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To think it's cheeky to apply for an Irish passport because of brexit?

817 replies

MyheartbelongstoG · 11/08/2017 16:10

Just that really.

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Peregrina · 07/06/2018 07:32

I think it's totally hypocritical if you voted Leave because you wanted out of the EU, and are now busting a gut to make sure you are an EU citizen. Nigel Lawson can also add his name to the list of hypocrites - applying for French residence instead of selling up and coming back to get stuck in to making the Leave work.

SaltySeaBird · 07/06/2018 07:38

Three of my great grandparents were Irish. Unfortunately I can’t claim as my grandparents and parents weren’t Irish citizens. I have a very Irish name and strong connections, one grandparent did retire to Ireland. But I am stuck with my U.K. passport.

GhostofFrankGrimes · 07/06/2018 07:40

I do think it’s mostly to keep our Yankee cousins happy but honestly, if you’ve never set foot in Ireland, have no plans to and your grandparent on one side was Irish why bother?

TBH, unless you are Irish I think you should keep your nose out of another countries citizenship rules. Irish citizenship is the way it is because of the diaspora. A diaspora that stretches back centuries due to British interference in Ireland. An interference that has raised its ugly head again thanks to Brexit.

Tit4TatandAllThat · 07/06/2018 07:41

Dh, dd1 and dd2 are Irish, wish I could get citizenship. I took the useless British citizenship 2 years ago, I now wish I hadn't bothered.

But we will soon be watching from afar as the shit storm rolls in.

Tit4TatandAllThat · 07/06/2018 07:43

And yes I know it's an old thread but worth commenting on still.

Grasscourtseason · 07/06/2018 07:46

Really, really cheeky if you voted Brexit and are now going to leave Remain Brits in the shit with your bloody legacy. Gee thanks btw. (I know people who boasted about this. I wanted to punch them on the nose and I’m not even violent)

Otherwise, if you voted Remain I don’t blame you.

Missingstreetlife · 07/06/2018 07:47

Some ppl seem a bit confused between passport and citizenship.
Not automatically an Irish citizen if born in England. If parent or gp is Irish, or born there (even north and British) would be entitled. First register Irish citizen of foreign birth, then can apply for passport. Read down the list on website above until you come to your situation. Only children or grandchildren of those who are Irish are entitled, so good to apply if you can and keep options open for your descendants, if two generations don't claim entitlement is lost.
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Missingstreetlife · 07/06/2018 07:50

Sorry
N.I. Is part of Britain, and Ireland.

TaytoAllDay · 07/06/2018 07:55

I actually want to apply for a British passport, because of Brexit, think it would make my life easier for when I move there in the future. Was born in the U.K so I don't think it's cheeky it's sensible to apply :)

GhostofFrankGrimes · 07/06/2018 07:56

UK and Ireland are part of the common travel area. You can move and reside freely between the two countries.

cortex10 · 07/06/2018 07:57

Sunshine** yes you can apply
My birth mother is Irish and I applied for my passport last year. You need all of the paperwork - your original birth certificate, adoption order, post adoption birth certificate plus mother's birth certificate. I'm now in contact with my birth mother (reunited after 54 years) which probably made it easier.

Peregrina · 07/06/2018 08:02

DH's long deceased Irish grandmother was born in the UK, at the time when it was the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. I imagine that once the Republic came into being she could have applied to be an Irish citizen, but I imagine she saw no point, not travelling anywhere more than 10 miles from her home. So that door is closed to him.

cortex10 · 07/06/2018 08:03

@Sunshineandeggshells

SmiledWithTheRisingSun · 07/06/2018 08:12

If you had an Irish grandparent and apply for the passport - does that mean your kids / spouse also qualify?

(Haven't tread while thread so apologies if this is repetitive!)

ScreenQueen · 07/06/2018 08:15

I've deliberately not RTFT in case it annoys me Grin. But basically, I'd encourage anyone to secure maintenance of their current rights and those of their offspring through obtaining an EU passport via whatever means is available to them. This government (and I include JCs support of that) removing opportunities for its citizens is a disgrace with no upside to 99.5% of the population and a significant downside. There's no shame whatsoever in bypassing that, however much sympathy I feel for those unable to do so except Leave voters

DeepFatFriar · 07/06/2018 08:31

I have a mate who voted leave and is getting an irish passport despite literally never having stepped foot there and yes i think its a fucking disgrace.

Efferlunt · 07/06/2018 09:25

Well Irish citizenship is the way it is because, so many Irish people were forced to leave for economic reasons. So in one way not cheeky at all.

However if you voted leave and your only reason for applying is Brexit then shame on you for leaving us all in this terrible situation.

Efferlunt · 07/06/2018 09:26

See also Lawson and farage, who are scum basically.

Helmetbymidnight · 07/06/2018 09:28

I have a mate who voted leave and is getting an irish passport despite literally never having stepped foot there and yes i think its a fucking disgrace

Gah how can you stand them?

DrRanjsLeftEyebrow · 07/06/2018 09:30

First of all, for avoidance of any doubt, I voted Remain! (and yes, I do think it's beyond hypocritical for those who voted Brexit / NI loyalists to be applying for Irish citizenship!).

All my great-grandparents were Irish, my paternal grandparents may have been born in Ireland but I'm unsure as both died not long after my dad was born. My maternal grandfather is the only one I am 100% sure was born in Ireland. But hang on, if this was pre Irish independence, and he came to the UK before then, can I still claim via him??

I do feel a tiny bit cheeky claiming it, in as much as I am only doing it cos of Brexit. I don't consider myself "Irish", but I do consider myself "of Irish descent". And I 100% consider myself European, so it would be stupid of me not to grasp the one straw I have of retaining my EU rights (and hopefully give my children some chance in the future). I am beyond angry at their rights being taken off them because of stupid Tory infighting!

I'm Scottish and my last hope was another Indyref, but I'm beginning to fear that people here are not going to jump on that lifeboat, hence me looking into this.

Iruka · 07/06/2018 09:34

My grandparents were born pre-independence, I still qualified.

Helmetbymidnight · 07/06/2018 09:34

The cheeky thing is when leave voters take our rights away and then get all confused when we don’t like it.

It’s a fecking disaster. Right pissed off with the state of the country today.

FlyingElbows · 07/06/2018 09:38

Mr Elbows family are Irish and we'd apply for him and our children (not sure if I'd qualify) in a heartbeat if he, and other colleagues, hadn't be warned they'd lose their jobs if they do! His job requires MOD security clearance and apparently they're not wildly keen on the idea. I think it's still the 1970s in someone's head!

Iruka · 07/06/2018 10:01

And to everyone concerned about being the only non-EU member of a family, you would be covered as an EU family member and allowed to travel and live with your family within the EU. EEA family permits are the UK official documentation although it is not technically needed, all you need to do is prove your relationship.

LoveInTokyo · 07/06/2018 10:13

I think it is appallingly cheeky if you voted leave. Bit cheeky if you couldn’t be arsed to vote. Fine if you voted remain or had a good reason why you couldn’t vote.