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To think she's being off with me? Should I say something?

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wellcallhimshaunshallwe · 17/08/2017 10:02

Abyear ago I met a woman my age at a toddler group, who's DD was around the same age as DS. Although I have lots of lovely friends, none of them currently have children so having a 'mum friend' is something that appealed to me.
We clicked straight away, she seemed very 'normal' and down to earth, we had lots in common and swapped numbers etc.
For a while I'd say the correspondence between us was very equal, she would invite me out with the kids, even sometimes to things with her other friends who had kids, and I'd initiate play dates also. All good. I felt we became quite close and we arranged a night out the two of us, which we went on and had a really good night. Both got quite drunk and said how nice it was to meet a friend the same age who had a child the same age and who was so nice. We said that night we would arrange a night out with our DH's also. The day after we set a date for that night and that was that.
I then felt like she stopped speaking to me, and would take days to reply if I ever I messaged her and then the replied were only very brief. I didn't think much of it and assumed she was busy etc.
The night out with DHs came round and we went out, it had been organised by myself and I had to ask her if she was still up for it a few days earlier as I hadn't heard anything from her for weeks. But anyway, we all had a great night (I thought so anyway) and DH's got on well. We had a meal and chatted throughout, had laugh and all generally all got quite merry. Eventually DH and I left and they said they wouldn't be much behind us and all said bye etc. All seemed well.
After texting her the next day to say what a good night we'd had etc and thank her I didn't get a reply for 3 days. And then when I did again it was brief. She's not asked me to do anything with the kids for months now and I've started to wonder if I've done something to offend her (although for the life of me I can not think what this could be). A few times over the last few months I have tried to make a plan with her and the kids and she has said she can't make it as already has plans. Fair enough I've though in the past.

I told her a few weeks ago I was taking DS to a playgroup thing and she was welcome to join and she initially said she couldn't make it. But when we were on our way I received a text to say they'd meet us there which they did. She seemed off soon as I got there as if something had pissed her off, I asked if she was okay and she said she was. Tbf we didn't get much of a chance to even talk about anything other than kids as we were both chasing toddlers round. All seemed well by the end of the day and we left with her saying she'd text me after to make another plan with DHs. I've not heard from her since.

I realise this may sound a bit 'high school' and it's not the sort of thing I would ever really talk about- I don't have any of this with my own friends. I do suffer with anxiety so things like this do tend to play on my mind- 'have I pissed her off in some way?' etc but I really don't think I'm imagining this anymore. It's all gone very one way and I'm clueless as to why. I've told myself I won't be in touch with her at all now and will just see if she is with me (I was only contacting her once every few weeks anyway FYI). As I say having a mum friend who I got on with so well was valuable to me.

So, should I just leave it and see what happens, potentially allowing the he friendship to dissolve? Or should I ask if I've done something to offend her? I really can't be bothered with mixed message people as I'd rather know where I stand with someone. I'm not sure if should be 'taking the hint' here!

OP posts:
Neutrogena · 17/08/2017 11:09

OP - what treatment are you receiving for your anxiety?

Dottie39 · 17/08/2017 11:11

I am in a similar position, I had a close and quite intense friendship which lasted a couple of years and then she just changed and became totally flaky - took days to reply, late when we did meet up, never keen to arrange anything. I have driven myself mad over analysing what I could have done wrong but I honestly can't think of anything. She is a fellow school mum and will blank me one day and be chatty the next.
I have decided to give up. I will always be civil but I'm too old for all this and the overriding feelings this friendship has left me with is self doubt and sadness.

Dina1234 · 17/08/2017 11:17

She's probably just very busy, maybe she has something else going on. I've done this a couple of times-I felt terrible but I just kept forgetting.

ImperialBlether · 17/08/2017 11:19

Neutrogena, the OP doesn't need any treatment for anxiety! What a mean thing to say to her.

LambChopsMcGee · 17/08/2017 11:23

Has she been different since that first night out would you say or since the night with your DHs?
Just wondering if many she felt she went over the top with the gushy talk/texts about how great you guys were together and is a little embarrassed or trying to rebalance things? Just thinking of myself cos I know I can go over the top with "I love you guyssss!" texts when I've had a few. Maybe she is afraid you think of her as a BFF when she wasn't after something quite so close?
It's still weird but I am just trying to figure it out.

It's hard eh. With romantic relationships you can ask openly (or, if you suddenly aren't keen, you can break up with them!)

wellcallhimshaunshallwe · 17/08/2017 11:23

Thanks, some great advice there. I won't ask if I've done anything, but maybe will wait a week or two and ask to see how she is. I'm not going to intiate a meet up I'll just see if she does. It is a shame because she's a really lovely girl otherwise!

Neutrogena I have allow dosage medication for whenever I'm panicky and I'm in the middle of a CBT course. Although I'm really not sure what that has to do with anything? Confused

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dustarr73 · 17/08/2017 11:24

I bet it cooled right around the time you couldnt do her childcare favours.There it is right there.

Doobigetta · 17/08/2017 11:27

As Lambchop said, it all sounds a bit emotionally intense with the discussion of how great it was that you'd found each other, etc- almost more like a romantic relationship than a friendship. Maybe she started to feel it was a bit full-on, felt uncomfortable and so has backed off?

Birdshitbridgegotme · 17/08/2017 11:37

I would just ask her. Say u feel she has seemed a little distant lately and hsve u dobe anything to offend her. Either she tells u or she dont. Then go from there. Let her make the effort after that,balls in her court

tessiebear4 · 17/08/2017 12:14

I agree with LambChops. It sounds a bit full-on, and genuinely close friendships take time to evolve and grow. Maybe she feels a bit crowded. I've been there myself - I'm a natural introvert and I also take time to get to know people, so new mum friends doing the whole "I'm so glad I've found you" thing really puts me off.

wellcallhimshaunshallwe · 17/08/2017 12:19

Apart from the night out we had the two of us where we were really drunk and said something along the lines of "it's so nice to meet someone my age who has a kid the same age, and we get on so well anyway" there's been nothing full on about it at all. And that was very much a drunken conversation that we've both since laughed about. The texts afterwards maybe were a bit 'gushy'but definitely nothing romantic, just drunken rubbish on both our parts that we even laughed about on night out with DH's too.

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FindoGask · 17/08/2017 12:27

"OP - what treatment are you receiving for your anxiety?"

Neutrogena - what treatment are you receiving for being an arsehole?

GlitterGlassEye · 17/08/2017 12:31

You sound like a really lovely person op. Agree with others that she might have some personal problems that have made her a bit distant. When I've had periods of my life being absolutely shit, I do retreat into my shell for a bit and can't bothered with anyone outside my immediate family. It's not them, it is definitely me and I just want to crawl through my black cloud alone til it passes. In the past I've lost friendships due to this and I feel awful and selfish on reflection but at the time I felt like bad company therefore doing them a favour Confused.

PovertyJetset · 17/08/2017 14:37

neitrogena that was a little left field! I don't think the op is obsessing about this or it's anxiety driven. A friend has unexpectedly and somewhat out of character has gone quiet.

It's odd.

The only thing I can think is that something big has happened in her life which has changed her focus- unwell parent, bad news, redundancy or something like that.

99% it's not you.

junebirthdaygirl · 17/08/2017 14:46

Would she have been insecure around her dh thinking you were flirting with him? Would she have recognised your dh from another place and not be comfortable?
Op did say she suffers from anxiety so not brought up out of the blue

Fluffypinkpyjamas · 17/08/2017 14:51

If it all stemmed from the night you both got drunk, could something have happened, been said, that you either don't recall or didn't think mattered at the time?

Therealslimshady1 · 17/08/2017 14:57

I have been friendly with other mums, where I saw us as "colleagues", and we'd meet up with kids and have a coffee whilst they played.

Sometimes this then got to "let's meet up with the DHs" which panics me as DH is not keen, he only socialises with his (few) really good friends and only when in the mood). I usually wiggle out of these arrangements.

A few times, with a new "mum friend" she took it to the next level too quickly (let's all have dinner together! Let's go away for a weekend together!") Which meant I'd cool off the whole thing.

Not because I did not like them, but because with mum friends/mum colleagues I prefer to keep to the playdates&coffee concept....maybe a girls night in the pub some time.

Dh and I just don't socialise much as a couple, your friend may be the same. She is cooling things off a bit. You probably have not offended her.

Therealslimshady1 · 17/08/2017 14:59

Catastrophe (the series) has a really good (but painful) episode about this kind of thing. Anyone see it?

cedoren · 17/08/2017 15:20

Therealslimshady1 - that's an excellent way of putting it, like colleagues. I feel exactly the same way. If it does evolve into a genuine friendship, then all well and good, but that takes time and is quite unusual I think.

Happydoingitjusttheonce · 17/08/2017 15:41

Your friend sounds a bit like me. I have a fairly wide social circle but forced myself to make friends with other kids mums for the sake of my kid. I found over time I didn't have anything in common other than being a mum, and I not a mum who enjoys talking to other mums about our kids. I didn't have enough time for long term friends let alone new ones. I know I let the friendships slide. You have done nothing wrong

Neutrogena · 17/08/2017 15:42

Eh?
OP said she suffered from anxiety. I was just unpacking that a little by asking another question.
She also said I told myself it was my anxiety playing tricks on me again.

I could say I sometimes feel bullied on here, everyone ganging up, but I won't because it's not about me.

Sometimes people go off others for some irrational reason. There is nowt as queer as folk.

wellcallhimshaunshallwe · 17/08/2017 16:13

I completely agree about the colleague thing, I have colleagues who are friends (some of whom actually do have kids) but were mainly just mates in work and I wouldn't think anything of it if they didn't make any plans with me!
However this was different. I'm 100% certain that it wasn't me getting the wrong end of the stick! If I remember rightly it was her idea to have a night out with DHs, ( I organised it as in I booked the table) and she had even mentioned us all going round to hers for BBQs and even holidays etc. She has referred to me as 'Auntie X' when talking to her DD several times (and did the last time I saw her actually Confused- I don't say this with her and DS) I'm not usually one to make friends really quickly and become BFF's as a PP suggested, all my closest friends I've been friends with for a very long time.

But yer maybe there are other things going on, maybe something did happen when we out that she took offence to but didn't say anything about. Balls in her court now anyway.

glitterglasseye thank you that's nice to hear I've come across that way and not like a crazy person! Smile

I mentioned my anxiety because it means I'm a prolific worrier and often can read into things too much in my own head, imagining issues that aren't actually there. For want of a better word I can can a bit paranoid. So often I have to check with others that it's not just me!

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LambChopsMcGee · 17/08/2017 17:17

Just to clarify, I wasn't saying you had come on too strong or that it was anything you did. I'm also quiet quiet and slow to get close to people but sometimes I can be too open about things when I've been drinking.

I also suffer from anxiety and this sort of thing would drive me to distraction. One thing I would also say about that is from looking on MN it seems to happen all the time for no apparent reason!

You do sound really nice OP and considerate (and fun). I hope things become clearer one way or the other.

wellcallhimshaunshallwe · 17/08/2017 19:51

Thanks lampchops I appreciate that! Yer I can definitely be one to tell my life story if I've had a few, but she's the same and I think that's why we clicked tbh!
As I say I do have a great set of mates already and always count myself lucky to have such a great bunch.
Ah well we will see I guess! Feel a bit better now I have some perspective on it from here!

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KellyMarieTunstall2 · 17/08/2017 22:26

Hi OP
I'm sorry you are going through this. Maybe she has made a few new friends and is no longer as interested or as reliant on your friendship. This has happened to me, I was friends with a woman from the birth of our babies, neither of us had any mum friends. We saw each other regularly, messaged and called. Then she made some new friends, she was busier, her social life became hectic and now I rarely see or hear from her. It's sad but I accept it. You sound nice, I'm sure you'll make some new friends.