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Situation with family member

52 replies

Numnom · 31/08/2017 16:42

Hi. I need a bit of help about this ongoing situation with a close family member. I fully intend to be told that Aibu and that I'm being bitter and I will admit right now that I am bitter but I don't want to be. I'll explain why and then you can tell me straight. I don't want to out myself so can't go into every single detail but I'll say what I can.

This person, let's call her Sarah (obviously not real name) is a close family member of mine. We have had a moments over the years rowing and having disagreements but mainly because she can be hard work, is very obsessive, and I've realised exactly what type of person she is.

For years now I've known she has created a situation were she has lied to friends and family members about the relationship with her children's father. The top and bottom of it is she is in a relationship with him but claims some benefits as a single parent. Now yes, I'll admit the claiming money as a single parent is very annoying but what annoys me more is that at first she pretended she was on her own and now to friends and family she is very open about the fact they whilst they aren't together for the intents and purposes of claiming help financially they are still very much in a relationship i.e. he spends most evenings at her house, they spend holidays, days out together etc.

That is what it is but there are a couple of things that are making it hard to be around her. Earlier this year I found out that her and her children's farher were involved in something very serious and also very much illegal. The way in which I found out means I'm 99.99% sure that this is true and looking back now the pieces have fell into place. What they have done is not only illegal but it's immoral. It also means that she has lied to me and manipulated me into believing things that aren't true. I won't say exactly what they have been doing but they have benefited quite generously from it. I decided to keep what I found out to myself but it's become increasingly difficult. She has risked her job, her children and the safety of others by doing what she has done and whilst I know this type of thing goes on I really didn't expect a family member of mine would be involved in it.

A couple of months after finding out what had been going on she came into some money, quite a considerable amount. Under normal circumstances I would have been ecstatic for her, just like I would be for any of my friends and family members but how can I be happy for her when I know previously (I'm assuming they've stopped it) what they have been doing to make money.

Of course now they are booking holidays left right and centre together and whilst it's nice for the children not one of her friends, or our family members are questioning why her children's dad is going along to.

I won't lie to you, I'd be a bit jealous if anyone I knew came in to such a large amount of money, I'm only human but I'd move on, get over it and be happy for them, but I'm finding it really hard. The dodgy dealings that she was involved in has meant she has carefully created situations to make people believe things that aren't true and she has spent years lying to everyone. If I'm being honest she is such a difficult person and has been since we were younger. She brings nothing positive to my life and even before all this she made me feel stressed and rather inferior at times. Now she's shoving her money in my face and making out her children will experience far more than mine will that I just want to scream. I want to shout at her and tell her that she is a liar and despite this money she has now, I know what she has been doing and that I'm disgusted with her. But as it will affect our entire family and some mutual friends I decided to keep my mouth shut. I really really want to me happy for her but how can I be when I know what I know. If one of my friends, parents, grandparents etc had come in to this sort of money I'd be over the moon for them as I know that they are honest hard working people who deserve a break but I can't be happy for her. My worry is now that I think she is starting to notice I'm not over the moon for her.

I expect to be told Aibu but I can't help it. Don't get me wrong I'm that busy with the kids and work that I don't exactly have time to sit round and dwell on it, and won't discuss it with my partner as he thinks she's a disgrace for what she's done, so I have no one to talk to about it. What options realistically do I have?

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Aquamarine1029 · 31/08/2017 16:46

Even though you don't want to have it out with her, you can still dramatically distance yourself from her, and I think you should. Just because she's family doesn't mean you have to be friends.

Numnom · 31/08/2017 16:50

The thing is though if I do that I know she'll just assume I'm jealous of her money. Whilst I was initially a bit jealous of that in the beginning I was more angry as she is the last person, after what she's done, who deserves it. I know that sounds terrible but if you knew the whole situation you'd understand. I know if I stopped bothering with her she'd talk about it with other family members and then no doubt these family member would ask e what was wrong. Also our kids are similar age so they very often play together.

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Inertia · 31/08/2017 16:53

I think YABU for only becoming angry now she's come into money. If she has been putting people's safety at risk for some time, has there never been any way of reporting this dangerous activities? Or do you fear reprisals?

Numnom · 31/08/2017 16:56

Hi. I've not just become angry since she came into money. I was shocked and furious when I found out what she'd been up to. I've only been able to tell my husband and at the time thought long and hard about confronting her. The fact she's come into money now just reiterates the fact that life isn't fair. I don't mean that in a whiney way like why couldn't it have been me sort of thing. I mean bad things happen to good people all the time but also good things happen to bad people who don't deserve it.

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vikingprincess81 · 31/08/2017 16:57

Does it matter if she thinks you're distancing yourself from her because of the money? She doesn't sound pleasant at all, and as if she's rubbing your nose in it. I think pp is correct - you can quietly distance yourself, there's no need for a big fight, just be unavailable, a lot, and don't arrange to do things with/be around her. Is that possible?
As for the illegal/immoral activity, you can report things anonymously if necessary.

Numnom · 31/08/2017 16:58

And yes I fear it coming back and biting me on the arse and also put family blaming me. If I didn't know what I did then I'd be happy for her like most of the family and her friends are. But they don't know the truth and some of them wouldn't believe it anyway.

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Numnom · 31/08/2017 17:00

It wouldn't be impossible to distance myself a bit but not completely as like I said we have a very large close family and we get together a lot. My issue is that I'm an honest person and my downfall is I can't hide things easily as my face tells it all. I don't like secrets and drama and usually keep out of it but it's hard.

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Aquamarine1029 · 31/08/2017 17:13

Why do you care if she thinks you're jealous, and why worry about what she may or may not say to family members? None of that matters.

Witsender · 31/08/2017 17:15

Have you posted about this before? It rings bells.

Numnom · 31/08/2017 17:16

No this is the first time. I wasn't going to post to be honest but it's hard not having anyone to vent to.

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Numnom · 31/08/2017 17:18

I don't know to be honest Aqua. I guess I just don't want her thinking she's better than me (she thinks she's better than most people) and I can't be around her because I'm envious of her.

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Walkingdead11 · 31/08/2017 17:20

If she's claiming as a single parent then report her anonymously. If her activitites are illegal then contact crimestoppers. It's either let it go or report.

Mummyoflittledragon · 31/08/2017 17:21

Constantly be on the other side of the room when she is around. If she approaches you, be pleasant and excuse herself. Talk to your children about Auntie x if necessary and inform them that you don't want them to be alone with her if you think she's a danger. And if it's something really bad, report it. What is she doing, growing dope large scale or some such?

Caenea · 31/08/2017 17:21

You do realise you can make police reports anonymously?

And likewise with the benefits.

Honestly OP if you aren't going to report her or actually do something, you'll have to suck it up and continue silently disapproving.

ReanimatedSGB · 31/08/2017 17:24

Given the ruthless and cynical approach of the government to benefit claimants over the past 8 years, I am fully in favour of anyone who is managing to get a bit extra out of them. (Between the money lost by not pursuing tax-dodging corporations and the money wasted by trying to strip disabled people of their benefits, the amount that's actually 'fraudulently' claimed is absolutely tiny.)

You actually sound immensely self-righteous and officious, so I think you should keep your distance until you develop a bit more self-control.

JeReviens · 31/08/2017 17:24

Why don't you just speak up and say what it is she's been up to? As a PP said, if it's illegal then report. If it merely offends your moral code then I'm afraid you just have to keep your nose out and distance yourself from her.

Gemini69 · 31/08/2017 17:24

I despise this kind of Fraud... there are genuine people out there who need help and cannot get it...

I don't care what your personal reasons are for Reporting her.... she's committing a crime...

REPORT Flowers

GinandGingerBeer · 31/08/2017 17:26

This is most definitely ringing bells for me too.
I've read this before I'm sure of it.

Maelstrop · 31/08/2017 17:27

Did you post about him or her renting a house, using it to grow weed, which means they'll have wrecked the house to facilitate the growth?

Whereismumhiding2 · 31/08/2017 17:28

It's hard to know if you don't say what she and her DP did?

Jengnr · 31/08/2017 17:30

Sounds familiar to me too. Was she growing weed?

WhoWants2Know · 31/08/2017 17:33

It's honestly not easy to say whether you're unreasonable. I can understand that it grates when someone a bit dodgy gets a windfall.

I knew someone who borrowed money from everyone when they were skint, and then they won the lottery and never considered paying anyone back. It was annoying, but then being a dodgy sort they soon blew their winnings and went back to a miserable, scraping existence and no one was willing to help again.

It's hard to hide being an arsehole forever and secrets have a way of coming out, so I think your relative will be realised for who she is eventually.

DomesticDisgrace · 31/08/2017 17:34

Off topic but other than inherentance, what are these mysterious ways people suddenly come into money? (Yes, I'm jealous!)

As for your OP, I think YAB a little U and I think, for your own sake, you should be very careful that bitterness doesn't get a hold of you. It'll only negatively affect you, not her!

WhoWants2Know · 31/08/2017 17:36

Oh, and you didn't actually say that the partner LIVES with her. If he sleeps elsewhere at least some of the time, it's legal.

SweetLuck · 31/08/2017 17:37

National lottery?

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