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Trouble with controlling DM. AIBU and a stroppy cow or is her behaviour a bit controlling

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gingergenius · 21/08/2017 22:43

On holiday with the kids in the West Country, bear my mum. My mum is lovely and always wanting to do nice things/pay for trips etc and I'm always very grateful, and very appreciate of her support. As a bit of history, She moved up north when I was 18 and in college so I stayed put. I've looked after myself for a very long time. I'm a single parent to 3 kids and manage a business, my home, a dog etc etc. Basically, I'm a competent adult and have been for the past 30 years!

She moved down to where she is now with her current husband in a little cottage, about 16 years ago, and as its tiny, there is no room for us to stay. She very kindly pays towards the cost of a little holiday cottage so we can visit and spend time with her in school hols. Also because her husband doesn't 'do kids' - so we don't annoy him!

So it's quite an intense week. She means well and she loves us all dearly (as do we love her) but I'm finding myself getting more and more snappy because she second guesses, overrides, butts in, talks over and generally questions every single decision I make either for myself or about my children. She belittles and scoffs at my choices and will ALWAYS, without fail, try to impose her decision upon me. She is like this with others so it's not my imagination.

I snapped at her a few times today because she was criticising my sat-nav-guided route home from a trip out because 'she wasn't familiar with where we were and it made her anxious. I was driving in unfamiliar territory and her constant verbal worrying was stressful and I had to, as kindly as I could ask her to keep calm because it was making my job as driver much harder.

I understand her anxiety and I really try to be sympathetic but it's exhausting having to stick up for decisions I've made that are sound, and keep to my boundaries (I didn't talk to her for nearly a year several years ago, because of similar issues).

Examples are:
I took the cottage key with me. She wanted me to leave it in the outdoor safe, like she'd done with hers. I said I would prefer to take my keys. She repeated herself 4-5 times before I snapped and told her she needed to accept my decision .

I wanted to take the kids on a country walk with the dog and a nice pub lunch. She was insistent that we only needed to go to cuz place and take sandwiches. I'm on holiday and I fancied a pub lunch (I was paying) - again 4-5 times of trying to grind me down.

Texting me 3-4 times before we came down to tell me what time I should leave to avoid traffic.

These are just off the top of my head but it's been constant and I'm exhausted. Am I being awful? I don't want to hurt her feelings but I'm not a child and I'm fed up feeling like every decision I make is in question. I happily go along with her plans for a quiet life when I see her (she Ioved a couple of hours away so not on my doorstep) - so if I AM being unreasonable, please please can I have some tips and advice as to how to cope with grace and deal with my frustration more effectively.
I feel really crap and mean about being short tempered with her and just want some ways of handling things better.
Sorry for long post. Didn't want to drip feed.

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Mittens1969 · 23/08/2017 17:54

@Spangles1963, I remember when I first owned my own place, a one-bedroom maisonette in Ruislip, which I really loved. I'd always said I'd get myself a cat as soon as I owned my own place. I did that immediately and my gorgeous black and white cat Dizzy came to live with me. When I told my DM, she said, 'I never thought you'd go through with it.' I think she meant that she couldn't believe I'd done all that without consulting her at all!

Now my DH and I have our own 4 bedroom detached house with our 2 DDs and no less than 4 furry friends. And no, I didn't consult my DM on any of that lol.

gingergenius · 25/08/2017 02:40

@Laiste is was crying with laughter at your menu sketch. It's exhausting isn't it?!

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BeALert · 25/08/2017 03:42

I'm nodding as I read, although in my case it's my MIL we struggle with, and we have the added complication of her treating us as if we know nothing while also having significant dementia.

Here's a typical conversation with my MIL.

Me: Let's go out for dinner. There's a food truck at the farmer's market.
MIL: Are you sure?
Me: Yes, it says here on their website.
MIL: Are you sure? I can't imagine they'd have food trucks at farmer's markets.
Me: Food trucks are huge here in the US. Just because they don't have them at farmer's markets where you live in the UK doesn't mean they don't have them here.
MIL (through pursed lips): Oh. Well. I doubt it'll be any good.
Me: Food trucks here do amazing food.
MIL: I doubt that very much.
Me: This one has won loads of awards.
MIL: Really? I doubt that. Food trucks do terrible food in England. Burgers and nasty stuff.

Later...

Me: Right everyone, let's head out.
MIL: Where are we going?
Me: To the farmer's market for dinner.
MIL: But they wouldn't have dinner there would they?
Me: There are food trucks there.
MIL: I'm sure there aren't. They wouldn't have food trucks at a farmer's market...
Me [weeps]

BeALert · 25/08/2017 03:46

But having said that, I do adore her. She's kind and generous, and I think a lot of her behaviour does stem from knowing her memory is going, and wanting to stay in control.

Remembering that helps me to be patient.

Laiste · 25/08/2017 09:51

Choccy - ... The very idea of drinking alcohol with a meal send her into paroxysms. I very rarely drink alcohol, but find myself ordering beer just to annoy her to assert my independence.

Yes! I'm the same! At the meal i was on about earlier i did just that. When the waitress asked for the drink order i thought 'glass of sparkling water' but heard myself say cheerfully ''a pint of cider please!''. (not even that keen on cider, certainly a whole pint of it) i saw DH look at me puzzled, then grinned and then ordered one for himself (he'll only drink if i am). DD1 (24) then said - Oh, i'll have a white wine then please!

All the while my DM was looking from one to the other of us as we ordered with an increasingly cats bum face Grin

It's wicked - but it felt good.

gingergenius · 25/08/2017 15:58

Gah! Completely lost my rag with DM this morning. Ffs I love her dearly but she will NOT take no for an answer.

Here is the scenario:

I have the bonnet of my car open to top up the radiator reservoir and washer fluid before setting off on our journey home. DM us pottering and generally dictating what everyone will eat, at what time, and in what order organising some food for the journey and giving the children ridiculously intricate instructions about who can what etc. Also telling me where everything should go in the car, what order the bags should go in and badgering the cottage owners to let the them know the dishwasher was still running (she did this 4 times. To 4 different people - each time the response was: "fine, no problem".

As if she hasn't got enough dictating organising to do, she then pops her head under the bonnet, sees the bottle of water in my hand and promptly shrieks at me that I can't possibly poor the water 'there' because that's the battery. I know this.
I have owned many cars. I have never yet poured water into the battery by mistake.
She the proceeds to tell me I'll damage the car and points out the reservoir for the washer fluid.

I remain calm, gently steer her away with a good humoured 'it's fine DM, I've got this, scoot off please' and she wriggles away to come back under the bonnet to try to take the bottle off me and do it herself. In isolation this is probably nothing but it's the CONSTANT assumption that everyone other than her is a dithering idiot and only she knows how to do anything.

It properly pissed me off. So I yelled (which I'm not proud of) that she needs to stop overowrenting/second-guessing/questioning and otherwise undermining me because I'M NOT A FUCKING TWO YEAR OLD AND IF I NEED HELP, I'LL ASK (I didn't swear btw).

I'm trying so hard to not get annoyed but isles been fucking CONSTANT this week. She has even acknowledged she does it because we had a calm chat about it two days ago. She's doing itvto the kids and my 15 y/o is getting stressed with it too.

I feel terrible but it was just RELENTLESS. Not to mention patronising and offensive. I'm home now and feel like I can finally relax.
I have sent an apology but suggested that as much as I need to work on my tolerance, she needs to learn to back off and stop trying to control everybody!

Anyway, just needed to get that off my chest - hence the update!

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gingergenius · 25/08/2017 16:01

@Laiste yes I find myself doing things deliberately because she's made it clear that's not her preferred option. Can't stand someone thinking they can decide for me. I realise I sound about 12!!!!

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Mammylamb · 25/08/2017 16:11

Oh this is a right mammy bashing thread on here today. To be fair, my mum drives me daft a lot too! She always says "it's 10 o'clock time for you to go to bed". I will point out that I'm an adult who can decide herself when to go to bed. Just think, soon enough it will be us annoying our kids

gingergenius · 25/08/2017 16:51

Don't think anyone has bashed anyone else. This has been a thread to let off steam because IRL, in spite of telling DM that I'm a competent adult, often several times, the hint is not taken. Think it's clear from that he general tone of the thread that we all love our DMs dearly but sometimes their need for passive aggressive control is a little draining. And if I turn into that I've already told my kids to tell me to give my head a wobble. Hmm

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Mittens1969 · 25/08/2017 17:33

Passive aggressive really does describe my DM with her 'suggestions' and 'problem solving'. She always has to say, 'You know you don't have to do this but ...' Yes, mum, I know I don't', I think, and then I deliberately forget what she said.

I just wish she would accept that I'm not looking for her to problem solve, or offer suggestions, I just want to talk to her! I can find the answers myself mostly!!!

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