you for the positive comments.

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Agerbilatemycardigan · 04/09/2017 22:54

Just googled Alienware laptops - £1,200+ Confused

For that amount, he could've bought at least 2 other decent laptops!

He's full of shit OP!

Goldfishshoals · 04/09/2017 22:54

Even if gaming helps his depression there's no need for a brand new expensive laptop at a time when he can't even help out his kids financially is there? Plenty of cheaper alternatives second hand/eBay etc.

OP YANBU, that was a shit thing for him to have done.

PuntasticUsername · 04/09/2017 22:59

YANBU. Your suffer with mental health issues and have every sympathy with others who do - however, his problems don't mean his DC can magically live on fresh air. He might even feel better about himself if he put his dependents' needs first for a change, you never know...

PuntasticUsername · 04/09/2017 23:00

*I suffer with mental health issues

TaliZorahVasNormandy · 04/09/2017 23:01

He's a shit for spending upwards of a grand on a laptop when he could have spent £200 - £300 on something his DD could use.

AnyFucker · 04/09/2017 23:04

He is taking the piss out of you, and out of his kids

Mrscaindingle · 04/09/2017 23:16

Fencesitter wtaf? Hmm

No where does the op say her ex is suicidal. Alienware laptops are very expensive and the ex is massively taking the piss, MH illness or not he should be supporting his kids and putting their needs first.

And I also work in MH.

pi55edoff · 04/09/2017 23:17

I know posting this won't change anything but I feel better for having had a little rant!!
What would a decent laptop be for a 15yo?

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nameusername · 04/09/2017 23:18

Is your ex still working? When I saw the brand Alienware, I had an eyeball popped out of socket moment. That brand is EXPENSIVE and it still quite pricey even at second hand depending on the spec.

There are many who suffers from MH and depression who doesn't use it as an excuse to skive and shirk parental responsibility. Where did he get this money from? He's not by any chance doing game streaming/twitch or even worst giving money to these gamers/streamers by any chance? There's some vloggers who does live streaming and getting income from their supporters.

pi55edoff · 04/09/2017 23:23

No he's not working, I knew that was an expensive laptop, didn't realise quite how expensive though!
I've no idea about streaming or twitch, ive never heard of twitch.

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HelloBigWorld · 04/09/2017 23:57

Everyone quick to assume he spend over a grand on a laptop. He could have got it second hand. Regardless none of you know how much money was spent, nor do you know if anyone else contributed.

Sounds like you and your husband can afford to cover the cost of a new laptop.

If this helps your ex cope better then good for him.

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