Dd 14, back to school and new rule females pupils are not to pull up tights in front of male teachers

[catnoir]

Dd 14 had her first assembly of the year this morning, and head mistress / principle has a list of new rules, one including female students are banned from pulling up/ adjusting their 60 denier tights in front of male teachers as she feels this is inappropriate and it must be done in private in bathrooms. Surely this is crazy?

[Lillygolightly]

Hang on so girls can't adjust their tights in front of male teachers....

So are boys been instructed not to adjust their packages in front of female teachers??

Or is it just that female teachers can be trusted not to be letchy and the poor male teachers can't possibly help themselves around children adjusting a pair of tights!!!

FFS

[MrsT2007]

Believe me if you'd taught a few of them you'd know they can be quite....um....challenging

I've seen a male colleague accused of feeling up a girl. Three friends backed her up.

CCTV proved it was bullshit.

It happens. More than you'd like to think.

[malloo]

Surely begs the question as to why we tolerate wearing such a stupid type of clothing that can't even stay on! Can you imagine men wearing something so uncomfortable? I hate tights, never wear them now, legging so much better. And of course it is not the responsibility of teenage girls to worry about the possible impact of their tights on poor men who can't control themselves, ffsake

[MrsT2007]

And yes, I've had male students adjust themselves/hands in pants. In fact we had one or two who used to whip their manhood out in the classroom.

Funnily enough I had to ask them to stop.

It's joyous, teaching.

[AtSea1979]

I don't see the issue.
Girls shouldn't be pulling up their tights in public, especially in a space where there a males. Obviously in female changing rooms that's fine. Males should not be in female changing areas. The school mentioned teachers because well it's a school, I'm sure it also meant male lunch staff, care takers, cleaners etc.

[MrsT2007]

It's not that male teachers can't 'control themselves'

Argh

It's the fact it opens them up to those accusations

[Mumof56]

I presume it's to protect the teachers against "He was eyeing up my 12 year old child" accusations.

[saltandvinegarcrisps1]

MrsT - your attitude as a teacher is really bad.

[TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross]

If a girl in my class asked to go to the loo to adjust her tights, btw, not a chance...

[saltandvinegarcrisps1]

This is another depressing mumsnet thread basically saying all teenage girls who adjust their tights ( which anyone who has ever worn them understands the need to do) are only doing it for attention/to embarrass others/ to accuse male teachers of inappropriate acts. It .makes me want to take a long walk off a short pier.

[GreenTulips]

Some of you need to go witness this in school

OP ask your daughter to demonstrate the right pulling that goes on

Unfortunately teachers do need to protect themselves and asking nicely that girls refrain from flashing in corridors and during class is a basic request?

Again it's not sexual - they need to show respect for themselves and those around them

[MrsT2007]

I can't say I've ever had tights adjusting issues either tbh but clearly there's been some sort of problem at this school.

My attitude of what? That some students are challenging? They are. I've seen colleagues have breakdowns over false accusations. Most of my classes are blooming fabulous.

Teens get a hugely bad reputation and most are thoroughly lovely human beings having a really tough time. Adolescence is hard.

But they push boundaries. It's in their nature. And we, as adults, have to put in place the boundaries of what is acceptable in our school.

[Dontfuckingsaycheese]

Maybe they'd prefer over the knee socks and suspenders like we used to wear. Much easier to adjust 😉

This has just reminded me I used to this in the middle of our office. Start at the ankles, knees, then the whole pull-up waist wiggle etc. Nobody objected to me doing it.

[RefuseTheLies]

I refuse to send my daughter to any school that requires tights as part of the uniform. They are uncomfortable and annoying and the ones I used to have to wear were so bloody itchy.

[DumbledoresApprentice]

NewCross- 20 years in a girls' school? I mean, I partly blame the impractical uniform in many girls' schools (especially catholic schools like mine) but any member of staff in my school would immediately know what the HT is talking about and it isn't slightly tugging up the thighs of your tights (I do that, it's perfectly normal) but the stopping in a middle of a corridor or classroom, handing your bags to your friend and then hitching your skirt up with both hands to pull your tights up by the waistband. I wouldn't dream of doing that in public and don't want girls doing it in my classroom. Maybe it's not that common in other girls schools but in my school it's a common enough issue that I knew instantly what the HT was going on about.

[Viviennemary]

Perhaps it was a bit off to announce it in assembly. But I don't think hitching up tights is something to be done in public. But if it's just smoothing them out between ankle and knee can't see why not.

[MrsT2007]

Most schools have rights as option with socks as alternative, or trousers.

Mine has all three, and the girls wear a mixture of them.

The only issue I've ever had with tights has been when girls get holes in them (esp the thick ones) and are understandably upset about this. I would be too.

Personally I've got no issue with a bit of tights adjustment (they're bloody annoying things) but I can understand the school setting a policy if there's been an incident

[User1725352718263]

For fucks sake!!!! Why every time someone tries to teach some manners and self respect to girls people criticise? its just ridiculous and disturbing how many women are against girls keeping their body private. YABVU and poor your DD! You should be the one protecting her and teaching her how to have some self respect.

[BoneyBackJefferson]

It's the fact it opens them up to those accusations

It s a shame that this gets ignored but then some posters are too busy calling male teachers letches and saying that they can't control themselves.

[hotsouple]

when I adjust tights I usually just give them a tug at my waist, my shirt is lifted a lot more than my skirt ever would be. And walking around with saggy crotch is unbearable.

[Emboo19]

Are they allowed extra bathroom breaks for tight adjustments? Or is there going to be specific tight adjusting areas?
I'm not sure how it would work or where they're supposed to do it! It's a very automatic thing to do, if your tights feel like they're falling down. I always felt they needed pulling up when I got up from my desk. Seen as we didn't stay at the same desk (or even classroom) for each lesson, it would be too often to be going off to the toilets and would have made me late to my next class.

[saltandvinegarcrisps1]

MrsT - your attitude that girls sorting their tights is akin to false allegations against male teachers. All girls will need to pull up their tights at some point but not all girls will make false allegations. Plus - if there was a pupil (male or female) who was determined to make a false allegation , if they were that manipulative - they wouldn't need the excuse of ' I was just fixing my tights/socks/belt whatever - they would find a way. I accept that there are challenging kids/teens and there are (a tiny) minority who do make false claims - but to go back to the OP - to suggest the real problem is girls pulling up their tights is ridiculous.

[BannedFromNarnia]

I meant to say earlier - one of the great and joyous things about a girls' school is that it is all girls together and you have the freedom to do stuff like this without being sexualised for it. I'm with the OP, it's a discriminatory rule.

[MrsT2007]

We had to wear hideous knitted tights for school. They were proper Nora batty jobs.

I still wouldn't have gone round hitching them up. Yes it may be necessary but I think it's very....undignified (?) an action to do in public.

TBH it's why I teach in trousers 99 days out of 100. Tights are a bloody nuisance.

[saltandvinegarcrisps1]

Some of the posts on here make me think we are living under sharia law. Teaching his self respect - keeping their bodies private - adjusting in private - common decency - not flashing in corridors etc. The problem is the bloody tights - not the females