To still not understand the Diana "thing"?

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As William and harry said they were bewildered by people who didn't even know her acting in the way they did. Yes it was sad that she was killed but to hand around kensington palace for days crying? Ridiculous.

Not only desperate that they resent their father, but desperate to think that their grandparents were not only also cruel and heartless when they needed them most but that their grandfather, who they adore, murdered their mother. Why would anyone wish that on anyone? There is absolutely no evidence for that thankfully.

Fayed has behaved in a nasty way, causing extra distress to bereaved relatives with all his outlandish claim. The claim that Diana was pregnant is particularly vile. His conspiracy claims are particularly grating when you consider it was the actions of his employee that caused the crash.

Personally, I think the people most to blame were Henri Paul, Trevor Reece-Jones, her bodyguard who didn't stop them getting in a car with a drunk driver, and Diana herself for not wearing a seat belt.

It's absolutely vile how some people can look at a fractured family, a divorce, a mothers death and still want more pain for them all,, imagining the sons also don't get on with the father, spreading rumours despite all evidence to the contrary, that they are very close to their father and accept Camilla.

It's sick. Wasn't there enough pain for these kids. They need to imagine there is more?

@MissEliza, we know she wasn't pregnant. Her close friend, Rosa Monkton, was on holiday with her and has said that she had her period 10 days before her death.

She also wasn't going to marry Dodi. She was trying to make the surgeon she really loved jealous with all the pictures. He couldn't cope with the idea of life in the public eye.

It's a bit mad.

I don't understand why someone would be so invested as to hope that two young men resent their father, especially with no evidence at all to support the theory?
No I wouldn't understand that either, who on earth would hope for that? or perhaps you meant who would think that.

I worked at the airport at the time when she died and we were on early shift so we knew before a lot of the country . One of the men I worked with totally fell apart . It was weird , he took time off work and went to her funeral . He asked the shop to close on the day of the funeral too . I found it really odd but was young and figured each to their own ! I would be embarrassed if I was on the videos they are playing now of people crying outside the palace if it were me .

Yes Mittens but Fayed kept repeating that assertion for years.

I found the whole media coverage of Diana as annoying as fuck, right from her engagement until after her death. It was constant and obviously a lot of it was just made up shit. No she wasn't the worlds most beautiful woman. Nor was she the 'people's princess'. She was a very ordinary person who married into the British royal family, themselves pretty ordinary people.
Personally, I have no time for people who knowingly enter into affairs with people who are already in relationships, especially those who have been cheated on themselves.
Having said that I did watch part of her funeral and did get a bit choked up seeing the white flowers on her coffin with the card adressed to 'Mummy'. Looking back on it though, there really was no need for a close up of them. Surely their privacy should have been respected.
To be fair, I do respect what she did for Aids/Hiv awareness. I don't know very much about the other charities and causes she was active in, but expect they were equally as important.

As William and harry said they were bewildered by people who didn't even know her acting in the way they did. Yes it was sad that she was killed but to hand around kensington palace for days crying? Ridiculous.

So no one can express their grief in any other way than the way you deem appropriate?

@MissEliza, I know, it was ridiculous. Grieving father of course, but he was also diverting attention from his hotel'd negligence, I think. Diana's family could have sued his company potentially. (Although her not wearing a seat belt would be pointed out as contributory negligence.)

@noeffingidea, I also hugely respected her land mine campaign.

The people standing around crying weren't grieving for their dead mother. But they decided to intrude on the real grief of people who were. So yes if someones expression of their perceived grief is entirely selfish and causes bewilderment and confusion to two children then others have a right to point out how wrong it is.

At the time I felt so sorry for her young sons to lose their Mum in such a tragic way. However I didn't understand the whole mass hysteria surrounding it. It seemed cruel to parade those poor boys around and I also felt sorry for the driver having to cope with flowers being thrown at him from all directions. It was bizarre. The money from those mountains of flowers could have gone to charities Diana supported.

I feel quite uncomfortable with how Diana is being made into a saint and history rewritten when it certainly didn't seem like that at the time, particularly after those terrible TV interviews from both sides.

And they're doing it now 20 years later. Let the woman be and let those who really knew her remember her in peace in their own way rather than having to stand around reading tributes from strangers.

So no one can express their grief in any other way than the way you deem appropriate?

Bit unfair since the vast majority of people feel it was inappropriate too. Feeling grief over someone you don't know and never even met, then publicly visibly displaying that grief, particularly in a situation you know the persons kids can see you is not appropriate in most people's eyes.

If you can't control it and are so invested in a strangers life, best to keep it private in my view. Not take to the streets weeping and wailing. At best it's attention seeking, at worst it's deranged.

Mittens, Mother Theresa was an absolute shitbag and the world is unquestionably better off without her. Diana was a spoilt whinyarse but on the whole her net contribution to the world was definitely better than Mother Theresa's.

@ReanimatedSGB, fair enough, we all have our opinions, we would all have been able to have an honest debate about them at the time as well if there hadn't been the mass hysteria going on.

There was a tragic eruption of a volcano on Montserrat as well just before Diana's death, the victims of that disaster were completely forgotten, as was all other world news. Apparently nothing else mattered for 2 weeks, that's really my point.

OliviaStadler expressing grief about the death of a public figure in a way that imposes on their family and loved ones is inappropiate. That line was clearly crossed here.

OliviaStadler expressing grief about the death of a public figure in a way that imposes on their family and loved ones is inappropiate. That line was clearly crossed here.

Inappropriate according to your belief's, not others. Whether they liked it or not, Diana was a public figure and that comes with the territory. However painful.

Olivia it's simply a matter of respect and common decency, not 'beliefs'.

'Mother Theresa was an absolute shitbag and the world is unquestionably better off without her. Diana was a spoilt whinyarse '

Sgb, previously you said Diana was a 'privileged twat'. You are entitled to your rather vicious opinions of course, but why do you feel the need to be so constantly vitriolic about people who are dead?

I remember all this very well and feeling thoroughly nonplussed by all the public grieving and what seemed like mass hysteria. It's sad that her boys lost their mum at an impressionable age (obviously it's sad at any age) and because it was so... unnecessary and easily preventable. Tragic really. She was a flawed human being but aren't we all?

Absolutely not sneering at anyone who was upset, because feelings don't always make sense and you can't help how you feel . But you can help now you behave and some of the behaviour was definitely odd.

This thread is full of very strong opinions, none of which were aired at the time. 20 years on, people are talking about them like characters in history so negative and positive opinions are being shared. It's also anonymous on here so people feel more free to be honest than if this was say Facebook.