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To think it's cheeky to apply for an Irish passport because of brexit?

817 replies

MyheartbelongstoG · 11/08/2017 16:10

Just that really.

OP posts:
Coconutspongexo · 14/08/2017 10:28

I'm not understanding why it's only cheeky to apply for Irish passport, I think anyone who is entitled to a passport from elsewhere in the EU should use that right.

I've had my Polish passport since I was 4 btw not because of Brexit.

Andrewofgg · 14/08/2017 17:15

Norway and Sweden are in a common travel area and Norway is not in the EU. They manage it.

RandomlyGenerated · 14/08/2017 17:46

There are still customs checks (especially for commercial traffic) between Norway and Sweden though, and although ANPR etc has helped speed things up there can still be delays crossing from one to country to another. Norway and Sweden also have to work closely together to make it work - both are in the Schengen area and Norway is in the EEA so it is not treated as a third country. Brexiteers are saying no EEA membership for the UK though so an NI - Eire border wouldn't be as straightforward.

notevernotnevernotnohow · 14/08/2017 17:58

NI-Ireland border, please.

Why should they be denied their rights because of who their father is? He is in the public eye but his children are not

He was happy to deny millions of other people those rights against their will, why should his children be any different.

RandomlyGenerated · 14/08/2017 18:02

Our passports say Eire as well as Ireland Smile

Lolabridges · 14/08/2017 18:07

Norway is in the EEA and has a free movement agreement even though not a member of the EU, similar to Switzerland.

The UK will NOT have free movement post Brexit. So how will NI/ROI figure that one out? Get with the program and educate yourself. Thanks.

notevernotnevernotnohow · 14/08/2017 18:10

Our passports say Eire as well as Ireland smile

Yes. It's in Irish as well as English but it's not used when you are speaking English.

RandomlyGenerated · 14/08/2017 18:56

Fair enough - I should have put Ireland not Eire.

BroomstickOfLove · 14/08/2017 19:03

Republic of Ireland, really, as NI is also Ireland.

kittytom · 14/08/2017 19:07

It isn't cheeky to do something you are legally entitled to do! I would if I could.

notevernotnevernotnohow · 14/08/2017 20:56

Republic of Ireland, really, as NI is also Ireland

No, it isn't. Not in this context.

Andrewofgg · 14/08/2017 21:00

NI is part of the island called Ireland but not part of the country called Ireland. It's part of the country called the United Kingdom.

Malters87 · 14/08/2017 21:03

My mum is Irish as is my partner so we have got DS an Irish passport and I will probably apply for one. I don't think you're being unreasonable because it does kind of feel cheeky even though, as pps have said, it's not!!

BroomstickOfLove · 14/08/2017 21:12

In this context, it's actually pretty politically dodgy to talk about a NI/Ireland border when many, many people in NI have Irish passports, identify as British and consider the division of the island of Ireland to be wrong. Saying ROI acknowledge the political division without denying g the Irishness of NI.

Andrewofgg · 14/08/2017 21:15

Broomstick Did you mean identify as Irish by any chance?

notevernotnevernotnohow · 14/08/2017 21:16

No it isn't. There is an NI-Ireland border, no one has a problem with talking about it. We talk about it all the time, there are many cross border agreements and the language used is NI-Ireland border.
It is no way controversial.

Lolabridges · 14/08/2017 21:45

Yes, NI is part of the "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland"

It is part of the island of Ireland, but is not ROI, well you know that.

That border issue without free movement will sink things. Unless someone comes up with a creative solution.

I feel for ROI, none of this is of their making. They are the only country that will have a land border with a potential non EU country. No wonder they are miffed.

And the irony is that the DUP want an open border. Who'd a thunk it.

notevernotnevernotnohow · 14/08/2017 21:51

The name of the country is not ROI. It is simply Ireland.

Lolabridges · 14/08/2017 21:59

I know it is called Ireland. But many say ROI (Republic of Ireland) just because it is easy to distinguish it from NI.

No insults intended. Perish the thought.

Lolabridges · 14/08/2017 22:00

ROI is better than the dreaded "Eire" isn't it.

bananafish81 · 14/08/2017 22:57

For the poster looking to get a German passport - Germany only allows dual nationality with another EU country, so having a UK and a German passport ain't gonna work after Brexit.

Not true in all circumstances

I've just got my German citizenship and am now a dual German / British national. I'm a naturalised German citizen due to the provision under the German constitution called the Basic Law

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/30/uk-descendants-of-jewish-refugees-seek-german-citizenship-after-brexit-votee_


My grandfather was stripped of his German citizenship by the Nazis, therefore I was eligible to apply for naturalisation - the rationale being if my grandfather had still been German, my father would have been German, therefore I would have been German. Any child of mine would be German as well, according to the woman at the German embassy when we went to collect our naturalisation certificates. I'm now eligible to apply for a German passport and am permitted to retain my British passport

abilockhart · 14/08/2017 23:35

I feel for ROI, none of this is of their making. They are the only country that will have a land border with a potential non EU country. No wonder they are miffed.

Ireland itself could possibly do very well out of Brexit.

Many city banks, insurance companies and other organisations have already made deals to move from the UK to Ireland. Many more will follow suit.
uk.businessinsider.com/12-city-banks-relocating-to-dublin-after-brexit-2017-6

The same will apply to other sectors of the economy. Research and high tech would be particularly vulnerable here.

Ireland has also gone after the European Medicines Agency. If the EMA leave the UK and move to Ireland, many Pharma companies in the UK will do likewise:

I'm not sure if it will pull this one off, but if it does, it would be a major boon.

Northern Ireland, on the other hand, will be in a very precarious position. Its economy could be decimated.

Andrewofgg · 14/08/2017 23:35

The French still offer citizenship to anyone who can establish descent from one of the Protestants stripped of it by the revocation of the Edict of Nanres in 1685. I don't know how many applicants they get!

Golondrina · 14/08/2017 23:41

Spain and Portugal do for Jewish descendants of Jews expelled from those countries i think.

OkPedro · 14/08/2017 23:53

Anyone in NI who says they are British don't have an issue with NI and the republic being separate Blush