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Hereforinfo · 08/08/2017 16:26

Hi all welcome to the most intriguing article you may ever read and yes everything that is written is the complete truth as I have the evidence captured on my iPad, so here goes we have moved in to a property and have had to listen to x y shouting and smacking kids, my ds has even witnessed it, we then find out that we have been reported to children's services which was obviously malicious, so on phone I explained everything up to that point that was happening, and I then followed that up with a call to the nspcc, which then i don't know what happened following that yes you guessed it police knocking on our door insisting our children were in danger which they weren't. We obviously know that at this point it's our neighbour reporting us, to which I then just carry on I am recording everything that we hear inside our own lounge, the more I record the more I notice the threats towards the kids example, if you don't stop crying I will give you something to cry for😱 Furthermore we have reported it to the police who have been no help whatsoever the council and our local children's services who say get ready they have to witness it 😱 So you ask what about polic why haven't they helped well it seems that idiot neighbour is mirroring everything I say and when I went to the police station I end up with a community protection notice warning which I obviously got overturned, we are stuck the more evidence I get the more no one wants to know, would I be within my rights to out these recordings of mine as they are under no court restrictions at present you know evoke article 10 of my human rights freedom of speech? We really don't know what to do because everything they do at present is surrounded by music and making our life hell we phone local authorities who won't come out and witness it moreover we had local authority recording equipment which captured everything from noise to the abuse and no one is taking any action, if anyone can offer any guidance it really would be appreciated, we also have triggered a case review but am unsure how this is going to help. We have tried everything but it seems to be having a detrimental effect on my household 3 of my children have disabilities who need constant care and attention but all we are doing is banging our heads against the wall by trying to rectify problems that shouldn't be down to us should it? #savethekids#sickofnoise#crappyneighbours. Thank you all who read this oh and forgot to add this has been going on for over a year😱

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Chocolatteandbiscuits · 08/08/2017 17:41

I second pacific try and report this to the press. Maybe not name and shame but say SS don't want to help, the police don't or Council. I'm quite sure they wouldn't want themselves painted badly! And I bet then someone will help!

Hereforinfo · 08/08/2017 17:44

I don't know how to approach the press.
I have asked the press in an email whether I can out my recordings on say Facebook, but never got a response.
If I went to the press the whole story is then a bit outy if that makes sense.

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Hereforinfo · 08/08/2017 17:46

chocolate I also can't go to the press about police, I have numerous complaints being handled by the professional standards department.

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BootsWithDresses · 08/08/2017 17:51

The press won't care. Sorry but what exactly do you want from all of this?

It's hardly Watergate.

Viviennemary · 08/08/2017 17:51

Is this right. Your post is quite hard to understand.

  1. Neighbours are making a huge noise and smacking their kids
  1. They have reported you to Social Services.
  1. Nobody is listening to you. Neither police, Local Authority or SS

Try your MP or other suggestions from posters. Like the press. If anything serious happens it will be the usual hand wringing and lessons learned. Nobody wants that. How bad exactly is this noise?

OlennasWimple · 08/08/2017 17:51

First step: complaint to council department who were supposed to help with the equipment

Second step: send a copy of your complaint to your local councillor plus the council cabinet member with responsibility for this area plus childrens' services

Third step: continue to keep your own records of what is happening, in case you get further false allegations

Fourth step: depending on the response from your contact with your councillor, escalate to your MP

Fifth: ignore posters on here whose only contribution is to claim that they cannot possibly understand what you are saying because you haven't used a full stop Hmm

PutThatPomBearBack · 08/08/2017 17:52

MARTIN.JD FORGOT TO SIGN HIS NAME!!!!

misses point of thread

PacificDogwod · 08/08/2017 17:52

You can use the threat of going to the press to encourage the council/SS in to action.
Make an official complaint about the letter not being sent first though.

Bunnyfuller · 08/08/2017 17:55

No laws have been broken so it isn't a police matter. Yes they're shouting at the children, I'm afraid lots of parents do. Bad parenting happens everywhere but nothing you've said sounds like the children are at risk (if ss are involved then hopefully they're already monitoring anyway).

For recordings to be used in any evidential process the 'offender' must be warned they are being recorded, that's the law.

If they're as bad as you say then definitely go back to the beginning, and you can ensure the letter is sent.

If you ring everyone ranting then the perception of you will be affected by that. Stop phoning anyone you can think of and follow the process you have been advised to. If authorities believed every allegation made in neighbourhood disputes prisons would be even fuller than they are!

MadMags · 08/08/2017 17:57

I genuinely couldn't make head nor tail of the first post, not trying to be an arse.

Anyway, OP it might be worth your while to speak to citizens advice (I'm assuming you have that in the UK) and even your local MP.

Hereforinfo · 08/08/2017 17:59

The noise at its peak is unbearable, it can start from say 6am onwards, screaming, shouting, banging on adjacent walls the kids asking if they can also do it, and he gives them permission to do it, music and diy at silly o'clock.

It's not only that it's threats towards them kids to smack them and I have this recorded.

I need advice as every avenue I pursue we keep getting knocked back 20 steps.

Neighbour is able to use a false name with police and gets away with it.

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VladmirsPoutine · 08/08/2017 18:03

MartinJD

You sound like a twat.

Cheers. Best regards,

V.Poutine

Buttercunt · 08/08/2017 18:03

Does your iPad have a full stop button?

Unfortunately yours appears to have a charger.

Hereforinfo · 08/08/2017 18:12

Moving is not the easiest of options and definitely not the quickest.

Thank you for some fresh ideas I will start looking at some of these in the morning.

I appreciate you taking the time to respond.

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MadMags · 08/08/2017 18:20

Don't you have to declare a neighbour dispute when you want to move, anyway?

I really hope someone listens, here.

Bunnyfuller · 08/08/2017 18:49

You cannot get away with using a false name with the police for long, here. Voters, PNC, council tax and many others contain the information which is referenced as a standard when investigating a complaint. I'm a little confused as to how you know what your NDN told the police re names etc. The police certainly wouldn't give the complainant this information.

What are your complaints to PSD about? In relation to this family or other incidents?

Hereforinfo · 08/08/2017 19:13

The police didn't give me his name, they freely mention it when I have been contacted by them, it's a false name as I have evidence to prove otherwise.

I am not allowed to give information regarding my complaints as one is subject to court action.

Furthermore when I was issued my community protection notice warning it had this false name printed on it.

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harrypotternerd · 08/08/2017 19:21

they won't get away with false names for long if UK is anything like Australia. My ex has been charged with giving false names to police about five times although he is rather stupid and not smart enough to get away with anything

SomeOtherFuckers · 08/08/2017 19:41

I'm not going to lie OP ... you sound a bit off.
Also 'if you don't stop crying then I'll give you something to cry about' is an incredibly common turn of phrase and my mum used it in my 100% non abusive childhood ... are you definite that you have heard the actual abuse and not just idle threats?
The police and SS, though mistakes are sometimes made, are not stupid nor without protocol ...

Hereforinfo · 08/08/2017 19:50

It does go deeper than just these idle threats, but I'm a bit reluctant to say much more as it can be a bit outing.

The police again can't go into too much detail, haven't been any help, other than to say that yes this is said neighbours voice on recording.

The ss have said they have to witness it first hand?

We have had major failings we have done everything by the letter, but we are completely frustrated by the lack help.

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PacificDogwod · 08/08/2017 19:52

How would using a false name be in any shape or form helpful?? Confused

Are other neighbours affected by the noise?
Could somebody else make a report/complain?

Hereforinfo · 08/08/2017 19:57

pacific I have no idea how using a false name is helpful, I can't quite figure that out.

We are the only house attached, another nearby house is empty so it's not helpful that we have no one to verify, so we are on our own.

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