To think it's cheeky to apply for an Irish passport because of brexit?

[MyheartbelongstoG]

Just that really.

Lots of people all around the world, particularly UK, USA, Canada, Aus, NZ are eligible for Irish passports through parents/grandparents.

As you have probably figured out, that is the result of the diaspora of Irish all around the World. They and their descendents are still valued by the Irish State. I think that is very good.

Yes, that is so hypocritical of him. He not only voted for it but campaigned for it, knowing he could get his own children passports from another EU state, what about the people who bought in to his campaign who have no other nationality!

@Quetzalcoatl777

That is brilliant for you!

I wish I could claim an EU citizenship and passport.

Why are brexits thinking its cheeky that people who voted remain want to keep the benifets of the EU? do they want us to drown with them with the ship wheck it is becoming

worridmum,

It's probably the Brexits that are applying in their droves, just like the Loyalist in the NI, and Farage in Germany etc.

You could not make it up.

It's more hypocritical than cheeky to have voted Leave and avail of an EU passport when Brexit happens.

It's probably the Brexits that are applying in their droves, just like the Loyalist in the NI, and Farage in Germany etc.

I'll give you Farage (and you are welcome to him!) but please provide the evidence that it's mostly Brexiteers who are applying for another citizenship or that in NI it's mostly Loyalists. Evidence, not prejudice.

Orangemen are applying for passports are they? omg, that's hilarious! Nobody in possession of an Irish passport should be allowed march.

Andrewfogg now I want to take back my post as there's no evidence that it's specifically orange men applying for passports. There is a difference (a vast one!) between protestant in NI and Orangeman.

The Americans and now the British, all claiming their Irish heritage, 1/8 Irish

Andrewofogg Google Ian Paisley Jr and Irish passport. (I don't know how to do links). He of course is a member of the DUP who funded pro Brexit materials here in N Ireland and in England.

Anyone who voted brexit or didn't vote and is then swanning off like this is a total bastard. Otherwise, why not do your best to escape the total fucking disaster heading our way?

My Irish mother lived in England for over 60 years, married an English Man and had her 3 kids here. Throughout those years she constantly ran down the UK and tried to bring us up to hate where we're from although she would never have dreamed of going back there to live. She was allowed full voting rights here and heavily used all the public services while never working. The Irish always had more rights here, regardless of and before the EU. So if it's cheeky for me to get an Irish passport, you know where I learned it from.

Cheeky or not, if I could I would!

Andrewofgg

It is called being savvy and having half a brain, you know.... hedging your bets.

But if Brexits don't have half a brain to do this if eligible, not my fault.

Ian Paisley Jr urged NI people to apply. And he is a Loyalist. He didn't say Loyalists should not, but gave the nod anyway.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/unionist-ian-paisley-jr-mp-constituents-apply-republic-of-ireland-eire-passports-a7102761.html

But don't you become an Irish citizen automatically when you are born? That's how it works in most other countries. You don't become a citizen when you apply for your passport, iyswim

You do if you are born in Irish to Irish parents. Otherwise, no.

How far do you need to go. I have Irish great grand parents on both mum and dad's sides of the family.

@Dowser

If you would like to read back to a post from MyheartbelongstoG (hope I got that right).

It explains everything.

Great grand parents; not eligable.

dowser

1. If you are born in Ireland = you are automatically an Irish citizen
2. If a parent was born in Ireland = you are automatically an Irish citizen
3. If a grandparent was born in Ireland = you can claim Irish citizenship by registering on the foreign births register

If you are in the third category, and you claim your Irish citizenship before your children are born, then they can also claim citizenship - and so on down the line.

However if you are in the third category and don't claim your Irish citizenship before your children are born, then they can't claim citizenship.

Yes it's a bit cheeky. But I don't blame folk if they think it would benefit them. It is getting a bit all for yourself these days so more folk are jumping on the bandwagon.

gelnames That's no evidence that NI Loyalists are doing it in numbers out of proportion. And you have no evidence at all that people in GB who are applying for Irish or other EU citizenship are disproportionately Brexit voters.

As a unionist, I'm not particularly in favour of ROI essentially treating northern Ireland as part of their territory by granting people born in NI ROI passports. I also think that to be able to claim citizenship through grandparents is incredibly lax - most other countries limit it to parents and then in many cases it isn't automatic.

However, on an individual level if you're eligible to apply for an Irish passport (due to their extremely lax laws) and maintain EU citizenship post brexit then I absolutely understand why people would do this. (I do think it's a bit rich for brexiteers like Iain paisley jnr to do it!) I also understand why people might think it's a bit cheeky - we were fortunate to secure a second EU passport for dd (Not irish). We have no real links to the country, speak the language very badly and don't plan to live there. But under their laws they considered dd a citizen of their country since the moment she was born, passport or no passport.

I also think that to be able to claim citizenship through grandparents is incredibly lax

Their business, not ours.