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Reach your kids some fucking consideration! [ranty]

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someonestolemynick · 29/08/2017 15:22

This has been inspired by the mummy who let her two charming kids scoot around Tesco. But it also goes out to the geniuses who keep their little darlings watch Peppa Pig on the bus or the pub. The parent who doesn't think it necessary to teach their kids that the appropriate response to bumping into another human is to apologise.
I have noticed this more and more: children (being children) act loud, entitled or aggressive and the accompanying adult smiles indulgently rather than correcting behaviour that infringes on others.

Ianbu Grin

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MerchantofVenice · 30/08/2017 14:31

It's good to know someone agrees with me mumzuki !

TakeMe2Insanity · 30/08/2017 14:32

The problem isn't children it is adults.

At breakfast in a hotel, man decides to watch goodness knows what on full volume. No one needs to hear that. Or if he did buy headphones.

The woman who was sat beside me in a private ultra sound clinic (so pin drop silence) who insisted on watching a video with the sound on her phone but held up towards my ear. I can imagine when her child is born will be the peppa pig without head phones type.

Simarlarly the 3 year old on a 5!hour flight who watched the ipad non stop at full volume, it was her dad in charge of the ipad and lack of headphones.

Just as I get the tutting from people for having my son in reins. My choice. But I know my toddler, I know he is likely to run infront of people, wander off etc.

The bigger issue is how to change the thought process of adults.

MerchantofVenice · 30/08/2017 14:33

Ok, so are you saying the problem is all adults. Makes a change from just all parents I suppose...

TakeMe2Insanity · 30/08/2017 14:38

I'm saying adults who happen to be parents and adults who don't happen to be parents are both guilty of public unawareness and selfishness; however I am not saying all adults.

MerchantofVenice · 30/08/2017 14:56

Takeme Ok, I'll take that point. I don't disagree that there are many asshats out there being annoying.

I think what I object to is the idea, perpetuated by some on this thread that a) people in the past were all morally and behaviourally better and b) modern parents are crap. Those are unpleasant generalisations that can't realistically be true.

Society is different now. It's busier, more frantic, more anonymous and, in some ways, more stressful. And there is more potential for us to be annoyed by our fellow people.

DoesHeWantToOrNot · 30/08/2017 15:38

In my local Morrison's last night there were 3 young boys about 9/10 going round the store on bikes! They nearly hit dd in her buggy.

grannytomine · 30/08/2017 15:40

Well, I imagine most old, ill people are hardly going to notice the minimal amount of noise coming from a Peppa Pig episode, or will probably have far more important things to worry about. A hospital waiting room is a pretty horrifying experience for everyone. No one goes there to enjoy themselves/soak up the peace and quiet! As an old person who has more than my fair share of hospital in the last 18 months can I just add that I would much rather have Peppa Piig than performance parenting. I really don't want to listen to the loud affected voice or the theatrical storytelling. PeppaPig really doesn't bother me.

The other thing I find irritating is when some poor mother who is doing her best is told that everyone will hate her because she lets her 2 year old watch PeppaPig for ten minutes. So can I say to all those mums that I don't hate you and I'm sure I'm not alone. Watching your happy 2 year old has probably made my day.

domesticatedidiot · 30/08/2017 15:51

It's because they're being raised by people who don't care about manners, or just don't have any.

MerchantofVenice · 30/08/2017 17:04

That's it grannytomine - most parents are doing their best, and occasionally that involves a bit of Peppa Pig...!

DailyMailReadersAreThick · 30/08/2017 17:20

The other thing I find irritating is when some poor mother who is doing her best is told that everyone will hate her because she lets her 2 year old watch PeppaPig for ten minutes. So can I say to all those mums that I don't hate you and I'm sure I'm not alone. Watching your happy 2 year old has probably made my day.

Well I hate you for being so selfish that you don't care about anyone around you.

MerchantofVenice · 30/08/2017 17:27

Specific sensory issues aside, do some of you really demand silence when you're out and and about? I'm still wondering about just how noisy these fabled episodes of Peppa Pig are. There's noise everywhere! Ten minutes of a fairly low-key kids' programme barely registers, surely? (Awaits assurance that, in fact, Peppa Pig is noisier than traffic, adult conversation, train announcements and pneumatic drills.)

DisorderedAllsorts · 30/08/2017 17:35

I agree with the opinion that a generation of youngsters are being brought up by parents who don't have any manners.

My friend doesn't believe in disciplining children or teaching them to be considerate towards others. She thinks rules inhibit a child's development which is why her eldest has been expelled from his last school. She's relocated closer to her parents citing that the local schools in previous area were rubbish. This is a load of tripe, she won't acknowledge the fact that none of the schools in her old area will have him. Her children are wild, mine aren't angels either but I do try to instill some manners and considerate towards others. I don't like to see her anymore because it's stressful when we're out with her kids.

MerchantofVenice · 30/08/2017 17:38

With respect, your friend doesn't equate to 'a generation of youngsters'.

DisorderedAllsorts · 30/08/2017 17:47

MerchantofVenice No that's right but I do see a lot of parents whilst out & about who don't step in when their kids inconvenience others. I used my friend as an example as I know her personally & she does object to rules for kids. I can't claim to know what motivates other parents but I do know my friend's thoughts towards this subject.

Gingefringe · 30/08/2017 18:02

Just got back off holiday where the toddler in the seat behind was allowed to kick my seat for the duration of the 3 hour flight despite my asking the parent nicely if they could stop. Also a couple of very noisy toddlers allowed to run up and down the aisle whilst the parents were completely oblivious to the other passengers.

MerchantofVenice · 30/08/2017 18:11

Ok, for balance, when you was a child in the 80s, there were some proper little shits about. Kicking the back of an aeroplane seat would have been peanuts to them. There were little boys in my infant school who would swear at passing pensioners from the school fields. One girl got expelled from school for stealing, and her mum laughed about it.

Does that prove that children in the 80s were worse than any other generation?

MerchantofVenice · 30/08/2017 18:12

*I was, not 'you was' Grin I have no idea how old you are!

Deathraystare · 30/08/2017 18:29

Scooters in my local museum are pretty standard.

I can go one better! Was watching King's 24 hours in A&E ages ago. A grandmother had brought in her grandson. Can't remember what was wrong with him or her but he was scooting around in a hospital!!!!

BitOutOfPractice · 30/08/2017 18:31

My on hour + wait for my car to be MOTed today was accompanied by a child (4 or 5yo) screaming / screeching at the top of her voice while running round and round reception. That was fun Hmm

BitOutOfPractice · 30/08/2017 18:33

I'm still wondering about just how noisy these fabled episodes of Peppa Pig are.

It's not the volume per se. It's their plinky plonky fingernails-down-a-blackboard irritating nature, it just seems to cut through other stuff and jangle the nerves. True science fact! Wink

Martinachick · 30/08/2017 18:36

Yes sadly becoming common. The children will not do well in life bring brought up this way

Evelynismyspyname · 30/08/2017 18:38

Has anyone trotted out the Socrates quotation yet?

Something about how children of (his) today (so 2000 odd years ago) had bad manners, contempt for authority; disrespect their elders etc.

MerchantofVenice · 30/08/2017 18:38

BitOutOfPractice Ah- ha! As I suspected! It's not the volume but the nature of the disturbance! I half suspect that some posters would prefer the constant sounds of leery men catcalling a succession of women from the nearest window... At least then the natural order would be preserved! But children being catered for in public??

MerchantofVenice · 30/08/2017 18:42

Martina Evidence? Can you prove these children will do worse than, say, those who were left to their own devices throughout those carefree summers of old, and taught that adults were always right, and threatened with the cane at school? It all seems a bit... Daily Mail to me.

Thisworldsnofun · 30/08/2017 18:48

I was in a shop with my DS(4) the other week. He wanted to look at the toys but 2 women were blocking them. He walked up to them and said excuse me but they completely blanked him! He turned back to me then and said, "that didn't work". Its not always the kids and their parents that are at fault! Seriously why should I teach my ds to be quiet and polite if his efforts get ignored?!