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To not want to always be thought of as lazy?

66 replies

NormaDesmondsEyebrows · 24/08/2017 10:42

I've just come back from a week away with my parents. I do usuallly keep contact to a minimum that I can handle as my mother has form, but this was a holiday for the kids.

The holiday was at our friends' villa with a pool. Dh and I were very clear before we went that I would be mainly relaxing while he did lots of swimming with the kids, playing pool, table tennis etc. I obviously joined in at times but this was what we BOTH wanted from the holiday.

I have terrible mental health and have reached a good balance over the past year by knowing my limits, getting plenty of down time (alone time included) and generally looking after myself. My mum claimed to be totally on board with this.

During the week I made sure I kept everything tidy, prepared meals and cleared up and paid more than our share for meals out etc.

Throughout the week there were a few snipes, mostly 'banter' about how good DH is to me (he is!) and what a princess I am. When I was cleaning etc I got 'oh that makes a change'. Mum regaled our friends with tales of my slatternly ways, that all I do is watch tv all day while DH slaves (not true!), that I'm lazy and would be better off getting a job (categorically not true). That my house is a constant mess (it's not, but my mother is totally anal about cleaning and tidying). By the end of the week our friends had started to join in, one night I said at dinner (late) that I was looking forward to bed and our host said quite pointedly that I needed to wash up first as mum had helped cook. I would have done anyway, so it stung a bit and I'm sure came from my mum needling.

On the flight out I sat with the younger kids and dh sat behind. On the way back he asked if he could sit with them so I sat across the aisle. Cue a tirade from my mum about how I've done no parenting all week and now I'm palming it off again.

All the way home her 'banter' morphed into out and out slagging, apparently I wasted two whole days because I was hungover. This is absolutely not the case, they were days following 'big' days, one a party and one a morning walking round a very busy market before walking into the village and having a long meal before walking back. Yes I was drinking, probably not as much as everyone else tbh, but I wasn't hungover. I was wiped out and so I had two restful days but I still participated, I just took time out in the afternoons to sit and read and sleep. Which is exactly what we'd explained I'd be doing to avoid a horrible crash.

There's more along the same lines but this has got very long already.

When we got home my lovely MiL had taken several loads of dirty washing to their house, washed it, ironed it, and brought it back (they were in feeding the cat) and I just lost the plot. MiL meant it kindly but it just tipped me over.

Is there any way I can stop people thinking I'm lazy? I have been called lazy my entire life by my mother in particular, but also my whole family and family friends, and despite my best efforts to prove I'm not, nothing ever changes.

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KimmySchmidt1 · 24/08/2017 10:48

Your mother is toxic. There may be mental health issues of her own why she has reacted like this to your own mental health issues (perhaps she was secretly poorly when you were children but was unable to address it head on?) but frankly that is by the by.

See much less of her.

You know the truth about whether you lean on your husband too much. Be honest with yourself about that and about what you can handle (versus what you tell yourself you can handle) and don't lose sight of the reality of that situation for your husband and communicate with him openly about it. But stop listening to your mother.

NormaDesmondsEyebrows · 24/08/2017 10:52

I should say that dh doesn't enjoy sitting around the pool, he wanted to be swimming and mucking about with them. I did a fair amount too, but also did a fair amount of sitting in the shade watching them. So what we were doing suited all of us.

I do everything at home as dh works long hours. So he was really looking forward to lots of free time with the kids, and I was looking forward to a nice break. It's not how we live day to day iyswim.

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Ummmmgogo · 24/08/2017 10:52

tricky one. We all like a rest but compared to the others your holiday does sound a lot lazier and I can see why it would grate on the rest of them.

NormaDesmondsEyebrows · 24/08/2017 10:53

Thank you. I suppose my aibu should be 'how can I deal with it' rather than 'how can I stop the digs'.

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stitchglitched · 24/08/2017 10:56

I think if you are on holiday with your husband and kids alone then you can be as lazy as you like. I don't think it's on though if you are being hosted by others, especially as you say the host made pointed comments about how you needed to wash up. Do you think you left the others to pick up the slack a bit too much?

Haudyerwheesht · 24/08/2017 10:56

You just have to ignore ignore ignore.

How old are the dc?

Ummmmgogo · 24/08/2017 10:57

Your only options for dealing with it are to help out more or ignore their digs really. sorry for stating the obvious! xx

bootygirl · 24/08/2017 10:57

Not sure you can my family do something similar. I have autoimmune condition. But according to my siblings it's cured 🙄
They don't call me lazy, but critize my perenting, apparently I am too soft with my 2 sons both SN....
My DH does a lot around the house but that is because I use all my energy working full time. He is a great cook & if we have people over he cooks. However my family tell everyone including colleagues of mine that I never cook! When in fact I do all the planning, shopping and 80% of it.
And it fucking drives me mad! If you and your DH are happy with the set up then that is all that matters. We Never go away with other people as I do think a lot of the time it ends in someone being upset... my only advice would be to ignore. It is nt going to change.... but nor do you have to change..

shivermytimbers · 24/08/2017 10:58

Don't engage with any of your mum's nonsense. Just look blankly at her every time she says something stupid and then change the subject.
With the MIL though, I'd say thanks very much and leave it at that (I'd love someone to come and do my washing!)

NormaDesmondsEyebrows · 24/08/2017 10:58

I really really did more than my fair share. The irony is that other than a bit of clearing the table and helping prep meals (which I did as well), she basically just sat around in the sun all week.

Dc are two teens and a five yo.

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NormaDesmondsEyebrows · 24/08/2017 11:00

Oh and I am very grateful to my MiL, it just pushed a button when I got home and I had a bit of a meltdown Blush

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minoandolphin · 24/08/2017 11:00

Don't go on holiday with your mum again. Just go with your DH and kids (sounds like he is being very supportive which is lovely; although did he stick up for you when your mum and 'friends' started laying into you?)

Apologise to your MIL - unless she's the sort to do your washing to make some sort of point, she was trying to help you out and give you some support.

araiwa · 24/08/2017 11:01

The only way to show youre not lazy is by doing stuff and not being lazy.

Acopyofacopy · 24/08/2017 11:01

You need to change who you go on holiday with!
Taking turns sitting with the dc on the plane is only fair.
Doing the absolute bare minimum, relaxing and letting dh have quality time with the children is what a holiday is for, isn't it?

I'll swap you for your mil. What a lovely gift to look after the house and do some laundry.

If you and your dh are happy that is all that matters. You seem to be very good at balancing things out. No need to be a martyr.

YoullShootYourEyeOut · 24/08/2017 11:02

Holidays are about being lazy if you want to! Knowing your limits and having a self care plan in place for your MH issues is absolutely the right thing to do, you are making sure that you don't get too ill to be there for your family which is certainly not lazy or selfish! I am guilty of doing the opposite at times and going out etc, when I am really not feeling good and this has a negative effect on me and then on the kids (which isn't fair). Don't listen to your Mum, she is being spiteful and mean in my opinion, live your life in the way you and your family need you to and ignore those who don't or won't understand.

stitchglitched · 24/08/2017 11:02

If you defintely did your fair share then just avoid shared holidays etc in future, your Mum sounds very unkind. Your MIL sounds great though!

ExPresidents · 24/08/2017 11:03

Taken at face value, from what you say you did have a very relaxing holiday (which is lovely) while your DH and others did more to help out or look after the children.

It also sounds as though you don't have a job (sorry if I've got that wrong) and I assume at least some of the rest of the party do, so I could see why people who work long hours then come away and see somebody who doesn't work taking lots of time for themselves while they do the majority of the household work would grate.

It sounds as though you and your DH are both happy with your set up which really is the only thing that matters, so I would recommend not going on holiday with other people who don't know this and won't understand your family dynamic. It obviously hasn't made you happy.

I'm not saying you are lazy or didn't do anything but I could understand how it would appear that way to others, from what you said.

I also think you owe your poor MIL an apology!

I hope your mental health improves and you feel happier now that you're home.

NormaDesmondsEyebrows · 24/08/2017 11:03

Oh I didn't melt down in front of MiL!

Yes, we've decided that although the holiday was mostly lovely, we won't repeat it. He would rather have had more time to muck about with the kids and everyone else wanted to go out to markets and restaurants every day. He does stick up for me but my mum is a very strong personality so it gets a bit drowned out.

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Sweetpea302 · 24/08/2017 11:03

That can be the problem with spending time with people who've known you a long time - they rarely stop to reconsider their (sometimes totally incorrect in the first place!) views of you. My family all think I'm a worrier and an over thinker and usually dismiss my concerns about things because apparently I "worry about everything". I used to do this terribly, but am now much better - it drives me mad that none of them have actually recognised that I'm a totally different person to what I used to be! I deal with it by occasionally standing up for myself (when it's an example of something actually justifying me worrying about) but mostly by recognising that it really is all about them and not about me.

Mental health issues are so misunderstood and the chances are that your family have seen the symptoms, but not thought sympathetically about the cause. Perhaps your MIL has, and that's why she did such a kind thing. It could also be that your mother got an idea in her head about you at a young age and it stuck; then everyone else lazily joined in. When you have an idea about a person, it's often easy to find examples to back that idea up. It's much easier to do that then to form new ideas!

Your mother sounds like she has issues of her own and her need to put you down in such an unsupportive way probably says lots about her view of the world.

It sounds like your DH knows that it's BS so if I were you I would focus on that. The person who you live with, who knows you better than anyone, knows that it's not true. I would also either limit the time that I spent with the people who have that impression of you (certainly no relaxing holidays!) or just let it wash over me and repeat "this is not about me, it's about them" over and over in my head!

Well done for managing your mental health issues so well btw. Don't let your anxiety around this drag you down.

SleepFreeZone · 24/08/2017 11:03

I think your first mistake was going away for a week with your parents. Why would you set yourself up in that way? If she has always been horribly toxic and bullying there is no way in hell I would have gone away with them. Holidays are meant to be relaxing. That's the point!

QueenLaBeefah · 24/08/2017 11:04

Don't go on holiday with your mum again.

If she was a martyr about housework that's her look out in life.

NormaDesmondsEyebrows · 24/08/2017 11:06

The only person who works is DH! Everyone else there is retired and living a life of relative luxury. This was my parents fourth holiday this year and they have several more booked. This is our only holiday and the first in two years.

I don't work but I do volunteer and do 100% of the housework.

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FadedRed · 24/08/2017 11:08

Stop trying to 'please' people, especially your mother.
Don't ever go on holiday with her again. Ever. Never ever. Just don't. Have I made myself clear on this? Never ever ever. Smile
Have less contact with her, preferably somewhere neutral and public if possible, go for coffee, a couple of hours shopping, garden centres or similar where she can't rant without looking a prat in a public space.
Don't over share the details of your life, health etc as you know that you just give her another stick to beat you with.
Pretend in front of her that you are not bothered by her negative comments. Do this for long enough and eventually you won't be pretending any more. Learn some strategies to change the subject. When she realises that her bullying is not affecting you, she will hopefully back off.
You might want to try something that will make you feel more positive in yourself. Given your health issues, then something gentle like Tai Chi, Chi Gong or yoga will help you get some headspace IYSWIM and inner calmness to deal with other people's negativity.
As long as you and your DH and DC's are generally ok and happy, then that is all that really matters.

NormaDesmondsEyebrows · 24/08/2017 11:08

Yes it was a rookie error going away with them but we were clear about our plans and expectations before we went and she paid lip service to understanding that. In the run up she has been oh so caring about my need to look after myself, it just all fell away while we were out there.

Lesson learned.

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diddl · 24/08/2017 11:10

Perhaps you were "lazy" on this holiday-it's subjective!

But if you & your husband had organised it as you two wanted it then it's nobody elses business.

Why would you holiday with someone who thinks so badly of you & how come there was so much washing that your MIL did?