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To think it's cheeky to apply for an Irish passport because of brexit?

817 replies

MyheartbelongstoG · 11/08/2017 16:10

Just that really.

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SongforSal · 11/08/2017 17:06

Just to chime in again. My siblings travel a lot. As terrible as this will sound, they cite that with their jobs, if ever they were in a precarious situation such as being in a country with political discord that does not favour UK citizens at the time, they would rather have their Irish passports for immunity/right of passage ect. Yep. I know that sounds bonkers, but it's the times we are living in.

squoosh · 11/08/2017 17:06

public support for Brexit is growing so get used to it.

Thanks. I needed a laugh! Grin Grin

Stripyhoglets · 11/08/2017 17:06

I'm getting mine to retain my EU rights as an EU citizen. This stupid government may have acted in a way which is allowing them to be stripped away from me as a British citizen. I didn't have to before but me and my children will be applying now.

grannytomine · 11/08/2017 17:07

Leave voters applying for an Irish passport (I’ve met one!) though are an entirely different matter. The cheek of them thinking they should be able to retain EU perks whilst doing their bit to remove the same from their fellow citizens. Bad cess to them It never occurred to me that they would do that. You are right, that is a cheek.

Spiderbaby13 · 11/08/2017 17:23

I know of someone that voted for Brexit AND then applied for an Irish passport to retain EU privileges... total hypocrite!!!!

MyheartbelongstoG · 11/08/2017 17:29

They won't be the only one spider that's for sure!

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MaudGonneMad · 11/08/2017 17:30

The thought has crossed my mind, OP, but I know I'm being unreasonable so I don't allow myself to entertain it.

Tangential question: will all these British people acquiring Irish citizenship complicate the proposed referendum for emigrants' voting rights?

gelnames · 11/08/2017 17:30

I think Ireland is very generous in their rules for Irish passports. Plenty of people are eligible even though they might not think so.

The amount of money the Foreign Departments gets from this is derisory. Just to mention.

The Loyalists in the North are applying in their droves. Anecdotally of course, but it makes perfect sense for them even if it smacks of hypocrisy.

Anyone who is eligible should apply and get an Irish passport asap.

Who knows what will happen in 2019. Best have dual citizenship and make the best of it. Well done Ireland.

sororitynoise · 11/08/2017 17:34

I think it's 'cheeky' not to mind your business.

You sound quite jealous.

gelnames · 11/08/2017 17:44

Britain has been very good to Irish immigrants and for the most part they worked hard and made a good life for themselves.

They and their descendants are right to apply for Irish citizenship now of all times. And I bet many would love to be in a position to get an EU passport like this.

Smurfy23 · 11/08/2017 17:45

Not really. I have one (was born there) and probably wouldn't have bothered getting one for dd but as terms of travel haven't been negotiated would want us to be travelling under same nationality in case they are different post Brexit msg will be getting her and Irish one for when she's with me and British for when she's with DH

Sunshineandeggshells · 11/08/2017 17:47

My birth mother and her family are Irish. I was born in England and adopted. Can I apply?

GherkinSnatch · 11/08/2017 17:49

Not cheeky at all. I wish I could apply for an Irish passport.

Effendi · 11/08/2017 17:52

My husband applied for and received his Irish passport recently. His Mum is Irish, married to a Brit, moved to UK 50+ years ago.

We live abroad in another EU country and voted remain.
Come Brexit we may be considered third country nationals. Now he keeps his EU citizen status and his right to live and work here, as will I as his spouse.

Overrunwithlego · 11/08/2017 17:52

I'll be applying for Irish citizenship through Irish grandparents. Had I had a crystal ball I would have got myself into the foreign births register before the children were born so they could also claim citizenship. Alas, not to be, but if I have the right to live and work freely in Ireland then it's an option if we need it - and they can claim citizenship after 3 years residency I believe.

I'm kinda taken aback by some of the comments in here - "so what are the benefits?" British citizens are about to have the mass removal of freedom of movement rights - rights that many will have held from birth. I can't think of another peacetime situation where we have been stripped of our rights in such a way. And still it seems quite a lot of people don't understand that.

As for leave voters now claiming passports from EU countries - yes, that is cheeky. But isn't that what Farage has done? And of course Gisela Stewart's children will have German citizenship. And Johnson has dual American citizenship. It makes my blood boil to think of the lies they told to strip my children of the rights that their children can still claim.

KakunaRattata · 11/08/2017 17:54

If it wasn't for the cost of registering I would have done it years ago, however there's 3 if us to pay for as only dh is first generation born in England, the rest of us are through grandparents.

Doobigetta · 11/08/2017 17:57

I'd agree with you, if the person in question had voted Leave. I doubt many of us did, though, so why the fuck shouldn't we exercise our birthright? I have heard some especially bitter Brexiteers say they'd like to strip us of our dual citizenship and boot us over the Irish sea. If the one thing my dual nationality and double passport fees achieved would be to piss that sort off a bit, it'd be worth it. As it is, I really value my freedom of movement, thanks.

gelnames · 11/08/2017 17:58

Kakuna,

I don't think there is any timeframe on it, so why not just apply person by person as you get the money together for it. I would.

If it is possible to register individually bit by bit that is! Sorry if I misinterpreted the rules.

Moose23IsHungry · 11/08/2017 18:01

I have a relative who voted for brexit and is now hastily applying for an Irish passport Hmm

JigglyTuff · 11/08/2017 18:03

Because the stupid little Englandets who voted for Brexit have fucked us all over.

BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 11/08/2017 18:06

That was incredibly helpful MyHeart, I didn't think that my DC could automatically be Irish citizens so I was planning to wait until we'd lived here for long enough for them to be naturalised. But according to that it doesn't matter that neither DH nor I were born in Ireland, because we are both Irish all we need to do is get them on the register of international adoptions and we can apply for Irish passports for them. I was planning to get a British passport (I'm entitled to one) so that I would be going through non-EU channel with them after Brexit, but it would be much more convenient for the whole family have the same (Euro) nationality.

To answer your original question, I don't think it's ever cheeky to apply for a passport or citizenship to which you are entitled. What reasoning were the people who thought it was cheeky using? Did they think that it was unpatriotic to have an additional citizenship, or did they just think it was somehow 'unfair' because not everyone in the UK can do it.

ArcheryAnnie · 11/08/2017 18:07

I'm fine with anyone who is eligible applying for Irish passports if they want to. (We're not eligible.)

What really, seriously has pissed me off are the reports that Nigel Fucking Farage has got his kids German passports in order to maintain freedom of movement for them, while being totally happy for the rest of us to be fucked. Fucking hypocrite.

Flatpackback · 11/08/2017 18:09

It's not in the least bit cheeky. If you are eligible then it makes sense to do so. Both my DC have done so, as much for their future children as for themselves. The Government isn't even sure what Brexit will mean in practice so it's best to hedge your bets if you can.

Tomorrowillbeachicken · 11/08/2017 18:10

I'm doing it for myself and my son (grandfather was Irish) and can't see why it is cheeky.

Quetzalcoatl777 · 11/08/2017 18:10

@Sunshineandeggshells

I asked the Irish Department for Foreign Affairs this question.

The answer is that citizenship is an inalienable right so if you were an Irish citizen at birth - which you were if your birth mother was born in Ireland- you are still an Irish citizen.

You need the paper trail - your BM birth certificate, your own original birth certificate and your certificate of adoption. Passport will be issued in your current name with an observation saying formally known as "sunshine bm surname"

I was so happy to learn this as it meant there was one element of my original identity that I had not lost.

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