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Are the Martens guilty of killing Jason Corbett?

55 replies

EmeraldIsle100 · 08/08/2017 22:11

Apologies if there is already a thread on this issue. I can't tell if they are guilty or not. What do MNs think?

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EmeraldIsle100 · 08/08/2017 22:27

I just realised that it might be prejudicious to discuss this on social media so please ignore if that is the case!

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EmeraldIsle100 · 09/08/2017 18:08

They were both found guilty. I hope the kids are coping ok.

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MumIsRunningAMarathon · 09/08/2017 18:41

Just briefly read about this, had never heard of it til now

Odd all round

Nocabbageinmyeye · 09/08/2017 18:48

Guilty as sin and I am absolutely delighted they have been found guilty, 20-25 years and I hope it drags for them!

MumIsRunningAMarathon · 09/08/2017 19:04

What was their motive?

December11 · 09/08/2017 19:13

I feel justice has been served.

The prosecution claimed the motive was he intended to move back to Ireland with his two children without her, she wanted to adopt them and he didn't sign the papers. There was also a life policy on him where she was the beneficiary

EmeraldIsle100 · 13/08/2017 15:44

They are appealing the outcome. One thing I find weird is why were the children's statements alleging violence against their step mother at the hands of their father not submitted to the court?

I understand that the statementsit weren't recorded under the correct procedures but their testaments indicate their step-mother was subjected to violence by her husband.

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peanut2017 · 13/08/2017 15:52

Awful case all round. Where was the mother of Molly when it was happening? I believe both in laws came over to the house and we know what the dad and daughter did but didn't see anything about the mother?

EmeraldIsle100 · 13/08/2017 16:02

She was asleep in the guest bedroom in the basement. Her husband heard a noise and went up to investigate. It seems the children didn't wake up either.

The whole thing sounds so strange. The paving brick in the bedroom sounded suspicious until it emerged that it had been painted by Molly Martens and the children for a school project.

It is so tragic.

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deadringer · 13/08/2017 16:06

What I don't understand is as a former fbi agent of over 30 years why the hell didn't the dad cover up the crime better or get a hit man to do the job. Strange case.

Gingernaut · 13/08/2017 16:06

www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/revealed-why-molly-really-murdered-husband-36024813.html

First article that presented itself after I Googled. Sad

StillDrivingMeBonkers · 13/08/2017 16:07

(A) who are the Martens
(B) what's the AIBU ?

EmeraldIsle100 · 13/08/2017 16:18

The Martens are the parents in law of an Irish man who was murdered in his home America. His wife and his father in law were jailed for his murder.

AIBU stands for Am I Being Unreasonable.

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ElspethFlashman · 13/08/2017 16:22

Well a jury found them guilty so yes.

In fairness it's not like he bludgeoned himself to death, is it?

The use of force was so excessive that when the paramedic picked up Jason, his head dissolved in his hands. One of the jurors vomited at the photos.

The way the Martens have been over social media has been disgusting. The constant harassing of his kids. They sent the bill for the ambulance to his parents. They moved the body from funeral home to funeral home so Jason's family over from Ireland couldn't find the funeral.

They are sick sick people.

steff13 · 13/08/2017 16:24

I was just reading up on this. It seems like the jury made the right decision based on what I've read.

Happytobefree17 · 13/08/2017 16:24

I think StillDriving was asking what is your AIBU, not what does it stand for!

honeyrider · 13/08/2017 16:25

The judge wouldn't allow the statements made by the children because the professionals believed they were coached. They're guilty as sin and it was premeditated.

Molly's own lawyer spoke on national radio here in Ireland when they were arrested that she sought legal advice about getting custody of the children 2 years prior to his murder and she was more or less told she hadn't a hope unless she could prove domestic violence.

His FIL hated him and had said this to colleagues a number of times over the years. Jason was concerned enough that he kept his and the children's passports at work, he refused to let her adopt them and made a will naming his sister as guardian in the case of his death.

They had no shame in blacking his name and claiming Jason was negatively involved in his first wife's death, she died of an asthma attack and her sister and Jason were present when it happened and he did everything he could to save her life. Not only that Thomas Martens claimed his first wife's father hated Jason and believed he was responsible for her death, his first FIL refuted that and had to have legal statements lodged with the court refuting it before he died.

She got sleeping tablets 3 days before he died, they were found in his system. It's only a pity the children weren't tested at the time to see if they were drugged as they were in a very deep sleep when the police had to wake them despite all the noise from what happened and all the sirens and commotion.

Jason's son has given a completely different version than the coached version.

EachandEveryone · 13/08/2017 16:30

Have the children gone back over to ireland?

Bardo · 13/08/2017 16:31

Absolutely. Guilty as sin

I have some sympathy for the place Molly was in before Jason was killed. She was going to lose the children she loved but had no rights over. But that aside, whether he was the saint his family believe him to be or not it is clear that she and her father murdered Jason Corbett. His skull was in bits.

honeyrider · 13/08/2017 16:32

Yes, his family in Ireland had to go to court to get access and take them back to Ireland, Molly wouldn't even let his family see the children after she murdered Jason.

Bardo · 13/08/2017 16:36

Elspeth Flashman, I agree, they, The Martens, had obviously existed in a very entitled FBI-bubble. They believed that they had the power to create their own truth after they killed him.

I think that the children's statements weren't submitted because it could be argued that they were coached.

Whether there was domestic abuse or not and I don't think he was an abuser per se but i could believe that their fights had got nasty, she could have just moved out and gone to her fathers. It's not like they were living in Ireland and she was the one with nowhere to go. So like Elspeth says, it's not like he crushed up sleeping tablets and ingested them willingly and then bludgeoned himself to death - so yes, they are so so guilty.

honeyrider · 13/08/2017 16:43

There are witnesses who have said she was abusive to Jason in front of them, calling him names, humiliating him etc the night before they murdered him.

EmeraldIsle100 · 13/08/2017 17:10

Apols for posting in AIBU mistakenly.

Thanks for further information. It's amazing that an FBI agent left such a sloppy crime scene. I couldn't believe they had no blood on their hands. Why would you pretend to have done CPR and have no blood on your hands?

The children are extremely fortunate to have a loving family to take care of them.

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HughLauriesStubble · 13/08/2017 17:16

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ElspethFlashman · 13/08/2017 17:30

Oh and she told people prior to the murder that she had "reconnected" with an old boyfriend over FB and didn't give a shit about her marriage anymore.

She wanted his daughter and she wanted his money. Poor man.

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